Robert Gaskill UPDATED
From River Forest, Illinois, adoptive and foster parent Robert L. Gaskill, 63, was charged on Friday, February 3, 2012 with sexual abuse of two girls. He has been foster parent to about 75 children, most with disabilities. “In 2009, the Gaskills had 12 children, four biological, six adopted and two in foster care.”
He “was ordered held Saturday in lieu of $50 million full cash bond by Judge Gregory P. Vasquez.
In bond court Saturday, prosecutors said Gaskill sexually abused two adolescent girls over a period from 1996 to 2009.
He is scheduled to be arraigned at 9 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 9, at the Maybrook Courthouse in Maywood. Sources said the case is expected to go to a grand jury for possible formal indictment.
A River Forest detective assisted by members of the WEDGE task force arrested Gaskill at his home Thursday. On Friday the Cook County State’s Attorney approved two counts of predatory criminal sexual assault, which is a Class X felony.
Gaskill and his wife have operated a foster care service in their large three-story frame home on Ashland Avenue, and a foster care support system called Tapestry Chicago. He also served on the board of the River Forest Youth Soccer program and was a program coordinator in the late 1990s.
Gaskill currently works as the marketing director at Lydia Home in Chicago, a residential facility for abused children. He previously worked for Mercy Home for Boys and Girls in Chicago.
Gaskill is also a former publisher of the Oak Leaves/Pioneer Press West Group, where he worked for 16 years until the mid 1980s. Following that, he was the president and publisher of Chicago Catholic Publications, which publishes the Chicago Archdiocese’s official newspaper, the New World.
Gaskill was not currently an employee of the Catholic New World or New World Publications, Archdiocese of Chicago spokeswoman Susan Burritt said Saturday. She did not immediately have any information on when he had served as publisher for Chicago Catholic Publications.
In a 2009 interview with the Forest Leaves, Gaskill said he and his wife had “been opening their home to foster children for about 15 years.” Many of them had disabilities of some kind.”
One-Time Religious Publisher, Foster Parent Charged With Sex Abuse Of Two Girls
[CBS Chicago 2/4/12]
River Forest foster parent charged with sexual abuse
[Sun Times 2/4/12 by Bill Dwyer]
REFORM Puzzle Piece
Another sick case where there was no accountability before, during or after placements.
Update: “The large home on Ashland Avenue is surrounded by a white picket fence, the only fenced-in yard on the block. Curtains and makeshift drapes cover all of the home’s windows. A pan of baked goods and a note from a well-wisher remain on the front porch.
Neighbors say it’s a startling contrast to the usual daily activity at the home in the 600 block of Ashland Avenue, typically filled with children playing and friends of the well-known Gaskill family dropping by.
But since shocking allegations of sexual abuse surfaced over the weekend, the three-story home has been empty.
“I have always, always loved children, and for me, it’s the innocence of them and the need for close adult mentoring and modeling and advocating and love in this busy crazy world,” Mary Gaskill told Wednesday Journal in a 2009 story. “We know there are a lot of great foster families out there, but we also know there are a lot of things that are real messy in the world, so we do whatever we can, in big and small ways.”
Investigators say the case began to unfold late last month, when the two women walked into the River Forest police station to file their report, which alleged a pattern of sexual abuse from 1996 to 2009. Authorities would not release the current ages of the alleged victims, or say how old they were when the alleged abuse began.
On Thursday, officers arrested Gaskill at his River Forest home. Neighbors say the news stunned the idyllic neighborhood, situated just up the block from St. Luke Parish School.
“If it’s true, it’s tragic for everyone involved,” said Jim August, Gaskill’s next-door neighbor for more than 20 years. “I hope the family has the strength and faith to see them through this.”
A spokesman for state’s Department of Children and Family Services said three adopted children and two foster children living in the River Forest home were removed and placed into other homes.
The charges have sent shockwaves through the foster care community. David Anderson, executive director of the child welfare agency LYDIA Home Association, where Gaskill began work as a part-time marketing director in May 2011, said the organization was “deeply saddened” to learn of the charges.
“Our hearts go out to the alleged victims and the Gaskill family,” he said.
The Gaskills also co-founded Tapestry Chicago, a foster care support service that helps guide potential foster parents through the adoption process.The Tapestry Chicago website does not list a phone number. An email to the agency and phone calls to members of “The Tapestry Team,” which includes a medical consultant and a pediatrician with a “special interest in evaluating child abuse,” were not immediately returned.
On Monday, police remained tight-lipped about the investigation, except to say they’re working with DCFS and that no other victims had come forward.
“I know we’re going to continue to investigate. Where that takes us, I’m not sure,” Police Chief Gregory Weiss said. “I’m hoping for the sake of victims that it’s limited. But when there is up to 75 children that might be involved, who knows where it might end up.”
Investigation Continues Into Sex Abuse Allegations
[Oak Park Patch 2/6/12 by Casey Cora]
Update 2: The victims’ ages and gender are revealed.
“The Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office approved two Class X felony charges against Gaskill. The charge is predatory criminal sexual assault against a child. The incidents allegedly occurred between 1996 and 2009, according to a statement from River Forest police.
River Forest Police Sgt. Marty Grill said the female victims are now 19 and 21 and do not reside in River Forest. Three adopted children and two foster children who had recently been in the Gaskill home have now been removed and shifted to other homes, said Department of Children and Family Services spokesman Kendall Marlowe. Deputy Police Chief Craig Rutz said the alleged victims had not been taken from the home but could not say whether or not they lived there previously.
Gaskill voluntarily accompanied local police and officials from the West Suburban Enhanced Drug and Gang Enforcement (WEDGE) Task Force from his home to the police station, where he was arrested. Rutz could not say if Gaskill made any statements to police at that time. Bond was set at $50 million during a bond hearing Saturday at the Maybrook courthouse. Gaskill will face a preliminary hearing on Feb. 9.
“It took us quite a while to figure out whether this was completely valid or not,” said Rutz, noting that the victims came to the police station to report the incidents a couple of weeks ago, but he could not give details about their relationships to Gaskill because of the ongoing investigation.
In addition to his department, Rutz said the Cook County Sheriff’s Department, WEDGE, and DCFS are involved in the investigation.”
“In 2009 Wednesday Journal named the couple Villager of the Year runners-up in recognition of their work as foster parents. At that time, the Journal reported that the family had 11 children: four biological, six adopted and one foster. [Another award-winning foster parent in our archive.]
The recognition followed a feature story in the Journal about the relationship between two of the foster children in the Gaskill home. A teenage son with autism had sponsored a fundraising run to raise awareness for a life-threatening illness which afflicted his 3-year-old foster sister. That young girl died a few months after the story ran in the Journal.
In the Journal’s 2009 article, Mary Gaskill talked about the pledge she and her husband made shortly after their marriage that they would open their home to foster children.
“I have always, always loved children,” she said, “and for me, it’s the innocence of them and the need for close adult mentoring and modeling and advocating and love in this busy, crazy world.”
State removes foster and adopted kids from River Forest home in wake of abuse charges
[Wednesday Journal 2/7/12 by Devin Rose]
Update 3/Hat tip to our commenter below:
“A River Forest foster dad will face a direct indictment on sexual assault charges when he returns to court later this month. That action was set by a judge at a preliminary hearing Thursday[February 9, 2012] morning.”
“Wise did not grant a request made by Seago that Gaskill be taken to a hospital for blood work due to potential prostate cancer and high cholesterol. Wise said he needed to see something in writing that a doctor had ordered the work. Gaskill has already been given medication for his blood pressure, Seago said. The cancer has not been diagnosed.
Seago also requested that someone bring Gaskill his Bible and glasses. Wise entered an order that will be left up to the Cook County Jail to decide. Gaskill is currently being held there on $50 million bail.
The case will be taken before a grand jury when Gaskill is back in court Feb. 24.
Police have said two women, ages 19 and 21, came to the River Forest police station last month and said Gaskill sexually assaulted them as juveniles between 1996 and 2009. The women no longer live in River Forest, and police can’t confirm whether they previously lived in the Gaskill home. Gaskill was arrested Feb. 2.”
River Forest foster dad to be indicted Feb. 24
[Wednesday Journal 2/9/12 by Devin Rose]
“In a show of solidarity and support, dozens of Robert Gaskill’s friends and family stood silently as he entered a Cook County courtroom on Thursday. A bailiff sternly ordered them to sit back down.
Gaskill mouthed the words “I love you” to the gathered crowd before facing judge William Wise at a preliminary hearing at the Maybrook courthouse. ”
Supporters Pack Courtroom for Gaskill Hearing
[Oak Park Patch 2/9/12 by Casey Cora]
Update 4: “River Forest foster parent and former publishing executive Robert Gaskill has been formally indicted on felony sexual abuse charges.
Gaskill, 63, appeared in Cook County court before Judge Geary Kull Friday morning. The two criminal complaints filed against Gaskill were superseded by the indictments, prosecutors said.
Gaskill is charged with two felony counts of predatory sexual assault against a child after allegations surfaced earlier this month that he’d abused two young girls in his care for more than a decade. He’s currently being held in protective custody at the Cook County Jail.
At Friday’s hearing, defense attorney Kelly Seago withdrew as Gaskill’s counsel and was replaced by attorney Ellen Domph, who indicated she would be filing a motion to reduce the extraordinarily high $50 million cash bond attached to Gaskill’s Feb. 2 arrest.
As they did in a previous hearing, Gaskill’s friends and family packed the courtroom in a show of support and rose from their seats to show support as Gaskill, clad in a yellow jail jumpsuit, entered the courtroom. Again, bailiffs quickly ordered them to sit down.
Gaskill is scheduled to appear for an arraignment before Judge Noreen Love on March 16.”
Gaskill Indicted on Felony Sex Abuse Charges
[Oak Park Patch 2/24/12 by Casey Cora]
“Details were not made available from the Cook County State’s Attorney because indictments were “red flagged.”
Foster parent indicted; lawyer seeks reduced bond
[River Forest edition of Sun Times 2/24/12 by Bill Dwyer of Pioneer Local]
Update 5: More details and a hearing today allowing Robert out on bail, no contact with minors AND the article claims that there was a confession.
“A $50 million cash bond was reduced for a River Forest foster parent accused of sexually abusing two girls, and details of the 16-count indictment against him were revealed in court Friday.
Accused foster parent free after bond lowered
[Forest Leaves 3/16/12 by Bill O’Dwyer]
Update 6: Thanks to our readers for getting the case in the news again. Rally did contact this journalist weeks ago and is glad that the case is being spotlighted ahead of the next court date!
“A blog dedicated to child welfare has become a forum for anonymous River Forest residents to weigh in on the case of Robert Gaskill.”
“As the case has unfolded, an activist website called REFORM (Rally Ethics for Orphans an At-Risk Minors) Talk has become the de facto forum for community discussion. The blog acts as part message board, part resource agency (it’s MO: “We are on the side of justice and to give voice to the voiceless and powerless, and in this case it means the CHILDREN”) and occasionally highlights troubling cases across the country.
The page on the Gaskill case, originally a collection of local news stories and updates, has exploded with anonymous comments, many from people claiming to be River Forest residents, former family friends of the Gaskills or members of their church.
The authenticity of those claims is nearly impossible to determine: not a single person has put a real name to a comment.
But the discussions are specific and detailed, with some posters maintaining they’ve been to the Gaskill house for parties, that they’ve bumped into the family at the River Forest Tennis Club or were once members of the family’s “inner circle.”
Many have claimed the Gaskills verbally and emotionally abused the two girls who’ve come forward with the allegations. Some commenters are expressing regret that they didn’t speak out against what they saw.
“We are remembering a home in which we saw mistreatment of the adopted/foster children in our presence by our very eyes,” one writer said.
Says another: “I was once in the inner circle and was often confused by much of what I witnessed. It took awhile to wise up and make the decision to pull away, a tricky dance as there were relationships built between the children, as well as the reality of the family’s widespread involvement and influence in the church we attended.”
Commenters on the forum are pledging to write letters of support for the alleged victims and urging residents to contact police and state child welfare agencies about what they’ve seen.
The comments on the forum may be a reaction to the support for Gaskill shown by his family, friends and church members. During earlier hearings they packed the court room in a show of unity and solidarity.
River Forest Police Department Chief Gregory Weiss said he hadn’t heard of the website, and said he wasn’t aware of any letters that had been written on behalf of, or in support of, the victims.
“What we’d do with those letters, if they’re of evidentiary value, we’d have to give them to the State’s Attorney’s Office as part of their evidence,” Weiss said. “But saying ‘I feel bad’ or ‘I feel guilty’ or that ‘I should’ve recognized the signs’ isn’t of evidentiary value.”
During an arraignment hearing at the Maybrook courthouse in March, prosecutors laid out their charges, including allegations that Gaskill’s drinking led to inappropriate kissing, touching and “digital penetration” of the girls, and that they were forced to indulge his biting fetish.”
“Prosecutors also said Gaskill confessed to the abuse after his Feb. 2 arrest.
Gaskill’s new attorney Ellen Domph, the defense attorney who replaced lawyer Kelly Seago after she withdrew as Gaskill’s counsel, attempted to clarify that by saying a written confession does not exist. Calls to Domph seeking comment for this story were not returned.
Gaskill requested to be kept in protective custody at the Cook County jail, where he was held after his Feb. 2 arrest. After coming up with the $25,000 bond, his March 17 release from jail came with stipulations: He’s under electronic monitoring at an undiclosed location and will only be allowed to visit his doctor and his church. He’s been ordered to keep away from minors.
The state’s Department of Children and Family Services in February said three adopted children and two foster children living in the River Forest home were removed and placed into other homes.”
Community Reacts to Lower Bond and Freedom in Child Molestation Case
[Oak Park Patch 4/12/12 by Casey Cora]
I want to point out that this article states that Robert REQUESTED to be in protective custody. There have been commenters that are Pro-Gaskill that lamented that he was in jail.
Update 7: We wanted to add a few more related items to this case. First, the Illinois DCFS was put on probation on January 11, 2012 for an unknown period of time by the accrediting body Council on Accreditation (COA). See the link here.
Mary was working as a Church & Community Relations Manager for Lydia Home coordinating the Urban word-study program for high school students. See here.
Tapestry Chicago did have a website, but it is now defunct. This loose organization does not appear to have been licensed by the state of Illinois. Parts of the website can be seen on the Wayback Machine.
From the Wayback Machine:
” Tapestry Chicago exists to support people considering adoption and foster care through education, sharing, and personal experience.
Tapestry Chicago is a community of families and individuals that are connected by our passion and interest for adoption and foster care. We are couples and singles alike who feel called to open our hearts to children in need; we are families with children who look like their parents and families with children who do not; we are those who are in the waiting process; we are those trying to decide if adoption is right for our families. We are those contemplating sharing our lives with children in foster care. In the end, we all are weaving our lives by the common passion for children and family. We believe that God is doing something truly remarkable among us as He forms families and transforms lives through the miracle of each child.
We encourage you to start the process by sharing your concerns and questions. Our Tapestry Chicago community will walk beside you by sharing their knowledge and experiences.”
” About Tapestry Chicago
Tap-es-try [tap-uh-stree] n. – a fabric woven together by hand to produce a rich and complex design, often consisting of multi-colored threads
Our purpose is to help children and families as they travel the adoption or foster care journey. It is a road some of us have traveled before and continue to traverse today. While all who have been touched by the miracle of adoption share a common bond, each journey is unique and presents its own joys and challenges. As a result, we seek to come alongside adoptive and foster families, as well as those who are considering or are in the process of adopting or becoming licensed. We are ready to connect, encourage, inform, and equip fellow travelers on their unique adoption or foster care journey. Moreover, Tapestry Chicago stands ready to resource children and families in foster care so that their experience can be all that it can be.”
” Connect, Encourage, Inform, & Equip
Tapestry Chicago provides a loving, supportive and authentic community that encourages families along their adoption journey. It has been our experience that communities such as ours are a unique resource at each stage in the adoption or foster process, and are particularly valuable to families during the difficult times. For those families we offer our prayers, our love and support, our friendship and the collective wisdom and insight of those who have already successfully navigated similar paths.
We also provide quality, objective information about adoption and foster care. This includes honest and accurate information about the adoption and foster care process and a realistic understanding of both the joys and challenges adoptive and foster families often face. We focus specifically on helping those who are considering adoption or foster care to make informed decisions based on facts and realities, rather than idealized notions. Recognizing that in many ways the journey has only begun when a child is welcomed into a family, we also provide effective information and educational resources as well as support and encouragement for adoptive families to help them as they continue along their journey.”
Lastly, there is one active link on the Wayback Machine for their website. It is a foster parent meetup group. We do not know if the Gaskills participated in this group or if any of these members were there to support the Gaskills at the initial hearings. ” Oak Park/River Forest Area Foster and Adoptive Family Meetup”
Update 8: “A judge agreed on Thursday to modify the monitoring conditions for a River Forest foster dad accused of sexual assault so he could let visitors into his apartment, do laundry and attend his daughter’s college graduation in June.
Judge Noreen Love told attorney Ellen Domph that she would “absolutely” draft a court order so that Domph’s client, Robert Gaskill, could attend his daughter’s June 9 graduation from DePaul University. Love said the order would be specific on the location and time of the event.
During the status hearing at Maybrook courthouse, Gaskill, 64, stood in front of Love in an orange button-down shirt, dark jacket and khaki pants. He’s been out of jail on electronic monitoring for about 40 days, Domph told Love.
“I do not think he’s a danger or a flight risk,” she said.
Gaskill pleaded not guilty last month to charges of predatory criminal sexual assault of a child. The charges came after two women, now 19 and 21, told River Forest police in January that Gaskill sexually assaulted them when one was between 12 and 17 years old and the other was between 6 and 9.
Gaskill and his wife, Mary, had operated a foster care service out of theirAshland Avenuehome since 1992.
Domph also asked Love to modify Gaskill’s monitoring conditions so he would be able to go to the second-floor laundry room and buzz people into the apartment where he is now living. Love said she would draft a court order.
Another status hearing on the case will be held at 9:30 a.m. on June 19.”
Gaskill can attend daughter’s graduation, judge says
[Oak Park.com/Wednesday Journal 4/26/12 by Devin Rose]
“A one-time newspaper publisher, Gaskill was at the helm of Oak Leaves/Pioneer Press West Group and later served as the president and publisher of the Archdiocese of Chicago’s newspaper The Catholic New World. More recently, he’s worked as a part-time marketing director for the LYDIA Home Association, a child welfare agency.
The Gaskills also co-founded Tapestry Chicago, a foster care support service that helps guide potential foster parents through the adoption process.
In 2009, the Gaskills were named runners-up in Wednesday Journal’s Villagers of the Year awards for being “resources to the foster care system as parents, they’ve become go-to members of the community as coaches in foster care and adoption.”
During an arraignment hearing in March, prosecutors laid out their charges, including allegations that Gaskill’s drinking led to inappropriate kissing, touching and “digital penetration” of the girls, and that they were forced to indulge his biting fetish.
On Thursday, Gaskill appeared in court clean-shaven and dressed in khaki slacks, blue blazer and peach colored shirt, cutting a more distinguished figure than the haggard, unshorn inmate who appeared in previous court proceedings. And once again, his family and supporters turned out to the hearing in a show of solidarity.
But the hearing also brought a new crowd to the cramped courtroom — supporters of the alleged victims.”
“A spokesman for the state’s Department of Children and Family Services told Patch that of the five children originally removed from the Gaskill’s River Forest home back in February, three adopted children have been placed back in the home and two foster children were placed elsewhere.”
[We have seen this bizarre split of placing some children back into the home and some removed before. We still call upon investigators to screen all previous children in the home and to look into the role Mary Gaskill played in these allegations.]
Judge: Gaskill Can Attend Graduation
[Oak Park Patch 4/26/12 by Casey Cora]
Update 9: There was a status hearing on Monday, July 2, 2012. “Gaskill was in court for Monday’s brief hearing, surrounded by family and friends. He remains out on bond throughout the proceedings.
Attorneys from neither side would comment after the end of the hearing; there is no indication when a trial date will be set.”
The next status hearing is set for August 29, 2012. He still is out on bond with electronic monitoring.
Another Status Hearing Set for Robert Gaskill
[Oak Park Patch 7/3/12 by Deborah Kadin]
Update 10: The status hearing occured on August 29, 2012. Robert’s attorney asked for him to be relieved of electronic monitoring. The judge ruled that Robert “will not be let off of electronic monitoring.”
Robert’s attorney “Domph said it seemed like a waste of time for a judge to have to approve every request for Gaskill to be able to go somewhere, like the dentist. He is currently living in an apartment with his brother-in-law in Oak Park, Domph said.
[Judge] Love said there is “no doubt” the system is difficult, but that she didn’t mind the requests. She said she would not take Gaskill off of electronic monitoring.
Gaskill, who stood next to Domph in a navy blue suit and a tie, did not speak. A group of his relatives and supporters, who have been present at his previous hearings, sat in the back row of the courtroom.
Assistant State’s Attorney Michelle Papa told Love that the discovery process of the case was finished. Love scheduled another status hearing on Oct. 2.”
Gaskill to stay on electronic monitoring while living in Oak Park
[Wednesday Journal Oak Park.com 8/29/12 by Devin Rose]
Update 11: Robert Gaskill will not be present at the final deposition.
“Assistant State’s Attorney Michelle Papa asked Judge Noreen Love for the modification at a status hearing for Robert Gaskill, 64, Monday morning at the Maybrook Courthouse. Papa said victims should not be in close proximity to a defendant.
Gaskill was arrested in February after two women told River Forest police that he sexually assaulted them when they were children. He and his wife, Mary, had operated a foster care service out of their Ashland Avenue home since 1992.
Gaskill’s attorney, Ellen Domph, argued that he’s been present at four of five depositions with victims so far, where he’s sat quietly to the side in a conference room. She said her client is a quiet person and she didn’t file a motion ordering no contact because there had not been any. Domph said it’s been a “very professional proceeding” and “pretty smooth sailing.”
But Papa said the deposition room is small and one of the victims was sobbing at the table. She mentioned the Crime Victims’ Rights Act, which gives a victim the right to be reasonably protected from the accused.
Love said that knowing the defendant is present can be just as intimidating as if the two could see each other.
“He should not be in a location where he can be seen by the complainant,” Love said.
The case was continued to a status hearing on Dec. 19.”
Judge says Gaskill won’t be present at final deposition
[Wednesday Journal Oak Park.com 11/6/12 by Devin Rose]
Update 12: February 22, 2013 is next status hearing.
“The judge presiding over the case of a former River Forest foster father who is now facing sexual assault charges said Monday she would sign an order asking for modifications to what his lawyer said were harassing visits from the Cook County Sheriff’s Office.
Citing a log of visits since the end of November, Ellen Domph told Judge Noreen Love that her client, Robert Gaskill, has been visited by representatives from the sheriff’s office at his apartment or at work during mostly reasonable hours. But between Jan. 9 and Jan. 13, Gaskill received at least 10 sheriff’s visits, including several past 2 a.m.
“It has now gone into a level of harassment,” Domph said.
Gaskill, 64, was arrested last February after two women told River Forest police that he sexually assaulted them when one was between 12 and 17 years old and the other between the ages of 6 and 9. He pleaded not guilty in March to charges of predatory criminal sexual assault of a child.
Gaskill and his wife, Mary, had operated a foster care service out of their Ashland Avenue home since 1992.
At the hearing Monday morning at the Maybrook courthouse, Gaskill stood silent next to Domph in a dark suit and an orange tie. A group of his family members and supporters sat in the first two rows of the courtroom.
Domph said the aggressive nature of the sheriff’s visits have created an unreasonable situation for her client. She’s concerned that sleep interruptions will affect his health, and that he might lose his job or apartment. She asked Love again to release Gaskill from electronic monitoring, which he has been on for 10 months.
Domph said Gaskill was face to face with one of his accusers during resolution of a separate matter in the case, which took place at an earlier date, and she said there was never an incident. Domph called it a trial, but Wednesday Journal learned from a source close to the case that no criminal trial has yet been held. The resolution Domph mentioned would have been a civil matter, the source said.
Assistant State’s Attorney Michelle Papa argued Gaskill has been given many opportunities that others in his situation have not gotten. Love had previously lowered his bond from $50 million to $250,000 on the condition he stay on electronic monitoring. She has also modified the monitoring so that Gaskill could buzz visitors into his apartment, do laundry and attend doctor’s appointments.
“It would be a mistake,” Papa said, to take Gaskill off of electronic monitoring.
Love denied Domph’s motion, saying she has made modifications on almost every one of his court dates.
“I am not going to continue to modify,” Love said. Though she agreed to sign an order limiting the sheriff’s visits, Love said she can’t tell their office how to control its operation.
Domph also filed a motion for disciplinary records of officers involved in the case.”
Gaskill’s lawyer says sheriff’s visits are harassing
[Wednesday Journal Oak Park.com 1/15/13 by Devin Rose]
Update 13: The next hearing is March 19, 2013.
Gaskill’s defense at the February 22, 2013 hearing centered around blaming the police.
“An attorney representing Robert Gaskill hopes that personnel records from River Forest police investigators will help their case.
Gaskill, 64, was arrested last year on allegations that he sexually assaulted two juveniles who were living as foster children in his River Forest home over a 13-year period.
The victims, both female, were between the ages of 12 and 17 years old over the course of the alleged abuse. Gaskill pleaded not guilty to charges of predatory criminal sexual assault of a child in March 2012.
The former publishing executive and his wife have acted as guardians for 75 foster children since 1992.
Gaskill and his lawyer, Ellen Domph, appeared before Cook County Circuit Court Judge Noreen Love on Feb. 22. At the brief hearing, held at the Maybrook courthouse, Love allowed a continuance of the case to March, pending the resolution of a court-ordered subpoena seeking personnel records of members of the River Forest Police Department.
Filed in October, the subpoena requests all documentation of citizens’ complaints filed with the police department over the past decade pertaining to officials who have participated in the Gaskill investigation. Records sought include reprimands, performance evaluations, suspensions and use of excessive force allegations.
The plea includes records for River Forest Detective Sgt. Marty Grill, Officer Anthony Pluto — both of who whom were involved in pre-arraignment interviews with the defendant — and Officer Jennifer Casey.
Domph stated that the police department has ignored the subpoena and failed to provide a reason why the request should be denied under Illinois law. Casey and two other officers were recently cleared on charges of excessive force related to a 2009 disturbance call.
Following Friday’s hearing, Domph declined to comment on the outstanding subpoena, stating that the issue was “nothing new.”
Gaskill, who was accompanied by friends and family at the hearing, is the former publisher of the West Group of Pioneer Press newspapers, which includes the Oak Leaves and Forest Leaves.
The defendant was released on bail in March and is currently subject to electronic monitoring — a provision which Domph has contested on the grounds that her client is not a flight risk.
Love on Feb. 22 said she would be ready to hear arguments at the next hearing, which is set for March 19.”
Gaskill trial waits on subpoena in River Forest
[Wednesday Journal Oak Park.com 2/26/13 by Devin Rose and Ian Fullerton]
Update 14: Our commenters continue to support the victims at the courthouse. March 19 had a continuance to April 11. Hearing continued to May 1. May 1 hearing one commenter says “The judge did not allow his attorney to view the personal records of the officers involved in this case. The next court date is set for june 24” The Media is not covering these hearings.
Update 15/August 20, 2013/hat tip to two commenters
Robert Gaskill had a hearing on August 19, 2013 in which he won expanded visitation rights with his children.
“Judge Noreen Love, will allow Rob Gaskill to immediately start seeing his children more often, his attorney Ellen Domph said. She declined to give details.
Gaskill sat in the Maybrook court, surrounded by a few friends and family, during his latest court appearance. He will return to Maybrook Court on Sept. 30 when motions related to the case will be argued.”
No trial has been set.
Gaskill wins expanded child visitation rights
[Wednesday Journal 8/19/13 by Deb Kadin]
“According to an Oak Leaves report, prosecutors said Gaskill began abusing the girls at different times. One of the girls was 6 or 7 years old in 1996; the second girl was roughly 12 years old when the alleged abuse began several years later, in 2004.”
Judge Allowing Gaskill to See His Kids More Often: Report
[Oak Park Patch 8/20/13 by Charlotte Ericksen]
Update 16/January 26, 2015:“A former newspaper executive and Catholic news publisher charged with sexually abusing two young girls is scheduled to appear in court Nov. 25.
Robert Gaskill of River Forest was arrested in February of 2012 for molesting the two children. He was charged with two counts of predatory sexual assault of a child, each a Class X felony.
A Cook County judge in August signed an order allowing Gaskill to see his children more often, the Wednesday Journal reported.
According to an Oak Leaves report, prosecutors said Gaskill began abusing the girls at different times. One of the girls was 6 or 7 years old in 1996; the second girl was roughly 12 years old when the alleged abuse began several years later, in 2004.
Gaskill will return to Maybrook Court, 1500 Maybrook Dr., Rm. 105, in Maywood, on Nov. 25.”
Robert Gaskill Returns to Court Nov. 25[Oak Park Patch 11/8/13 by Charlotte Ericksen]
“The attorney for River Forest resident Robert Gaskill on Thursday filed court motions to dismiss the indictment charging him with numerous counts of aggravated child sexual abuse. With Gaskill standing by her side, attorney Ellen Domph told Judge Geary Kull she was filing the motion on grounds that Gaskill’s right to due process had been violated.
Domph filed a second motion seeking to have Gaskill’s statements to River Forest police suppressed. Judge Kull, who was sitting in for the case’s appointed trial judge, Noreen Valeria Love, continued the case until Oct. 30.
Copies of the two motions were not immediately available.”
Gaskill seeks dismissal, statement suppression[Oak Park.com 9/18/14 by Bill Dwyer]
Update 17: He was Acquitted!!!!
“A River Forest man who took in dozens of foster children and formerly headed Chicago Catholic Publications was cleared Tuesday on charges that he sexually assaulted two girls.
Robert L. Gaskill, 68, was acquitted of the molestation charges by Cook County Judge Geary W. Kull in Maywood, according to court records.
Gaskill operated a foster care service with his wife, as well as a foster care support system called Tapestry Chicago, when he was arrested in 2012.
He was a former publisher of the Oak Leaves/Pioneer Press West Group and also had served as president and publisher of Chicago Catholic Publications, which publishes the Chicago Archdiocese’s official newspaper, the New World.”
River Forest foster parent cleared of sexual assault charges
[Chicago Sun-Times 2/28/17 by Rummana Hussain]
Update 18:There is still his 2nd case!!!
“The judge who has overseen two separate sexual abuse cases against River Forest foster parent Robert Gaskill over the past three years has announced he will recuse himself should the second case go to trial.
Gaskill, 69, was arrested by River Forest police in February 2012 after two young women who had been foster children in his home filed complaints that Gaskill had sexually abused them. Last February Cook County Circuit Court Judge Geary Kull issued a directed verdict acquitting Gaskill of all charges in a 16-count criminal indictment. Gaskill remains free on $100,000 bond in a second, 25-count indictment alleging the sexual abuse of a second girl.
Following the verdict, Kull expressed concerns about his ability to be a “fair” truer of fact if Gaskill’s second case went to trial.
“I should say this: I am considering recusing myself in the charge that remains,” Kull said on Feb. 28, according to officials court transcripts. “You can argue if you want, but I don’t know that there’s an argument to be had. I pretty much made that decision anyway.
“So that we’re all clear, I expect (on the next court date) to recuse myself on that date and transfer it to another judge. You can argue it before I do that, but … .” Kull went on to say, not finishing his thought.
Asked by defense attorney Ellen Domph if he was going to offer a reason for recusal, Kull was unclear, but expressed concern that he would be unable to be “fair” in the absence of something he did not mention.
“Well, simplistically, I don’t think that I can judge the next case fairly without — based on — without — I just don’t think I can be fair on the next case,” he replied. “So that’s my reason. And I’m sure you want somebody fair.”
However, Kull, who has been a judge since 2009, backed away from recusing himself at the April 12 hearing, saying he’d decided to wait to see if the case actually went to trial.
“Rather, than do it on this date, I am going to continue it until the 8th of May to see what the actual trial posture is of all the parties. And if it becomes — if it continues to be necessary to try the matter — I will then recuse myself.”
Kull has remained on the case, and held two additional status hearings since then. The next hearing is scheduled for Aug. 21.
In issuing his verdict in February, Kull noted that the prosecution called only one witness in the case, the alleged victim, with no testimony from police investigators.
Domph has aggressively attacked the credibility of not only the victim, but also the lead investigator, then-Detective Sgt. Martin Grill. In a June, 2015 motion, Domph said his testimony was “nothing more than a restatement of an inadmissible police report,” and that he was merely repeating what was in the report, with “no actual recollections” of the interview.
Domph also pointed out that while police say Gaskill allegedly confessed to the women’s allegations, no written confession exists, and that the audio was not turned on during his interrogation.
Perhaps most damaging was the fact that Grill had received departmental discipline for removing material from another arrest report he supervised, behavior that Domph said “cut to the heart” of his credibility.
In a motion filed with the court, prosecutors asked Kull to exclude “all references to alleged external incidents of misconduct or criminal acts” by anyone on the River Forest department, as well as any media coverage of the issue, calling it “irrelevant” to the case.
Domph, though, argued that any testimony should receive “heightened judicial scrutiny,” calling it “inherently untrustworthy and unreliable.”
Judge in River Forest foster parent abuse case may recuse himself
[Cook County Chronicle 7/31/17 by Bill Dwyer]
I don't think "accountability" is the missing piece to the puzzle here. Everything "looked" perfect. I believe, if he did not admit, himself, to these crimes there would be a terrible outcry that he was wrongly accused. Thank goodness for the sake of these poor girls that he did admit guilt. I can only hope these girls are able to recover.
How do you know there was admission of guilt?
How do you know he admitted guilt?
To the Anonymous posters about guilt: We do not see an admission of guilt yet. He is arrested and held on the highest bond we have seen-$50 million. That exceeds the Cristan Room's California case of $12 million.
To Mark, you do not seem to understand what this archive is about. This is to chronicle cases of heinous or otherwise criminal actions *about CHILDREN who have been adopted or been in foster care*-the ones that have NO VOICE. We report everything we can find about the case. We do not state that Gaskill is guilty at this time as he only has been charged with crimes. If he is wholly innocent, the case STILL stays here as then the action that is disgusting is that adoptees-unnamed at this time so we can't report it- were lying about their AP molesting them.
Peruse our archive to see what the results of trials have been. An example in which the AP has been exonerated is Brian Dykstra, but that case still remains because his adopted son Isaac…still REMAINS DEAD…his dad didn't take him to the hospital the night he had a major head injury. Regardless of our personal opinion on how that happened, ISAAC STILL IS DEAD, his case has *very much* influenced Russian placements to the US, and will remain in our archives as will all of these cases.
Some of our cases are about adoptee committing crimes. In fact, one case from last week is about an adoptee strangling both his parents. We also have cases of people who work in child welfare that commit various criminal actions. Most cases take years to go to trial and if we don't report on the parts of the case as they occur, the information will be lost.Call it what you will. This is what the archive is about.We label the cases so people can find them with the goal being to share information to as many people as possible. Some have the victim name on them, some the alleged or known perpetrator and some have a description when perpetrator or victim is unnamed, as many foreign cases protect perpetrator and victim names.
I appreciate your concern and advocacy for orphans and minors, and yes – reporting and archiving of alleged (and true) cases of abuse is necessary as information comes about. However, I tend to agree with Mark. By the headline, "How could you? Hall of shame…" you've already labeled this man as guilty. Your additional comment of, "Another sick case where there was no accountability before, during or after placements," further presumes guilt prior to official arraignment, trial and verdict. So you have actually made a conclusion about this man before a jury has. Clearly, if he is guilty, he deserves punishment for his crimes and an investigation should be done to learn from this case how to better protect children from this type of terrible crime in the future. Likewise, if he is found innocent, I hope you post this information too and rescind your "hall of shame" statement.
I agree. Clearly you see this man as guilty already. In these cases they always see a person as guilty before proven innocent. All you have is your word against an accuser. Yes in the past there were too many times where people were not believed but nowadays it has gone too far the other way. If this person is not guilty his life and reputation are ruined forever!
Anonymous, I have not labeled the man guilty. Nope nowhere. Too bad if you don't like the name of our archive.Go start your own and label it however you want.
I just said in the above comment that all cases stay no matter what happens because either the man is guilty or someone is lying horribly-BOTH are heinous actions of people involved in child welfare and adoption. That is why the intro says "involved in" child welfare and adoption.
I stand by the no accountability. I also could add postplacement as a piece. The allegations are a pattern of abuse from 1996 to 2009. WHERE was the postplacement monitoring while they were foster kids? THERE IS NONE for postadoption. There needs to be accountability in the foster care system in the during and after placement. As for accountability before placement, there could be two things depending on the outcome of the case: If he is guilty, then I feel that there needed to be more critical thinking during the homestudy. If he is not guilty and there is lying, then the issue could involve past placements OR a lack of resources and mental health care for the kids. Either way, there is an accountability issue on the before side.
Each of these cases involve multiple overlapping failures. There are MANY prominent foster care providers and adoptive parents in our archive including *several* named foster parent of the year. Sandusky was named an Angel in Adoption!The sad thing is that too many people look the other way when it comes to child abuse.
Rally, YOU did not indicate Mr. Gaskill admitted guilt, but the first Anonymous commenter did.
I would like the first Anonymous to answer if they know something more. It sounded as if they did since they indicated there would be public outcry if he hadn't admitted guilt. Please let us know, Anonymous, where you heard there was admission of guilt. Thank -you and I hope you see this and respond.
I know Mr. Gaskill personally. He does not admit any guilt. He is professing innocence to all who know and contact him, saying this is slander from a biological family bitter at their loss of custody of their daughters. Time will tell. The case is still being investigated and no trial has been set yet.
Anonymous Feb 9: Do you know this biological family to know that they are bitter at their loss of custody? Do you know the girls personally if you know Mr. Gaskill? What is their motive for coming to the police?
Also for our readers, sometime in the last day or so Mark removed his own comment. I did not delete it.
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/02-09-2012/River_Forest_foster_dad_to_be_indicted_Feb._24
If they are going straight to indictment — that is because he confessed and there is no need for a trial, right?
Regarding my Feb 9 comment: I was intending to clarify in regards to the comments above about how Rob must have admitted guilt. I know for sure he has not. I have only seen the alleged victims in passing at community functions with the whole family. All I really know about them is what the Gaskills and others have said, and I have never even seen the alleged "bitter" family. I'm just hearing lots of theories that the girls might have been coerced into claiming these things. Who knows…. Again, the point of this comment was just to say that people close to the family believe this is a false accusation, and that I know for certain he has not admitted to any guilt. I personally, am still not sure what to think. Details are really bare in the press on what the claims and evidence are. And I hate the idea of assuming any alleged victim is lying. Yet this just doesn't seem possible at all from all I know and have observed of their family. This is just shocking news and everyone is reeling from it and feeling the pain this is causing every single member of that family, whose lives have been forever changed regardless of what side is true. Either way is terrible! This case is very much IN PROCESS.
And regarding the "going straight to indictment" question… my understanding is that there must be an indictment in order to get to a trial. Police gather evidence and work with the prosecutors to determine what the charges are. Then a grand jury must hear their case and formally indict him in order to go to trial. If the grand jury doesn't think the evidence in the case is strong enough, they would not indict him, and there'd be no trial, and it'd be over. But if they do indict, that means it will go to court, and Mr. Gaskill's would then get a chance to build a defense in court. Then that case would determine his guilt (or not) and the judge would sentence him. He could face life in prison. And often the process of being charged and arrested to even beginning a trial can be years! So this will be a long road ahead for everyone involved.
50 million bail, nuff said!
No…not "nuff said." This is a good man and good family. Stop rushing to judgement. 75 kids and 2 sisters come forward. If this were true, there would be more coming forward and there isn't.
Anonymous, Feb 22, 6:44PM, this case is quite young. I would not be so confident of others not coming forward.
As for Feb 10 comment about indictment, the sexual assault is a DIRECT indictment. A direct indictment is one in which the case goes straight to trial, before an inquiry is completed, circumventing the preliminary hearing. That means that the proscution feels probable cause is established, but the grand jury may think the evidence is weak. This does quicken the proceedings.
Today Feb 24th, the Gaskill case is in court.
Last court appearance judge said the case was to be
heard before a grand jury.
Does this mean the grand jury already heard evidence from the
state and will reveal today whether or not the defendant will
face a formal indidement with a jury by trial and then a
court date will be set for trial?
Also, can the defendent if found with probable cause can
ask for a bench tial and not a jury?
The fact the bail was set so high may indicate the state
has a strong case as the bond was set at such a staggering
amount.
Also, five children were removed by child welfare and placed
seperately in other homes which in itself would be a signal
that the state did this with good reason as I'm sure these
poor children have been traumatized and fightened.
The community at large would never let the state hear the
end of it with a huge public outcry on behalf of the
pain and suffering of the children living in new homes
needlessly and the defendent and family put through hell
on charges and evidence that is weak and or false.
Hopefully,if there is a strong case sadly for the minors
justice will prevail and their voices heard so that the
defendant receive the full punishment he deserves for
preying on the minors for at least thirteen years; inflicting
emotional and psychological pain that unfortunately these
minors have and will carry with them the rest of their lives.
Also, these minors need to hold the chid welfare system
accountable for allowing and sadly not staying invoved
with these children and family especially that the state
allowed so many children with special needs to be cared
for in one family.
Every parent with one or even two special needs children know
how hard it is to make sure their child's every need is met
and lovingly provide their children with all the love and
care they have to give and then some.
A very sad tragic story for these children to be let down
and thrown into a family and a system that failed them
miseriably if the defendant is indeed found guilty.
THe system regardless should never allowed eight special
need chidren be placed in one foster home to begin with.
Children in these cases need supervision from the state
when allowed to be adopted after being a foster care child
in the home first place until they reach adulthood as maybe
the minors would have had a chance to reveal the hell they
were put through and if true the defendant would have
received punishment sooner and would not have been able
to prey on minors if the allegations are true and proved in
court.
Is there any more news on this? It seems there certainly are many people in River Forest who seem to have information and believe that he has confessed. Also, what is the information regarding the story that the girls identified his private parts? Is there any possibility that his bond will be lowered and he will be able to leave jail? How long before this goes to trial? Also, since he was removed from the house, what does it mean that they still took all of the other children and placed them in different homes? If he was no longer there, did it matter? I just do not understand so much of this
Anonymous, March 7: We have not seen further media articles nor can we access the criminal record. The new lawyer did ask for a lowering of the bail but at this time we do not believe that has happened. The next court appearance in March 16 ( a week from Friday). I think it is possible that bail would be reduced as that is the highest bail I have seen for such a case. It is standard procedure to remove the children from the home in this type of arrest. I have seen the rumors that you write of, but do not have confirmation of any of that.
Bail may get reduced but it will be high enough to still keep him in jail as this is a serious case even though there are
people out there that can't seem to grasp that without
credible evidence and not just minors simply making accusations
because they are mentally unstable an arrest would not have been
made in the first place. Also, a grand jury heard the evidence
and the defendant was indited on two counts of class x felonies that can
place him in jail the rest of his life. Really people, do
ya think the state wants to seek justice because they want to
spend tax dollars prosecuting this case and oh yes placing
and disrupting five innocent children that were in the home
in other foster care homes because they love to torment innocent children who already started out their lives with
the deck stacked against them? Those of you accusing the
minors of mental illness or mental instability make me sick.
Why is it that these minors if indeed not right mentally did not get
treatment by these loving parents to begin with?
Why did our school system fail to recognize how screwed up
these minors were supposedly and not intervene and even file
a report with DCFS somewhere along the way?
If they were really screwed up why would the foster parents
want them around the other children in the home?
Also, why 8 special needs children in one home?
Do you really believe the big tax free checks per child
was not any way shape or form a motivation to make foster
care a business to advance ther income level?
The state I'm sure is eating crow right now as they really
let these children down in a BIG WAY. These minors if their
case is proved (seems likely though the defendant is innocent
until proven guilty) will finally have their voices heard
and will be a wake up call to people who buy into this family
being as PERFECT as their PERFECT WHITE PICKET FENCE.
Wake up Gaskill Groupies you too have been duped just like
the state. All of you need to look at what as transpired since
his arrest. Like it or not this case must have merits or the
accused would not be sitting in jail right now.
Write all the character references you can for the defendant
but when you do ask yourself why it is that often times it is
someone that we would least expect to commit a crime of this
nature because they think their secret is safe with their
victims through manipulation that a minor in this case minors
would never TELL because they were made to suffer and endure
a life that had to be emotionally and psychologically paralyzing. So, yes everyone has their day in court and are
either found guilty or innocent. That is our legal system.
Just remember it takes evidence to even have a case.
The minors accusations alone would have prevented this case to get to where it is in the first place. Gaskill Groupies take
off your ROSE COLORED GLASSES and THINK about why this case
has been indited by a grand jury, JUST ACCUSATIONS?
If that were the case God help us all because anyone could
make an accusation as simple as going to a local police
station and make a false accusation without credible evidence
and we too could be in jail with a huge bond and be facing
the conseguences of being indited by a grand jury as well.
That may happpen in Syria or Egypt but so far that does npt
happen in a country with a fair and prudent legal system.
These are all wildly speculative posts.
The last comment "so far that does npt (sic) happen in a country with a fair and prudent legal system" makes me chuckle. That's a broad statement for someone accusing others of wearing "ROSE COLORED GLASSES". There are corrupt presidents, politicians, principles, pastors, lawyers, judges, and policemen. Shall I go on?
Why not let the evidence speak for itself? This case will go to trial. Why not wait before you convict someone in the court of public opinion?
It's appropriate to be protective of children and to get very angry when a child is abused. I have much personal compassion since I was abused myself as a child. I would love the truth to be revealed in this and all cases. Yet, as an adult, I have witnessed the flip-side of terror when I took-in a young teen-age girl who lied at every possible opportunity. I shudder to think what could have happened if I was on the receiving end of such an accusation.
WAIT. Continue to defend children. Look at the evidence. Learn some patience before you convict someone.
free free free at last
The defense attorney called into question the girls’ motives for making the accusations, and argued that their allegation came years after their alleged abuse.
“His family ties, to put it mildly, are extraordinary,” Domph told Love.
That support system was clearly in evidence Friday morning, as more than 40 people crowded in to Love’s courtroom while a dozen others waited outside.
Hey May the truth Prevail — I think it did prevail when he confessed with in an hour of being in custody.
http://oakpark.suntimes.com/news/11341487-418/accused-foster-parent-free-after-bond-lowered.html
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/03-16-2012/Gaskill_pleads_not_guilty_in_River_Forest_child_abuse_case
To the people who believe this man is innocent – I hope you have sense enough not to let him watch your children.
May Truth Pevail
You are right. Often we who love children get
angry at the thought of any child being subjected to any
abuse of ANY kind. Sometimes the thoght of that happening
to our own children ignites anger and we lose sight
that this case just like any other case needs further
investigation and if going to trial hopefully evidence
that is false will be exposed and the victims if lying
will be exposed for the horrible situation they have
inflicted on the accused and their family.
If the evidence is true anger at the accused and DCFS
can't help but be felt and compassion for a family
who besides the accused will continue to suffer and
for all invoved lives sadly will never be the same.
I do see both sides and you are right~patience and
waiting for the court system to do its'job is all we
can do without letting our emotions get the best of us.
I too am a survivor of abuse from a stepfather thankfully
it was caught early on however it is something no innocent
child should have to endure.
Update 5 describes the allegations and verbal confession. These offenses are alleged when the girls were prepubescent. I hope that an investigation is ongoing with other foster children and children in the home, but I fear that this is not the case. Usually in these kinds of cases, a tip line is set up for others to come forward. I have yet to see that.
anonymouse 5:18 on March 16, very often allegations occur when the child is older or an adult for the obvious reason that there is no adult whom they trust to listen to the allegation.This does beg the question of what his wife Mary knows about this as these allegations appear to indicate that the abuse occurred in the family home.
The accused is INNOCENT until PROVEN otherwise.
The accused had an unfair bond placed on him from
the start. He has been in jail for 6 weeks and
deserved the decision by the judge to be on house
arrest as I am sure he suffered immensely as well as his
family. He deserved from the start to have a normal
bail and I do not understand why he could not have been on
house arrest while this case was investigated.
The case could go on for a long time. Thank God he is
able to be treated fairly by posting bond following
what the court has required him to do while he waits
for this bizzare case to go to trial and hopefully
be found innocent as everything that has been reported
on him he does not appear to be nothing but a loving
father and family man. His accusers probably have
some ax to grind as they were foster children that
perhaps are punishing this family for what they may
perceive as payback for something as simple as following
rules that all children have to have and maybe they
felt they were treated unfairly or thought the parents
were too strict. The court has to really investigate this
case on both sides as it seems like this could be one
of those cases that revenge might be the motive the
accusers made the allegations in the first place.
Anonymous 10:42, it is not standard because it is not safe for someone accused of these crimes to be under house arrest from the beginning.
The bail was high, but the current bail is quite low in comparison to similar cases going on right now in other parts of the country.
Your comments about axes to grind and investigating on both sides are really sickening. Blaming the victims, once again. Unbelievable that you have no concern for the other children that also might have been affected.
Look through our archive and see how many are winners of foster care awards.
Once again I'll caution people to exercise restraint and patience related to this highly sensitive case. No one will fault you for righteous anger when children are abused. Wait. Listen to all the evidence because there are MANY lives at stake. REMEMBER that these are allegations until they are proven.
There is a flip-side to the Foster-care system that deserves respect and protection as well. PLEASE consider the families who sacrifice to take kids into their home. They ALSO deserve to be protected. I know that this is not the blog for that, I understand that, but I hope that those who read this blog will seek justice for ALL- including foster-care and adoptive parents.
If we don't seek justice for ALL we will not have anyone willing to sacrifice their lives to shelter kids. Let us not take a stance that will make it worse for the very kids that need to be protected the most.
it is safe for someone accused of these crimes to be under house arrest from the beginning.
Fetal Alcohol Syndrome (FAS) is an alcohol-related birth disability and is the number one cause of mental retardation in the United States. It is also the only cause of birth defects that is entirely preventable. The condition occurs from maternal alcohol use during pregnancy. When a pregnant woman drinks alcohol, it passes through the placenta and is absorbed by the unborn baby.
Children with fetal alcohol syndrome typically have multiple handicaps and require special medical, educational, familial and community assistance. These children may require lifelong, expensive, intensive care and intervention to reach their potential. There is no known safe amount of alcohol use during pregnancy and no known time when drinking alcohol is safe. Alcohol can do more damage to the developing embryo and fetus than illegal or legal drugs.
Lying (purposefully telling an untruth) and stealing (taking what does not belong to you) are dishonest behaviors that break the rules of society. Such misbehaviors in children, adolescents, or adults, especially if they happen often, may be signs of other more significant problems. Sometimes these misbehaviors and others, like cheating, truancy * , destroying property, or hurting others, are called antisocial behaviors, or disruptive behaviors, because they break social rules.
HE CONFESSED!!! Is it not clear that this man CONFESSED? I do not know if he confessed to all allegations but he confessed to enough to let you know that he is not right, that he did abuse these girls and it should go from there! Please, please accept that you made some terrible mistakes, need to pay the price and make it as easy as you can for these poor girls. THESE GIRLS ARE RUINED!!! How absolutely sad and sick it is to think they were taken from a home because of alcohol abuse and put in a home to suffer SEXUAL ABUSE! I think they were better off in their original home. What they are saying happened is just terrible. Aso, think about this…I assume Robert Gaskill did not sexually abuse his biological children. Does this mean the foster/adoptive children are "lesser" people? Are these children considered not as worthy and therefore can be used for his biting fetish? Good grief, entertain your damned fetish by yourself or with a dog. Don't bring innocent, poor, sad orphans into your web of filth. You were the only parents they knew. You were there to protect them and mentor, nourish them. You used them. You used them to gain money and to meet your sick sexual desires. And then you "high profiled" yourselves to be such wonderful foster parents. Who could these girls turn to? DCFS obviously didn't know what they were doing or they would not have placed them in a family with so many kids all the same age. I can hardly breath I am so upset by this whole story and the possibility that even though there was a confession, this man could still be found innocent. I can see it coming, no written confession and oh, yes, is he going to say he was under the influence of alcohol and didn't know what he was doing? What can be done to now help these girls? Is there anything the public can do for them?
DCFS obviously didn't know what they were doing
A false confession is an admission of guilt in a crime in which the confessor is not responsible for the crime. False confessions can be induced through coercion or by the mental disorder or incompetency of the accused. Even though false confessions might appear to be an exceptional and unlikely event, they occur on a regular basis in case law, which is one of the reasons why jurisprudence has established a series of rules to detect, and subsequently reject, false confessions.
Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
I do not know if he confessed. No written confession!
I think they were better off in their original home? I guess another mistake that the "DCFS obviously didn't know what they were doing"
sad orphans? Are the parents dead?
May the Truth Prevail/March 17, there is nothing in the foster care system that deserves respect, especially when it comes to Illinois DCFS. We have 100s of horrendous cases in just one year from the foster care system.
We are not stupid here so you can check your condescension about innocent until proven guilty. The current way that child protection operates is by no means the only way it can operate.
Anonymous just under that, it is NOT safe for house arrest for allegations of pedophilia. I have no idea what you are implying by talking about FAS.Is that some more blame the victim or are you saying that Gaskill has FAS and is not responsible for his actions?
Anonymous just below that, uh..yea thanks for defining lying and stealing for us.You really are not contributing anything to this conversation.
There was a verbal confession to police as stated on the record. Chicago area has been known for some atrocious forced verbal confessions, but there is not indication at this time that this is the case.
For all of you, the top 5 risks for a child for child abuse areFrom Child Abuse [Medicine Net Medical Author:John Mersch, MD, FAAP and Medical Editor: John Mersch, MD, FAAP], "risk factors include
1.age: 67% of abused children are less than 1 year old; 80% are less than 3 years old;
2.past history of abuse: Repeated abuse has been shown to occur more than 50% of the time; repeatedly abused children have a 10% chance of sustaining a lethal event;
3.children with learning disabilities, speech/language disorders and mental retardation;
4.children with congenital anomalies (malformations) and chronic/recurrent conditions; and
5.adopted and foster children."
Pedophiles look for opportunities and the US foster care system is a prime opportunity. Most crimes against children in foster care are sex abuse.
Rally, I have no intention of being condescending to you or anyone who cares for the welfare of children. Your ire toward convicted abusers is COMPLETELY justified. I was sexually abused and I wasn't in the foster care system. I understand this issue from a deeply personal level.
My request was that the case could be heard before he was convicted without a trial. For the sake of families that open their hearts and homes to kids, we also owe it to them tto be given respect.
That's not condescending, that's compassion.
Does anyone know how the police can prove a confession
to whatever he confessed to the police at the station?
If there is no written confession of any sort that he
did not sign, how do the state prosectors prove at
trial that he did confess to some things and made
the sick statement about a biting fetish?
Why would the police say that he said that(it is so sick)
if he really did not.
I find that part very hard to swallow as the officer
or officers would make up such a perverted statement
and make it part of the record submitted to the state
attorney office.
Why would they make it up? Probably because this family had so many other foster kids. The cop or whoever probably thought it would be a huge career boost! Only no one else has come forward and no written or audio confession. Plus who is stupid enough to confess to something like this without asking for a lawyer? Just my observations. My rule #1 – don’t talk to cops without a lawyer.
Name, that makes no sense at all. Wouldn’t it make more sense that they are concerned about their sibling still with them? What kind of boost would a cop get in this case? People confess things to cops all the time.
This man CONFESSED within 1 hour of being in custody. This is not a man that was questioned for hours, or beaten in to submission. In my opinion, this behavior is indicative of a man who was ashamed little girl perversion and was glad he was finally caught
Open your eyes people. There bond was high because it should have been. I have heard – these girls were placed when they were 2 and 4. The Gaskill's were really the only family they ever knew. This man was not just a foster father — he was an ADOPTIVE father.
Throw the book at him, LOCK HIM UP! Don't ever let the Gaskill's care for children again.
Girls if you happen to read this blog. I believe you and am on your side.
May the Truth Prevail, This statement "For the sake of families that open their hearts and homes to kids, we also owe it to them tto be given respect" makes no sense. ALL foster parents are not being investigated, just this one.As an adoptive parent, I am disgusted that this type of person passed a homestudy and yes I am judging him on a verbal confession that cops have claimed under oath. I do not understand why people believe family members crowding a court room more than cops under oath. I could be wrong but the victims in the case deserve the respect. They are the ones with no voice.
I think the family duped like they always do and have
been doing all along; the Judge in this case.
The Gaskills prevailed with their many groupies to
cram the court with not only their family but many
of their fans who just can't believe
that such a crime as the accused is facing on two counts no less is CAPABLE of such a Deviant act.
Obviously, they have blinders on and will continue
to have blinders on even during trial testimony by
the prosecution when the case is finally tried.
In the meantime people that have voiced opinions
on this forum have labled the victims liars and severely
diminished in mental capacity due to FAS.
Remember: "WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE GOOD FOR THE GOSSE IS
GOOD FOR THE GANDER"
Stop trashing two courageous women who want and NEED
their voices heard.
Amen to Rally 12:43 PM The young women now are probably
for the first time in their young lives testifying on
the horrific abuse and robbed childhood as they are grown
women now and now have the courage that they as while growing
could not exercise living in fear in a home that the accused
could have easily manipulated and controlled their minds
by telling them perhaps they were lucky to have a home and
that nobody would believe them anyway. Obviously, children
can and are manipulated by the perpetrator in these instances
especially in foster homes.These girls do not have a bunch of
groupies standing up for them in court like the accused.
Instead, they have been JUDGED by the hypocrites that moan
on this blog that the accused being the "perfect family man" could not beyond a shadow of a doubt commited the crimes he
will be standing trial for. The state is going to have to
paint a picture of two abused little girls FINALLY having
their VOICES heard now as young women taking the first step
to heal by confronting and facing their accuser.
Girls, if you read this STAY STRONG DROWN OUT ALL THE VOICES
that have diminished your worth and capacity and if you can
FACE the ACCUSED in court and look him straight in the eye
with fear no longer holding you prisoner and SPEAK LOUD AND
CLEAR. Then let's see how the people who call you liars
and not of sound mind have to say?
I pray you have your once tiny voices as little girls
heard LOUD AND CLEAR as the brave grown women you have become.
Having known the Gaskill family in years past, I was shocked when I first heard these allegations and questioned how something like this could have possibly occurred. However, reading news of a verbal confession and having knowledge of the girls' character, I believe this all to be true. What would these girls have to gain from making up allegations such as this? Nothing. The press keeps reporting on Mr. Gaskill's community involvement and the dozens of courtroom supporters. The judge cited this as one of the reasons for the huge price drop in bond and Mr. Gaskill's release back into the community. I hope the victims realize that there is a large network of community members that are standing behind them, believe them and hope that justice is served.
I would be willing to cram a court room with a group of other people in support for these girls. I believe the Gaskills in these many years passed have certainly done some good things, some good deeds. I believe they tried to do the right thing…at least I hope they were initially sincere in their attempts to help children. I'm also very sorry to say that I do know them and there is a lot more there to meet the eye that is not right. They are not totally the people they portray themselves to be. They have actually tormented many people who I believe are afraid of them. I think we will start to see these people slowly surface and begin to share some of their knowledge. Mary has always been very quick to point out, accuse, confront and bully people she felt were doing something wrong. Now here she is…living with the real enemy, the pervert was in her very own house. I believe these girls and admire their strength. I do not know if I could do what they have done.
"the Gaskills in these many years passed have certainly done some good things"
“I’m shocked. I’m stunned. I see him out and about with the kids all the time,” said one woman. “I think most of us think it’s got to be untrue.”
Rutz said. “He was well liked and well respected in the community.”
“Lydia Home was deeply saddened to learn of the charges filed against Mr. Rob Gaskill,
"We do not see an admission of guilt yet."
"Why would the police say that he said that(it is so sick)
if he really did not.
I find that part very hard to swallow as the officer
or officers would make up such a perverted statement
and make it part of the record submitted to the state
attorney office."
Innocent of murder, Oak Park volunteer files suit
After 25 years in prison, Eric Caine volunteers at food pantry
"When Caine refused to sign a confession, he was struck "with a cupped hand on the side of the head," which ruptured his eardrum, according to the lawsuit. He signed a false confession the next day. Investigations by the Internal Affairs Division of the Chicago Police Department and the State's Attorney General's Office helped prove that his confession was false."
And Caine was in prison for ? So what was that about "under oath"
I agree with March18 10;50 PM
Don't really know this family well either, but know of them as many people in the community have always admired them for taking care of many special need children.
However rumors spread and many people have expressed how zany his wife is and how
she has problems not minding her business and has always called the police to report
petty stuff on people near her home no less. Rumors are that she put that picket fence up
around her house as a SPITE FENCE to make it harder for the neighbors to the south of
her to have a harder time backing out of their driveway. If they were my neighbors I
would have moved right after that-who needs that kind of aggravation.
the people she did this to own some business or something so maybe that is why they
still live there. If the accused was so great and a model citizen why could he not
control his wife and her wacky behavior? I'm sure the police must know this is true about
her because they get the calls and probably know ahead of time that the call is about
something stupid. I also have heard that she is intimidating and will even spread lies
about you (IF you cross her) or she does not like you and some lies have hurt many people
and they then have to set people straight that whatever she lied about was not true.
I think people must know so much more and they should share whatever knowledge
they have about how quirky the wife is which really reflects a bad perception not only
of her but her husband. I don't know many husbands that would accept
this odd behavior and think their wife is normal. My husband would probably have me
have a psyc evaluation or something. I hope maybe people that know even more that
when added together paints a picture of a truly disfunctional marriage that explains
perhaps why the accused said he has a biting fetish, maybe he was taking out his
hostility on these poor girls instead of his wacky wife (HE SHOULD HAVE BIT HER)
Honestly, there is probably a lot more than meets the eye here and I hope it
does come out as it only proves how weird the two of them are thus the deviant behavior
that the husband is accused of could really have a psychological (sick of course) deep
seated reason that he took out on two girls that have had their childhoods taken away
because they were sadly put there by DCFS by what was probably an Academy Award
PERFORMANCE as the model couple. I too wish the girls had their own supporters in
court as they are obviously up against the crazy wife who is more than capable of
attracting nut cases like herself that fill the court in support of a pervert that
she lived with it and probably created. My heart does go out to the children in the
family. They are not at fault and I'm sure if they could speak honestly, they probably
thought the parents were odd as they have I'm sure witnessed first hand on who
really wears the pants in the family and is totally in charge: their mother.
I think the people in their social circles should wake up and smell the coffee and
start believing the perception they have of the couple they think they know and
ACCEPT SOMETHING REALLY IS WRONG HERE. Maybe the police will start welcoming
citizens that know the outrageous behavior of the wife. THey will then realize her own husband
is afraid of her as she obviously was able to get away with her behavior by her husband
who could not man up to her-but manned up to control and ruin two innocent lives
that forever have to live with their nightmare and their lost childhood.(DISPICABLE)
So, really March 19 11:29 your quotes listed do not mean a thing except for the fact
that you too are one of the groupies as someone else on this blog called the likes of you–
………DRANK THE GASKILL KOOLAID and probably there is no hope for you
and your pals as you not only drank it but OVERDOSED and their is no HOPE
for all of you. Hopefully, you will face rehab when the girls have their voices heard
in court and your KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR FALLS OFF HIS HORSE .
Anonymous Mar 19 2:55, relevance to THIS case? As I said before, there have been atrocious cases where confessions were forced, but there is NO evidence of this. Even the defense has not brought that up.
In the Caine case, Caine's name came up after police TORTURED another witness. In THIS case, the victims HAVE IDENTIFIED GASKILL, their adoptive father as the culprit.
Insane and lame comparison.
Just watch…people are now going to come forward and start saying some of the things they know about Gaskills. It is not going to be a pretty picture, they are not what they want you to think they are. Too many people have had trouble with them.
I couldn't agree more with March 19, 2012 4:07 PM… "I think people must know so much more and they should share whatever knowledge they have…"
Relaying isolated incidents may seem weak but when circumstantial evidence is cumulative, the weakness of such evidence is strengthened. As more people come forward, we can help to paint the complete picture. As a member of the same(former)parish and school as the Gaskills, I personally had many interactions where I was intimidated, mislead, and baffled by the behaviors of what I saw as a very dysfunctional and destructive mother. I found Rob to be very quiet, distant,and possibly worn down by a domineering wife. Their dedication and involvement was real but I began to doubt their motives and authenticity after a series of questionable incidents. This was my experience and I can speak for only myself and my family when I say that we knew pretty quickly that there was something "off".
Not to point out the obvious but I have to agree with
Rally said: March 19, 2012 4:32 PM…
What is with the copying and pasting of bits from earlier posts, random irrelevant references, and cryptic posts? More meaningful contributions, insights, and/or coherent arguments would be appreciated.
Why do people who "Don't really know this family well either" have so much slander and gossip to spread?
River Forest police station is no way any shape or form a
department that even comes close and could not be more
opposite than CHICAGO POLICE DEPTS all around the Chicago
area. If anything they are true professionals DEDICATED to
the citizens of RF an are especially wonderful at protecting
our precious children in the cmmunity.If a child is approached
by a stranger, followed to school,have a pervert expose
themselves not to mention child safety across the board
they are totally on it and our children know that our
officers will protect them and when apprehend perverts that
prey on children the apprehended person is prosecuted to
the full extent of the law and it is always one less stalker
that is out being a threat to children in our town and
elsewhere. What does this have to do with the Gaskill case?
EVERYTHING-RF police have questioned many chid stalkers and
would be abductors that match and fit the description from
children that have had one of these nut-jobs stalk or
try to entice them to come near their car. Many times they
are able to arrest and charge the criminal with either an
admission of guilt or evidence that stands up in court and
are able to prosecute them to the punishment that fits their crime.Having said that,they are not amateurs at the art of
questioning and dealing with persons that may or may not
have comitted a crime. THere has never been anything reported
on questionable police behavior or tactics in dealing with
would be criminals at RF station. We are a small town and most
citizens that have lived here long enough know many if not
most of the officers by name. They in turn know many citizens
and form opinions about a particular family or individual
based on encounters with them their children and even get
to know families that live in particular houses or blocks.
Also, they are familiar with what articles are written in the local papers both RF and OP and no doubt even read about the
Gaskills receiving a second place award for ADVOCACY of
FOSTER CARE as well AS ADOPTION OF FOSTER CARE CHILDREN.
The fact that one of our top seasoned officer on the force,
Officer Rutz said Gaskill was well liked and respected in the community only shows that like others in the community that
were snowed by the oh so perfect Gaskills he too bought into
the fake persona of this couple.
To use that quote and others like it only shows what a great
job this couple did to make themselves appear superior to
other families because they were so WONDERFUL taking in all
these special needs children and wanted people to do
back-flips over their generosity and love of children as
they were so dedicated to children with special needs and or
disabilities. Many sane families did not roll over and idolize
them. Many if were really honest without fear of the wifes'
singling them out would go on record and say the plain and
simple truth: FOSTER CARE BECAME A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS FOR THEM.
Supposedly ther are some kids that were recently returned to this home with the wacky mother. What is DCFS crazy?
My answer is YES as well as SHAMEFUL.
The girls need
to know that many people commend them and respect them coming
forward even knowing the fans of this couple are ready and
have thrown them under the bus. GIRLS BE PROACTIVE IN YOUR
PURSUIT OF JUSTICE and BECOME THE DRIVER OF THE BUS!
Is this blog a source for slander and gossip? Some may perceive it that way. I don't though. Rather I see the recent posts as people who are very disappointed in Judge Love who determined Rob not to be a threat to society because of his courtroom supporters. Rob was given a break based on those around him that spoke highly of him. Rob's supporters have made slanderous remarks calling the accusers liars, mentally ill, disabled and vengeful. I think people realize now that the other side needs to be heard so that the Judge can understand the real picture who Rob is. There is a history of instability that needs to come out.
It has been an interesting conversation today and I thank those commenters. I do need to mention that this case is NOT just about Robert but DCFS and what is looking like large gaps in their postplacement monitoring of the Gaskills. It also has further implications in that Robert worked for the Christian Alliance for Oprhans organization LYDIA home and Mary also at least volunteered for them, so just like the Sandusky case, this has overlap with other organizations. Unlike the Sandusky case, this case really is NOT publicized very far and there are not hotlines set up for more victims to come forward. Are the other 75 former foster children being sought out even? It is concerning.
Wow this last post makes so much sense!
I live in OP and don't even know this family
but I have found even in the court hearing
last Fri.that even the Judge was swayed and bought into
this guy being so wonderful and with not one but two counts
of sex abuse of two minors that were in his home and care
was put on house arrest with a drastic reduction of
the bail (50 mii was given to begin with as they were
really saying no bail) and despite objections by the
prosecution received leinency that he certainly does
not deserve as the crimes that the grand jury indited him
on are as henious as they come. What a travesty of justice.
This guy should be in jail to trial as the victims
were in their own private hell and living in a jail
not a home and had not six weeks of being in prison
but years of torment they had to endure and suffer
silently. Hopefully, from what I have read on this blog
many people could give insight inti the true nature
of the accused and his wife that even operated a business
called Tapestry out of their home and I bet it was not for
free. THis is such a terrible story. For the victims
sake hopefully their sad story will have a happy ending
when their abuser is held accountable for his dispicable
actions and he is held prisoner like they were only
he will be a prisoner for many more years if convicted.
Apparently, people in RF and OP have not heard of the
saying "YOU CAN'T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT's COVER"
Hopefully, the jury will know that and dig DEEPER INTO
THIS BOOK more thorughly than th JUDGE did in this case
by not setting his bond at least to 25 million and
totally ignoring the serious crimes he is accused of
and did not even think of the victims that were in
a jail almost their whole lifes without anyone bailing
them out as they were helpless innocent children
that no doubt lived in fear and now finally are out
of jail and courageously are seeking justice for
the living hell they lived in for years.
God Bless and be with these young women and hopefully
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED by a intelligent jury that
will read the whole book…. NOT JUST IT's COVER>
Make sure to remember Judge Love next time you see her on a retention ballot:
http://cookcountyjudges.com/judgeBios/Lovefull.html
I have read and I am more convinced than ever that information of the character of this couple that is coming out now by
people who have known them and or have had exposure to them
at some point over the years have a whole wealth of info
that when pieced together creates a good picture of phony
and selfish people that made an income for a lifestyle
that wanted for themselves and had nothing to do with
having fun having lots of children as Mr. GAskill said in
the interview for the Oak Leaves in 2009. FUN? Who are they
kidding? Taking on children with special needs requires
hard work, tons of love, and total dedication to making
them grow healthy in body mind and spirit as well as making
strides and sucesses in overcoming difficulties unique to
that particular child. THe fact that they had eight is
mind boggling. Unless you have a care giver working with
each child (which is impossible) there is no way you can convince me these children needs were met except the bare
minimum. They had their basic needs met and that was it.
Sure out in public (in church especially) the family put on quite an act to garner the attention and adulation they
craved by people who thought they were totally selfless and
remarkable people. People that got close to them soon realized
the only remarkable thing about them was that they were
willing to take in as many kids as they could and were
thinking of their bankbook and not the children the state
placed in their care. DCFS should take every child out of that
home as they are RESPONSIBLE for this horrible case to happen in the first place. I hope the victims can sue the state for
their poor supervision and case studies as well as sue the
family for the childhood that was taken away from the both
of them forever and can never be replaced. They are to be
respected and praised for having the courage now to face
the demonic crimes they endured and face the accused now
as young adults that are no longer the helpless little girls
that suffered in silence for so many years.
These girls need to know they are supported and that what
happened to them was not their fault. When justice is served
they can start their young lives and be very proud of the
strong young women they are and that they are helping others
that have suffered sex abuse to not suffer in silence and
report their abuser and reclaim their life just like they
are doing so courageously by finally seeking justice.
The community of people that have anything to share with
authorities should come forward and share what they know
or have encountered or even witnessed to give the girls
the support that the accused has received by people that
think and believe from the Gaskills that these girls are
so disturbed and unstable due to FAS. THese people better take
a good look at the whole picture in this case and then decide
who really is disturbed and unstable.
How can children still be in the Gaskill home?
Even if the charge is against only Mr. Gaskill. Mrs. Gaskill is standing by her husband and getting crowds of people to sit in the court room. It clear that she doesn't see the best interest of the child.
How is possible that they would leave kids in her care!?! There were 5 kids in the initial artical – 1 boy (b/t 17-18 years old) and 4 girls — I would say all under 6.
Perhaps they left the boy and took the girls? Does anyone know which children still remain in the family home?
from 2009
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/06-23-2009/Running_for_Lucy
http://rememberingtrecie.wordpress.com/
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/10-06-2009/Obituaries
Re the message above, this is Crabbina responding. Thank you and all those previous posters who are willing to take a stance. We don't know all the facts, but for anyone to imply that FAS is the reason why two girls have come forward with details of abuse (setting themselves up for public exposure and the scorn of those on their parents' side) is very upsetting. From all the comments posted from those who know the family or live in the community, it's starting to become very apparent that this may well not have been the happy home and "forever family" so many assumed it was.
I can tell you that after many years of tracking adoption filth, those who defend wrongdoing way overshadow those who try to stop it. The denial is so strong because to face what might be a horrible reality is too painful to contemplate. What if Super-Dad is actually a monster? What if Saintly Mom is really deeply disturbed and abusive? Kind of upends your faith in your own judgment, doesn't it.
I knew Missy as a little girl (elementary grades), and it is breaking my heart to think of what she may have been enduring in those years. She was a darling. She was tenderhearted and thoughtful. She was intelligent and gifted in language arts. Her writing revealed a depth of character beyond her young years. The shift toward becoming an angry, troubled young woman seemed to come around high school. It was very, very sad.
I knew Amber, too. She had learning challenges, and I don't know that she would be able to participate in an elaborate lie for any extended period of time. I also remember her having a speech impediment, and I didn't know why it was not being addressed.
It seems very plausible to me that these women have come forward out of concern for another foster child in the Gaskill house. Over the past couple of years, Gaskills were working to another little girl into the "family". That little girl is Missy and Amber's sister.
I see that Anonymous 03/20 10:12 has posted the link to the article "Remembering Trecie" Here's what I remember about Trecie: When Trecie lived longer than the doctors had predicted, a social worker, according to Mary, had come into the house and found that the only room in the house suitable to be made into a space for the child and her equipment was the dining room. Mary was flipping out and whining to me, "I can't give up my dining room! I don't want to hurt my family!" I was floored. Wasn't Trecie part of the family? My family would have upended our own tiny house to care for the dog, let alone a baby we loved.
That article shows a beautiful picture of Maura with Trecie. Maura took on a lot of the childcare obligations in that household. I believe she and her husband are caring for children taken out of Mary's house.
Good luck to everyone that would like to cram the court in
support of the victims who totally deserves supporters putting
a face on the all too frequent scenerio that takes place in
a larger proportion in foster homes than the general population
that this case has brought to light ( and for all children
everywhere in general. The reason being is a lot of the people
(not all of them) actually know and have had experiences
with (the wife) and know they will unleash a tiger into
the community that they have to live in. The fury and
retaliation by the intimidating nature of this woman
is a force of nature that can not be reckoned with.
Years of her spiteful and erratic and revengeful nature
are her signature in RF whenever she is crossed
in any way shape or form. Many times her vindictivenes
has caused many people to fear and stay away from her as
she has been the way she is for years.
I think if you are citizens
that have followed this case and feel disgusted by the
cramming of the court room by her loyal followers, you
could help if you are not someone she does not know by
organizing and getting other people that feel the same way
to stand up and show up in court and sit on the prosecution
side as advocates for the victims in this case.
Help these victims also by writing letters to support them
and encourage them. Let them know there are many many people that
admire their courage to come forward and urge them to not
be afraid of the accused and his wife no longer and TESTIFY
IN COURT WITHOUT THE VEIL OF FEAR THEY LIVED WITH FOR ALMOST
HALF THEIR CHILDHOOD. URGE them to take the stand and TELL
THE JURORS THE NIGHTMARE THEY WERE MADE TO SUFFER AND LOOK
THERE ABUSER IN THE EYE AND FINALLY TELL HIM WHAT HELL
THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH.
THE rest of the people
that have info either call, write, or talk with authorities
and write a letter even if you want that the authorities can share with the victims and like the defendent the letters
may be submitted to this judge and open her eyes that she
has been duped big time like so many others have in the past.
Stand up and help these girls have the SUPPORT THEY NEED AND
DESERVE. ACT NOW THE SOONER THE BETTER!
March 20th 12:PM YOU ARE SO RIGHT!
PEOPLE NEED TO BE PRO-ACTIVE STARTING NOW.
THIS BLOG HAS BEEN A REAL EYE-OPENER.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SHARING INFO BECAUSE THEY
ARE ABLE TO SEE THE VENOM TOWARD THE VICTIMS
COME OUT OF THE MANY GASKILL GOD SQUAD THAT
BELIEVE MARY THAT THESE KIDS ARE TRASH AND
LIARS THAT ARE COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT AND
EXTREMELY DIMENTED DUE TO FAS.
THE GOD SQUAD BELIEVES ALL OF THIS AS IT
WOULD MAKE THEM REALLY FEEL BETRAYED AND
STUPID FOR PLACING THESE PEOPLE ON A PEDESTAL
SO HIGH THAT THEY ARE ALREADY IN HEAVEN AND
HOW DARE ANYONE TELL THEM ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
WELL GOD SQUAD HOLD ONTO YOUR SEATS AND TRASH
TALKING TWO YOUNG GIRLS WHO HAD THEIR CHILDHOOD
AND INNOCENCE TAKEN AWAY AT VERY YOUNG AGES
AND ENDURED THE UNTHINKABLE FOR HALF OF THEIR
YOUNG LIVES.
ANY ADULT THAT CAN TRASH TALK AND SAY REPREHENSIBLE
STATEMENTS THAT THEY WERE TOLD BY THESE PEOPLE
SHOULD LOOK IN THE MIRROR. IF YOU ARE OR ARE NOT
PARENTS YOU TOO WERE ONCE AN INNOCENT CHILD.
PLACE YOURSELVES IN THE SHOES OF THESE TWO NOW
GROWN GIRLS. YOU PEOPLE WHO PROFESS TO BE SO
CHRISTIAN RECITING BIBLE VERSUS NO LESS THAT
YOU HAVE USED AGAINST THESE GIRLS TO PROVE
THAT THESE GIRLS ARE THROW-AWAYS AND WORTHLESS
BECAUSE YOU HANG ON EVERY LIE THAT THE FAMILY
HAS PUT OUT THERE ARE NOT WHAT YOU PROFESS TO
BE EITHER AND ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN THE PEOPLE
YOU ARE SO SURE ARE SO PERFECT AND COULD NOT
POSSIBLY BE TARNISHED IN ANYWAY AS YOU STUPID
PEOPLE HAVE PUT HALOS ON THEIR HEADS AND HEAR
ANGELS SING WHENEVER YOU ARE AROUND THEM.
PEOPLE WHO HAVE KNOWN THE GASKILLS MORE AND
LONGER THAN ALL OF YOU NO BETTER. (BY THE WAY THEY
COLLECT FRIENDS FOR A TIME AND WHEN FRIENDS START
CATCHING ON TO THEIR GIG THEY ARE BANISHED FROM
THE GASKILL KINGDOM FOREVER).
TREAD CAREFULLY YOU ARE IN DANGEROUS WATERS.
THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS COUPLE
HAPPILY JUMPED SHIP A LONG TIME AGO RATHER
THAN EXPERIENCE WHAT CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED
AS BEHAVIOR AND NEGATIVETY TOWARD THEIR
FOSTER CHILDREN EVEN IN THE CHID'S PRESENCE.
SO HOLD ON TO THEIR WINGS AND GET READY FOR PEOPLE
ON THIS BLOG AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT TO COME OUT
AND SUPPORT THESE GIRLS IN ANY WAY THEY CAN.
BLOGGERS AND OTHER ADVOCATES FOR THESE TWO GIRLS
GET BUSY NOW! ORGANIZE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE
SITTING ON THE PROSECUTION SIDE BECAUSE THEY
CARE AND MAKE SURE MARY DOES NOT KNOW YOU AS THERE
WILL BE HELL TO PAY. THE REST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY E-MAIL THE DETECTIVES, CALL THEM, WRITE
LETTERS TO THE JUDGE SUPPORTING MISTY and Amber and SUPPORT THEM AS WE ARE RF A TOWN THAT LOVES ALL CHILDREN AND VALUE EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM.
Couple questions…..
Does it makes sense anyone that several children would be in Mrs. Gaskill's care? The initial news report said 5 children were removed. Now several are in her care….what? Could an investigation be concluded and the children returned to her? I don't understand that at all
Second I noticed when the 16March article came out it had the the girls first names. The article was edited to now say victim1 and victim2. Is that because the abuse occured when they were minors to the paper can't print???
I remember many different children that lived in the Gaskill household in the early years of their foster care.They were always the first to share with whoever would listen each child's diagnosis, family status and abuse history. It was so sad. People who were supposed to protect them had no respect or basic understanding of the children's right to privacy. My only guess is that sharing this information fulfilled some need for attention. I can't figure out why else they would want to expose these vulnerable children in the community like that.
I have also witnessed Mary Gaskill spouting personal information about the children in her care. It was uncomfortable. Another thing…she also seemed to create or imagine physical and mental problems some of these children had which I don't think they did have. Even saying both of these girls have FAS. Is that really true?
Would it make a difference to show up at the courthouse? I would like to show support for the girls. I also am afraid of Mary. What could be done?
March 20 10:42 I too remember vividly that the Gaskills
did not respect or guard the childrens' privacy and almost could not wait to let you know a child's personal histoty
which never should be shared with anyone at all.
It is very sad and even when the children were older they
still talked about their backround in front of the child
or children. I think they were just plain mean and it
spoke volumes on how they viewed their role as foster parents.
They truly did not care about these children and they seemed
to enjoy talking about the unfortunate circumstances that
caused them to be wards of the state by DCFS and in need of
foster care. Unfortunately, the word PARENT is in the word
and definition of Foster Parent. Parent was not the role
they took on. They were CUSTODIANS of these poor children
and nothing more. If they were really Foster Parenting these
children they would have had their privacy respected and
loved and treated as they treated their own biological
children. THese children were just little people that they had
to put up with and many times treated as if they didn't
exist as a lot of times they were not even around when
they were visiting someone with their biological children.
They were always second fiddle and as the children grew up
they knew that their so called parents could care less about them and they knew they really would never be real members
of this family even if legally adopted and given the name
Gaskill.
I do not live in RF. Why are people so afraid of Mary Gaskill? I've heard she's quick to file a law suit… does anyone have solid info? I do know she sued her last employer when she was let go; I'm pretty sure they were happy just to give her $$ so she would go away. Also, does anyone know the true story of why she got kicked out of St. Luke's?
I knew the girls and have reason to believe their claims, and am thinking I should speak up — but want to know what I may be getting myself into.
Thanks for any helpful info.
Anonymous 12:41PM: If you do know the girls and can vouch for their character, I am sure that would be greatly appreciated and possibly necessary in this case. Please consider giving that support.With so many children fostered, there may be other victims who may come forward…
To
March 21 2012 12:09 AM In regards to the qustion you raised
about wanting to go to court and sit on the prosecution side
whether the girls are strong enough to be in court and
perhaps testify or not. I hear your concerns loud and clear.
I like you know for a fact and have witnessed Mary tell
as many people has she could that the chidren in her care,
especially Misty and Amber always bringing up the fact that
they were FAS babies which if true is no one's dam business
nor does it DEFINE who these girls are and that if true
if you knew the girls (I am assuming you do) if it was
true or not one of her many lies; the girls were progressing
well in school and if they were so mentally disturbed, there
would be documentation as well as intervention as we have
one of the TOP school disricts in the state. Our teachers,
social workers, and principals now and past, are top notch
and very perceptive and pro-active when a child is
struggling in academics, social behavior, and obvious
behavior that the school Dist. would have our Dist.
psychologist and evaluate the child and then make
a judgement on how or if their needs should be addressed
if they were in his jugement in need of prompt psychiatric
evaluation and treatment.
Mary also was a borderline mother that presented the
disorder of (sp? may be incorrect: Munchowsin ) It
is a disorder that mothers make up physical or mental
symptons of a child as they themselves have problems
and want attention on themselves not really the child.
However, many believe Mary wanted everyone to believe
these children were needy both mentally and physically andin
some other childrens' cases, as what would she do if they
were perceived as bright, overcoming problems they may
or may not have? It would totally change what the state
was paying them extra money for. If the children were
mainstreamed without SP. ED services she would loose
a substantial amount of money by the state.
To go around putting a label of FAS whether true or not
was her way of diminishing these children and putting
a stigma on them that affected the girls sel-esteem
immensely as they heard her talk about them even when they
were in ear shot which was not only sad but despicable.
She NEVER would do that to one of her BIO. children.
What do we do? We have a wonderful professional police/
detective force that will listen and take information off
the record without diclosing our name. You can call the
non-emergency # and ask to speak with detectives on the
case and they will appreciate any info that will give them
more insight into this case. It is IMPORTANT for the
girls sake to give them the support they need NOW.
We watched them suffer silently over the years and
were concerned, sad, and heartbroken as we too were
as helpless as they were as to report ANYTHING to DCFS
and if she knew your identity there woud be hell to pay.
This is a very serious case and it is not only RIGHT
but necessary to help our force so they can paint the
full picture of a horrible woman whose only
interest was not the children, it was all about
money so she could lavish and spoil her bio. kids
and treat the children in her care as nothing
more than borders in her home. So DO IT ASAP and tell
other with info to do the same. IT does not even
require a trip to the station and it is more helpful
to have a dialog with the DET. than an e-mail.
WE CITIZENS OF RF PROTECT ALL OUR CHILDREN: THESE
GIRLS NEED ARE HELP AS THEY HAD NO PROTECTION THEIR
WHOLE LIFE!
Totally Agree with the blogger for people who know and have
experienced "THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PERFECT WHITE GASKILL FENCE". I too am someone who has seen personally and heard
from the mother herself criticizing, relaying private info
on the two victims especially; but sadly the other children as well. The damage she alone did to these children is not a crime
that she can be charged with except perhaps if those of us
that knew the family(THE PARENTS) and reported the damage
she was inflicting which some of us unfortunate enough to
witness firsthand to DCFS maybe these girls might have
been removed and no other child would have been placed with them. Looking back, we all know why we did not report her
as she is feared by many myself included and there would be
hell to pay. I wish I would have now, as I realize she could be reported to the police and have a restrining order put on her. However,even if that happened she would find other
devious ways to make life miserable for not only you
but your own family. WE can HELP NOW I AGREE AND WE OWE THAT
TO THE GIRLS WHO KNOW HOW CRAZY SHE IS BUT STILL NOT ONLY
FACED THE CRIMES OF THE ACCUSED BUT FACED AND KNEW THEY
WOULD CONTINUE TO FACE BY HEARING ALL THE STILL AWFUL THINGS
SHE IS TELLING EVERYONE THAT WILL LISTEN TO HELP HER HUBAND
BT GETTING AWAY WITH HIS TORMENT JUST AS SHE HAS GOTTEN
AWAY WITH IT (DUPING DCFS AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY)
ALL THESE YEARS. DCFS BETTER WAKE UP AS SHE STILL HAS
CHILDREN IN HER CARE THAT SHE OPENLY TELLS THEIR PRIVATE
INFO IN FRONT OF THEM AS WELL.
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY NEED TO SPEAK WITH THE AUTHORITIES
AND THEY WILL BE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR COMPASSION ANDGOOD
CITIZENSHIP AND THEY WILL NOT DISCLOSE YOUR NAME AND
EVEN THOUGH OFF THE RECORD THIS INFO WILL GO ALONG WAY
TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE FAMILYS'BEHAVIOR AND IT IS
PERTENENT AS IT SHOWS HOW LITTLE THESE CHILDREN WERE
CARED FOR AND RESPECTED. IT TOTALLY EXPLAINS WHY ABUSE
BY THE ACCUSED IS NOT A LIE MADE UP BY THESE GIRLS AS
THE GASKILLS ARE TELLIN EVERYONE.
SO DO WHAT IS RIGHT-PICK UP THE PHONE AND TALK TO A DETECTIVE
ON THE CASE AND HELP THESE GIRLS FINNALLY HAVE JUSTICE
SERVED
LET"S MAKE THIS FORUM A FORUM OF ACTION AS WELL
NOT JUST BLOGGING ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW.
To the blogger that does not live in RF your question on
why people are so afraid of her is: she will send you hate
mail, she will spread lies about you and your family,
and chidren no less. She will do everthing she could possibly
think of and then some to hurt you anyway her screwed up mind can think of. The other question about her last job (CALVERY
Church} I attend there frequently. There was a problem with her
work ethics that could not be resolved and the churh sent out a letter rgarding her mutal aggrement with them to leave
her job immediately and I do believe she received severnce
pay for awhile, and yes they wished her well in the letter
but asked the chuch community not to gossip among each other
and yes they were happy to have her leave as it was so evident after she was not there.
AS for ST. Luke I never went there but knoe people that attend sevices there and I was told she falsely accused
a priest (who was innocent-an investigation was done)
of making inappropriate advances of a sexual nature
toward her. The parish was stunned, she was driven out
of the parish as people knew it was a lie and lost friends
and her family even suffered for awhile. Why she did this
no one I talked to knew, but her mind was obviously disturbed and in the gutter I might add.
I also believe the girls. IF you do have something to share
on their behalf as you knew them, like other people that are
contacting RF detectives they will protect your privacy
and will be grateful of info that you can and should give
to help them prosecute this case.You will not be getting
yourself into anything. Your info will be off the record and perhaps even investigated. You will feel so good to at least
be able to that for the girls and what you have to share
can only help them and not harem them. There are so many adults that are accusing these girls of all kinds of things
including serious mental illness and lack of intelligence as well.It is refreshing to finally see people coming forward
and helping these girls and they deserve help as they never
received any help from this family-only suffering and misery.
I do not know this woman personally. I have heard about her
from people I know and nothing they said (Years Ago) was
good. People sighted many of the things I have been reading on this blog, so I am not shocked of these girls suffering
sexual abuse in that home. I heard the girls have no reason to lie as the family is telling everyone who will listen.
It is my opinion that all of these things put together
point to a high probability that the crimed did happen
as what kind of husband is he? He know doubt was nuts or
perhaps he was afraid of her as well and was too passive
and let her call the shots. Which brings me to a point
In would like to make. I would appreciate the people that know the two of them write on this blog if they have thought of this and agree. I think the girls were abused as the husband
can't be quite right in the head as he obviously allowed
his wife to be so notorious in the community with her numerous acts of craziness toward other people she had it out for.
Also, I think the two of them were partners in crime period.
Reading what people who know them say is a real eye opener.
It is obvious it was a business for them to make money.
I read the article in the Oak Park paper that they even managed to run some type of foster care business out of their
home called Tapestry. I can't believe they had the time with
all those needy kids but I think if it involved making money
they did it for profit only. I looked it up on line and what
a surprise the sight was removed and no longer exsists.
I think both of them did not respect these girls, love,
them and be parents to them. Is it any wonder that left to his own devices he took away the girls innocent childhoods for
a reportedly long time (years) and the girls paid a huge
price-their lives were totally ruined by his sickness
and it was giong on after reading this blog while his
wife did everything she could by taking their self esteem
and selfworth by her treatment of them and trashing them
verbably to others even when they were around.
It is too bad she isn't on trial along with him.
She is just as despicable as he is.
These girls deserve justice and if the jury after hearing
what their life was like as a whole they will be sickened
as well. It is hard to read thi stuff without shedding tears
for these girls. I hope they get all the support they can
and I for one (they would not know me) will be sitting
on the prosecution side. Hopefully, when the verdict is read
and justive served for these girls suffering I along with
many will be shedding tears only when that happens the tears
wiil be of joy.
Has anyone suggested RF Detectives set up a hot-line
for people that have info to share can call and give
info they have? I think the RF Dectives or police should set up and post it on line or in the RF newspaper as the Gaskills
had many people come and go in their life (until people
reached the conclusion that they were off and Mary was crazy)
They went through friends like wildfire. That in itself tells
you they were strange.
If RF police did set up a hot-line they will get many tips
as they knew tons of people that knew them during the middle 90's and even presently. They belonged to the RF tennis club
and hung around many of the members there. Mary also was
involved in that child care place in Oak Park that takes
chidren in until they can be reunited with their families
again. I think she also volunteered there.
So with all these contacts there has to be more info on
how they parented the childen they took in and what people
perceived or learned about them from theirsocializing
with the two of them as well as the children.
ATT: River Foresters and Oak Parkers
If you come across and have read this blog for the
first time and feel like many people that have
come to the young victims aide in support, concern
and want the girls to prevail in putting this
foster and or adoptive father in jail where he
belongs as these girls would not make this up
as they are grown now and I'm sure they were or
are expecting their FST parents to say the most
horrible and despicable things to convince
their circle of religious fanatics that the
charges are bogus and these girls are either
mentally ill or just plain liars.
I ask you, why would the girls knowing their FST P's
horrible vindictive nature draw attention to
themselves and read or hear what the couple are
spreading around about them?
These girls are not only extremely brave but
contrary to the FST parents lies they are
intelligent and know right from wrong.
They suffered for a long time and were
silent for obvious reasons.
Think of what they would be up against, not
to mention their tender ages when their life
was upside down. In the beginning, I bet
they thought that was some kind of special
attention with dad as they were so young.
When older they knew they could not tell
anyone as they knew nobody would believe
them based on all their FST parents fans.
Also, predators are more than capable of
keeping them in a state of fear with so
many manipulations that they lived like
this was just their fate and obviously
were so scared that they carried this deep
secret like a noose around their neck.
Help them now. Put yourself in their place
right now. Think about how difficult but
neessary exposure of the accused that did
this to them. They never had anybody but
each other. No one was in their corner, and
even now adults there are adults that beleive a
a perfect FST parent like the defendent could
possibly comitt the crimes he is accused of.
Please consider
even if you are known and are
recognizable to the FST parents stand up to
them and sit with the prosecution
side as that is the right thing to do.
What can Mary really do to you now?
She and her husband are in serious trouble
already. I doubt she will want the police to
come to her door with charges of harasment
or other threating behavior.
Those of you out there that do not know them
but believe these girls are telling the truth
go to court as well on their behalf.
Also, if you have info to share that will help the girls case
in any way, call the RF police and they will protect
your privacy because they have had many dealings
with her themselves and know her to be difficult.
Everyone that cares about abuse of children of
sexually, physically and mentally need to do
whatever you can and help these girls recieve
the justice they truly deserve.
Help remove that noose they have been carrying
around their necks for most of their life.
Don't let them down.
What kind of husband was he? On more than one occasion, I heard him introduce himself as "Mr. Mary Gaskill."
DCFS needs letters wriiten to them as well.
There are no excuses that they could possibly
make to defend themselves on totally not seein
the Gaskills for the leeches they are.
They had four children of their own. The
fact that they had as many as eight foster/adopted
children on top of the four is insanatity.
Did they think the couple had super human
parenting powers?
I will never understand this horrible mistake
that did not have to happen in the first place.
To place eight special needs children some with
serious health problems as well is unreal.
They did not even pick up on the motivation
of this couple. To keep wanting and asking and
actually being allowed to have that many did
not even ring the bell for them.
How did they miss what everyone around them knew
for years? They made foster-care a business to
garner big money from the tax payers of this state
(tax free) and the reason there were and never have
been children placed in the home without special
needs is the difference in money the state pays
as special needs chidren placed in a FST. home
get a whole lot of more money.
What a surprise? How lame are the case-workers
supervisors and up? They obviously did not do
a home-study that required really examinig
why they were so bent on FST care of Sp needs
children when apparently their yougest child was
the same age as the Misty the older sister of
Amber. I'm sure the biological child that was
the youngest had a hard time making room for
a child her age appearing out of the blue
and sharing the attention from the parents.
DCFS should have seen trouble right ther and then.
I'm sure the two girls could have gone to a couple
either with one older child or better yet, no
other children in the home.
What is there explanation by constantly adding
more and more children to the home?
Also, what were they thinking that they let up
to 75 infants and or toddlers over the years
that stayed for short periods as well as long
periods while they had their handsful already?
So many questions that the media has not even
discussed. Someone else on this blog said the
girls should be able to sue the state as well as
a civil suit on the Gaskill family.
I hope they can and are able to sue both.
There is no amount of money that can
make up for their lost childhood and the
suffering they have had to endure thaks to
DCFS and these money grubber parents.
My advice is beside writing letters to the girls
that will support them (maybe the girls can send
them to the judge) or give them to the state
attorney office to let the juge read).
The judge obviously has not evaluated this
case with sound judgement as she denied the
prosecutions request for no bail.
Since when does a defendenet charged with two
class X felonies get no bail because of a bunch of
nut jobs show up in court and write letters
that the man is perfect and above the law
because he like his wife put on a good act
as "a great family man"
Totally not impressed with this judge.
She should receive letters as well.
Thank God this case will be heard by a jury.
To MARCH 21, 11:07PM The comment that the husbans made
on more than one occasion is
really a true admission on
his part as he knew he was
not the one that was in charge
of anything unless his wife
put him in charge of whatever she wanted
out of him that she would benefit from.
He was home holding the fort down
more than she was, as she tried to
be a social butterfly to keep up
the appearances. Also, she took her
bio kids every where while MR. Mary
Gsskill was home with the FST. children.
I read these posts this morning. I have been out of town on
a business trip for a week and have not kept up on this blog.
I have learned so much more than I knew about the Gaskills
who I have encountered at RF TENNIS CLUB in the past.
I aleays saw them with their bio kids and their bio kids
even took tennis lessons with my children (same age groups).
Their children were very nice and my children looked
forward to seeing them at the pool as well besides the
many wonderful children oriented events that the club has
for them to enjoy. Thinking back, when thet started adding
foster children to their home, the children were seldom
there with either parent. I believe I saw Mary once or twice
in passing when the fst. children (the two girls) were little
in towe and she stopped and told me she was now parenting
these two girls (she said temporarily at that time).
I was surprised but I knew them to be quite involved with
their bio kids that I thought it was nice and as long as she
was happy to help other children she should be commended.
I rememder the two girls reminded me of the Olsen twin
girls that were on the show FULL HOUSE and thought they were
so cute. Mary did tell me that the reason she had then temporarily was that they were taken or I forgot relenquished
while thei bio mom was in rehab or something like that.
She went on to say they were FAS babies and were likely to
have learning problems because of FAS. I felt really sad
for the childrens' circunstances but I thought at least
they were in a good home with a loving family as I saw
the couple with their bio children and knew the to be
involved and protective of them at the club.
I never really seen the two girls as often as the bio,
maybe a few times. It has been a long time so it is hard
to remember. Ther were times when I saw the whole fanmily
in passing but I did not see the twolittle girls and I
assumed they were no longer with the family and thought
nothing of it. Later, I learned the girls were staying
for an indefinite amount of time and I still did not see
them that much at the club. I did see them once or a few times
at the kiddie pool while one or two of her bio children
were at the pool for a free swim.
My kid and her bio kids are all grown up now and I still
an a member of the club but the family has not been here
for quite a long time. I totally lost touch except for hearing
from my own children and other people that they had added
quite a few more FST kids to their family and that the little girls were permanetely in their care. I marvelved
at how they could keep up with a houseful of needy chidren
as well as their own and because of the FST children
having Sp needs I felt that they would have many difficulties
keeping up with their own childrens' lives and numerous
activities. I have heard many of the same things
already mentioned on this blog. I am deeply saddened for the
two girls and I will never forget their cute little faces
the day I first them. I hope the girls do get support from our
community, and the community responds with info to authorities not only what they know from the girls early years
but their high-school years as well. I heard they were very
unhappy teens and who could blame them if depression came
their way with a life that through no fault of their own
was a living hell and total nightmare. It is amazing to me
how far they have come from being totally helpless to
now realizing they finally are no longer helplless
and are having their voices heard.
To Rally and or Crabbina, Do you think the girls will testify
in a case like this that would be
very hard to do in a courtroom
full of people, especially
seeing the accused and his wife
who apparently did not make their
life easier from what I have read
on this blog?
Also, will it hurt their case if they
choose no to?
Will the prosecutors prepare them for
the vicious nature of what the defense
will be saying about them from the
exaggerated and fabricated lies that
the family has said and will have their
lawyer say in open court about them?
Also, in these cases is it your
opinion and experience from following
cases like this one that the accused
will have to take the stand?
I am just wondering if the victims do
not testify will it hurt their case?
They are young adults now; but I
would think it would be difficult
reliving the abuse they suffered
as little girls.
Also, will the court let citizens that
want to sit on the prosecution side
to support the girls even if they
may not be in court during the trial?
I know these are a lot of questions
but I personally have never been
involved in a trial case and I do
want to be there for the girls
as this family has their clan of
supporters who are viciously telling
the lies that the Gaskills would like
them to spread around to boost
their portrayal of these girls
as totally deranged and liars.
It sickens me that the girls may not
have many people supporting them
unless people like myself attend
court and sit on the states' side.
I want to thank everyone again for sharing such amazing details for our readers!To the commenter just above: I can only speculate on all of your really great questions (many of which I share). I *hope* that the emotional well-being of the victims is taken into consideration. They are adults now, so I don't know if they will receive less consideration but maybe they could be videotaped in. I am not familiar with that courtroom to know.I would think that they would have to testify in some manner as that will be key for the prosecution and I feel that they could really benefit from character witnesses.If the prosecutor is good, he should prepare them. I think they would be prepared. So far as I can tell, the court is still open to the public and in other cases in other parts of the country, those that want to be there to support the victims are allowed.
Sometimes the issue is that the court dates aren't publically announced -hard to come by the information. Some jurisdictions are completely transparent and you can search criminal cases online for ALL upcoming court dates. Others, like this county do not have that available. I *think* you can call the court and ask if they will disclose that.The worst they could say is No we can't release that information.
Okay, I've printed up the 37 pages (so far) of this blog, and I am sending the package to Judge Love at the Maybrook Courthouse, with a note saying that I want to speak on behalf of the girls, but with the condition that my identity be protected from Mary Gaskill.
Could someone also make sure that DCFS and the RF police and the girls' prosecutor are made aware of this blog?
The next court date, as published in the local papers, is April 26. So far, these published dates have been true.
I preface these comments by saying that any interaction between my family and the Gaskills was terminated more than a decade ago. However, having known the Gaskills and their family for many years,I was initially dumbfounded by Missy and Amber's allegations of sexual abuse by their Father, Rob. You see, I began to think of Rob Gaskill as a victim of domestic abuse. I still believe that he was/is and in his sick little world, he made Missy and Amber, his victims.
He did not confess! There is not written or audio confession. Just a statement by ONE policeman. The media is presenting this as a one sided story. Look into it before you spew lies! These girls if you look at their record with the police have a history of lying to the police! You know nothing about this case. I cannot believe the media is so one sided on this. This case is reminding me of the one in Florida right now except that this guy is not black so no one is there to protest this. Everyone thinks these girls are so innocent. Well look into it further. Not every child is innocent and rushing to judgement is not right. There has been NOTHING reported on the other side. I am so ashamed at the media and the police seem very corrupt. Who gets a report by two girls with a history of lying to the police and doesn't look one speck into the other side of things??? It seems as though the police want him to be guilty. Maybe since it's an election year? They think it will be this huge case or something. Based on what I've been reading in the news I feel something is up here. There is nothing reported on the other side and it looks like they've investigated nothing! Shameful.
This page makes me sick! This man has not even been convicted! The media has been very biased not reporting on the other side at all. As a person who does believe in good and being just and fair you need to look into both sides. Something the police and media have not done at all. I am not saying that this could never happen but I would NEVER EVER say someone is guilty before being proven innocent. Which is what everyone is doing and is not how the law is supposed to work! If this were the other way around there is no way the media would be reporting like this. This is America where you should get a fair trial. I guess not anymore. And people who make accusations when they know nothing about the real case or before a person has been tried are sickening human beings. If you want to make a rush judgement wait at least until this man has been proven guilty or innocent. I am ashamed of everyone on here!
This man did not confess. He pleaded not guilty. There was no confession. There is a statement by a policeman who said he confessed but is there a written or audio confession? I haven't read about one. I watch tv. I know it's nothing like real life but if anything I know how they can twist your words into something different. This guy was stupid for going with the police but if anything I bet he thought he was innocent so why not. That is one thing I always tell people. Don't go with police if you don't have to and don't speak without your lawyer. This can be an example for anyone else in this situation. Never speak without your attorney present. I believe had he not gone there he might not have been in jail. From what I read and having witnessed a false accusation and a true one in my life you need to have a good lawyer and don't say anything without them. In both cases the family's lives were completely ruined. If this man is innocent and it's anything like what I've seen in the past, this family will lose everything. FYI this can happen to anyone. I actually thought it would be nice one day to be a foster parent one day but now after reading about this case there is no way in ____ I'd ever do that. I hope that each side is represented fairly because if this man is innocent he will probably lose everything, reputation, money, family…if these girls are lying they won't have lost anything. You say that there are plenty of cases on here where a man did this and he was a foster parent but there are also plenty of cases where children lie. We can't just rush to judgement because these were children. They are making these accusations as adults and if they are true then that is very sad but we don't know so both sides need to be represented fairly.
Sarah, I do not know how long you have known this family.
Yes, we all KNOW this man has not been convicted
and innocent until proven guilty.People that have
come forward with their EXPERIENCES and WITNESSING
FIRSTHAND the family as it evolved over an EXTENDED
period of time feel compelled obviously to come
forward and reflect on a couple that portrayed
themselves as fst. parents that were too amazing
for words.
Go back on this blog and read CRABBINA
She is an expert on this blog her name appears on the
homepage of this forum).
In your outrage expressed you say "this is not how the
the law is supposed to work" How is it that this blog
expressing concern and support of these two girls
with real life experiences as well as witnessing
how the girls were not valued even early on by this
this couple, any different than what the Gaskill
Groupies have and are doing defending the accused
as being so pure and pristine and absoluely the
best father that ever walked the planet?
They have written character refs to the judge,
they have crammed the court room even breaking
court rules by standing up when the accused enters
or leaves, and go around spreading the mosr awful
demining comments about these two girls being so
mentally disturbed and total liars and are even
still telling people about the girls having FAS
at birth.
Many of these people NEVER WITNESSED HEARD IN PERSON
how these girls were devalued by this family.
(PROBABLY NONE) as the Gaskills always manage to
attract new friends that get sucked into their web
of lies and USE these people to place them on
a new pedastal as they have been knocked off
so many it isn't even funny.
Read Mar. 19 6:14 PM-"Relaying isolated incidents
may seem weak but when circumstantial evidence is
cumalative, the weakness of such evidence is
strengthened as MORE PEOPLE COME FORWARD SO
we can help PAINT THE COMPLETE PICTURE"
Sorry you don't like the picture that is now
being PAINTED of this horrible and deplorable
case that is the outcome from many of the examples
and reasons that people have known and been AWARE
of for along time.These people want to help
because many of us just stopped sociallizing
with them when we should have reported our
concerns to DCFS. In our defense at the time,
we did not report what we saw and heard as Mary
would have denied it antway and if she KNEW
YOUR IDENTITY she is so disturbed that you
and your family would have HELL TO PAY>
Do I need to say more?
Officer Rutz who has been in River Forest a long time
and was quoted as saying that everything he knew or perceived of Mr.Gaskill was that he was well known and
liked in the community. I would think that if Officer Rutz
was at the station or even called in on the case as he "KNEW" Mr. Gaskill to be an upstanding and well known citizen,
he would have had the police when investigating the case
prior to Mr. Gaskill's arrest, warned that in order to
even make the arrest their needed to be credible testimony and or evidence that would warrant an arrest to begin with.
I really don't think the dept.would allow an officer to
investigate and question someone in custody without another
officer present. The officer that stated what Mr. Gaskill said
had no reason to say that statement as worded for two
reasons: 1. it is such a perverted statement that I can't
imagine making up. A biting fetish? Really? How sick is
that for a officer to say? Even if it is not in writing,
the RF police would not make up something that sick just
to trump up a case because they enjoy setting up an individual
to face serious charges.2. I'm sure even if some of them never even heard or knew Mr. Gaskill they were probably told that
he was a model citizen. During their questioning and investigating if anything , the charges had to really hold
water so to speak, as they were probably hoping to begin
with that the girls were lying so there would not be a case
or an arrest of Mr. Gaskill. It is my humble opinion that if anything they were more likely to do everything they could
to be careful in the investigation because they themselves
probably were stunned that the case had merit and that the
girls ( if they lied in the past to them) were not
lying this time. We do not know everything they know
and it seems more likely than not that Mr. Gaskill
made the statement he did before his attorney arrived
and then back peddled and said he did not. He know
doubt when making the statement was admitting that
he did abuse the girls and probably thought that maybe
besides the girls testimony the police probably had
and maybe still do (like knowing something about his body
parts) that he was finally caught and figured he would
be getting arrested anyway. He had to be stressed out by
just being arrested in the first place. After hearing the charges he made a incriminating statement that seems very
far fetched an officer or officers made up. If anything
because he was well known they themselves probably were
shocked and saddened that he was arrested for such serious crime. He says he did not confess but the statement is an
addmission of guilt and such statements even if not a written admiision can and will be used against him. It is not worth
an officer making up such a statement because the officer
just wants to make the case go to a grand jury. What is in
it for Rf police dept.to have a case like this from a citizen in their own back yard? I seriously doubt they were gleefull
to see Mr. Gsaskill in the position he was in,but the law
does not discriminate between a model citizen or a citizen
that is always in trouble. Sadly, they had to charge and
arrest him and a grand jury had to judge if this case
had merits and they did; so it is not as simple as saying
that he is in trouble for what he said but other components as well. The case is sad for many that know Mr. Gaskill as well.
To Mar.23-12: 29 pm–Thank you for being such a great example
of what people can do seperately and collectively when
they see a side of a case that has many pieces that when
pieced togrther, expose a sad picture of the lives these
children endured for years. When looking at just what has been revealed here by people that feel a need to express what
encounters (some more than others)that are basically the
same observations and experiences with the way the
chidren especially these two girls,were belittled and
almost distained by the mental and emotional abuse by
the mother alone, it is easy to see this couple really
if they had the money they felt they needed would have
no doubt would have NEVER become foster parents to begin with it.
The picture emerging is also making it seem very believable
that sexual abuse occured in this home that really should
not have ANY children placed with them by DCFS.
It is also apparent as stated that these children held
little or no value to either couple accept for the income
they receieved over these many years.
The accused sounds like he may have had deep seated issues
that made him feel less of a man by his dominering wife
who was known to be so much of a powerful figure in the
household that as somene said the accused introduced himself
on more than one occasion as Mr. MARY GASKILl. There is always
some truth revealed when someone makes a statement that
he thought was perhaps funny but really is sad as what
husband would like to admit to the fact that he is not
in charge but his wife is. Mr. Gaskill probably had built
up hostility within himself and perhaps abused the girls
as he could then have some "manly" control in his life that
his wife never really let him have. His wife in a sense
created a monster by her taking on the manly role and
this man as someone else said suffered from domestic
verbal and female dominence (abuse without physical
actions.)It is a great first step by printing this blog
even as it evolves which I'm sure more people will want
to share their personal negative exp. with the way these
girls were treated even as little tiny girls and their
whole life with these fst. pts. The judge will have some
reading of the Gaskiil book (without simply judging them by the
COVER) that they want everyone to read only and walk away
and be so impressed with their (cover-up) that people really
go no further and read the sorid details of the poor job
they did by the children placed in your care.
I personally am so ANGRY with DCFS AND I and others will
be contacting them and they too will read the blogs on thi forum. Also, I have spoken with RF police and I,m sure
they are expanding their direction into this couples not
so pristine reputation (especially the wife and her crazy
behavior) including lying herself (maybe to make her husband
jealous) by false accusations that a priest made sexual
advances toward her) PROVEN NOT TRUE. Ironic as she believes
that these girls are lying by coming forward to defend
themselves. IU hope everone that have expressed support
for the victims take actions as the court case needs the
whole book to be read and not just the beautiful cover
th Gaskils want the court to read without knowing the
history that indeed made this a home where sex abuse
could and we will use the word "aledgedely took place"
Yes, the defendent is innocent until proven guilty-
but all the facts need to be considered before a verdict
can be made. That is why it is important that the court
have all the pieces and base this case on its totally
not just the few pieces the Gaskills want the court to
know as THAT IS NOT FAIR TO THE VICTIMS who deserve
the Gaskills be evaluated fully so then and only then
the jury can make its' decision fairly and not just one-
sided.
I agree with the above post."That it is not fair to the victims" if the Gaskills are not fully evaluated in
character as well as the treatment that was apparently
witnessed by people that knew them well and even those
that knew them for a time and thought their role as
fst. parents was not the role of truly selfless,loving
tireless advocates for the children in their care
especially these two girls. The court needs all info.
so they can put all the pieces together to understand
how this may have happened as the home life left a lo
to be desired and was not the home these girls could
have thrived in. The court has already been getting a picture from the Gaskill supporters that believe the home could not have been nothing but a loving, caring,and dedicated parents
not only to the bio children but ALL the children in their care. the court has also received letters of support filled
with glowing accounts hoew this dad is and family man
that should be held in the highest esteem and is being
falsely accused by two liars who are disturbed.
Let the court see both pictures and form their opinion
based on the entire pieces of this puzzle that begs to
be based on everthing as a whole. Then and only then
will the girls be on equal footing with the defendent that
has his supporters only paint one side of this case and that
the girls are not tob taken credible as they are liars,
disturbed and as evil as they come. Somewhere in this mess
they are answers that can only emerge if the totality of
these girls lives are factored in to explain how even a model
citizen could end up being the predetor that this dad is
accused of in spite of how outstanding he has been regarded in the community. If the girls are proved to be mentally ill
and gravely disturbed and have made false statements regarding
their sad lives the state is more than capable of making
sure that this man not be punished and will be vindicated.
None of this can happen fairly for either party if all
the pieces of this picture are not there for the jury to
evaluate and come to a just decision in this case.
It should be everyones' hope that there be a fair trial
that have all the pieces tp put together in order to
render a verdict that is right and just.
Give the jury everthing that they need to know before they
deliberate this case based on all facts and all character
witnesses for the accused as well as the victims.
Justice will prevail only if the jury hears everything
about both sides. The scales of justice need to be equal
when the jurors deliberate and make a decision on the merits that were given to them in court.
Amber (5 or 6 YO at the time) would be sitting on Rob's lap and he would call her a moron. When I asked why he said that, he would say "She is an idiot, why not?" I would say that this was not a nice thing to say and he would just laugh. This was not a single occurrence. At the same time, his wife would say "Doesn't he (Rob) look like Alfred E Neumann?" Another stream was "I know he is Jewish-listen to his Mother's and Father's first names. Only Jewish people have those names."
Amen! Let the court system get a clear picture of both
sides of this case evenly. Court cases of this
nature have to evaluate everthing that is presented
on both sides. Most times victims like these girls
especially fst. care victims are not given any
support as they do not have a support system in place
to begin with. Unlike the accused who has support,
family and friends supporting him and speaking on his
behalf, these girls need people that can help
them with their exp with the girls as well as thier
observances of the interactions and behavior of
the interactions that many on this blog noted
and can attest to.
It would be unfair and unjust for the victims not
to be given the same respect and support as the accuser.
The prosecution unlike the defense always has this
problem when these kind of cases are tried in a court
because the family depicts them now as outsiders
and not as children that were truly a real part of
this family from the beginning. A trial can only
be fair when each side is heard not just one side.
This is horribly painful for both sides.
Compassion for everyone in this case is needed
and necessary as cases like this have far reaching
effects for the accused and the victims .
I pray for both sides that justice will be made
by a fair and balanced trial that people can
respect at the end because each side was given
the same rights and support to have their voices
heard. If you do nothing else, and believe in
prayer, pray fo a Fair and Just trial for both
sides and let God do the rest.
It is true that Mary Gaskill did tell anyone who would listen personal facts about her foster children. I don't know if that alone is representative of continual emotional abuse in the home. I think what we need is someone who was very close with them and in the home often to come forward and give a scenario of what it was like for the family with every day living. Personally, when I think of it now, I cannot imagine that any home would run smoothly and adequately with so many children, some the same age and some with disabilities. The more I think of it the more I am also angry with myself. How did this happen? What could I have personally done? If DCFS didn't think this was cause for concern, then who am I to question?
I too like the blogger above heard Rob (not just MARY) make disparging remarks of particularly Amber. (Mary talked
negatively about both girl in my presence even with the
girls close enough to hear). However, Rob would say how
"stupid" Amber looked more than once. I am not surprised
what I have just read on this blog calling her
an idiot while she was sitting on his lap.
This verbal abuse early on and later only made Amber
a child that thought she really was stupid and I really
believe her stuttering and stuggle to express herself
was due to the impact of her low self-esteem and anxiety
by the stress of hearing over and over that she was an idiot
and stupid. If he said that in public what else did he or
Mary say to these girls in private. I am convinced they
both verbally abused them by bringing FAS up to the their
whole life. The fact that Rob in public said insults about
Amber explains how she easily could be preyed upon by hi
even at the age of 12 as reported. He knew she was ill
equipped to express herself and she had so many years of being told how stupid she was and looked it would be highly doubtfall
that she would come forward and tell anyone in authority
because she though no one would believe her as why would
they believe someone as stupid as her over her BRILLIANT
AND OH SO HANDSOME Fst.dad. This sheds alot of light
on this case and the girls should be questined about
how they were spoken to behind closed doors as well as
in person. How despicable is it to take a childs' self esteem
away and cause her to view herself inferior to everyone
around her. Is it no wonder he went the next step and preyed
upon a little girl (girls) with the MOST DESPICABLE AND
HENIOUS ACT that could possibly be done to a chid (CHILDREN).
That is why ALL THE PIECES OF THE MANY DARK AND SICK
treatment of these girls NEED TO BE HEARD IN COURT as
even a child could piece this case together and conclude
the girls are NOT LYING. TOO BAD IF MANY OF YOU DON'T
LIKE HEARING AN OPINION AS HE IS PRESUMED INNOCENT.
However, based on this couple that DCFS deemed qualified
and truly WONDERFUL fst. Parents, their ACTIONS SPEAK
LOUD AND CLEAR-THEY FAILED THESE GIRLS MISERABLY and
I for one think these girls have been victimized by
this couple and it is MORE THAN LIKELY THAN NOT THAT
THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE POINT TO GUILTY AS CHARGED>
AGAIN I KNOW PEOPLE WILL SAY HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT-
TO ALL OF YOU I SAY -GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND
AND START DIGGING DEEPER AND PUT EVERTHING YOU
ARE READING ON THIS BLOG AND ASK YOURSELF IF YOU
REALLY SEE HOW THIS COULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IN
THE HOLY HOUSE OF THE GASKILLS?
I like Mar. 24 5:53 felt the same way about DCFS.
I feel very bad about myself for not reporting the times I was in the home and the unfair treatment of the fst children was way
differnt and very apparent. These children lived by a whole set of rules not enforced to the bio children. When Misty
and Amber were little (approx ages MIsty 6 Amber 4) when
the family had company over of any kind for any occassion
the girls were not even seen. Instead, they had an extremely
early bedtime ( 5:o'clock 5:30) whether they wanted to or not,
This was a red flag at the time as children by those ages
are not READY to go to sleep; plus they were (girls) missing
out on the fun the bio children were having with the company's
children.If Mary was questioned she would say they were over
stimulated or they were super earlt risers and needed to
be in bed early. The girls bedrooms were in the attic bedrooms
on the third floor. Isolated, and I do not remember ever seeing
them come downstairs at all .We as ousiders that did not live there day in and day out
can only speculate that if we witnessed unfair treatment
dispariging words, and other slights these girls received
in the presence of company, we can only conclude that
this was no doubt consitent with their daily living and
without others around it no doubt was worse.
I like many others thought of what just hit you now, that
is many of us simply were troubled and baffled that
a household with even more very needy children could no way
be managed to the advantage of these children individully and
collectively to improve their life in any way. Rob never worked
late hours and came home to his second job which was
way more stressful and 10 times harder. Mary put him to
work and WORK he did. We all now look back and ask what
we should of done and could of done so you are not alone
and unfortunately have alot of company. Do I wish now
that I and others that knew things were not what the Gaskills
wanted portrayed of themselves reported to DCFS what we
already knew and what we surmised was a home that was really
not a home but a boarding house? ABSOLUTELY. Hind-sight is
20 20. In defense of people that did not buy their happy
ever happy home for these poor kids (myself included) many
of us stayed as far away as possible as we did not want to know
or witness anymore than we already had. We thought DCFS
must be checking and that if DCFS were happy with the way things were then it was on their heads and not ours.
This is really making me want to get involved in outing
all the horrible MISTAKES DCFS does on a regular basis and
this has been a big WAKE UP CALL. I live chidren too much
to allow DCFS not to be held accountable for their total
lack of ACCOUNTABILITY and I am already making it known
that I and many others will be expecting them to come to the aid of these girls rather than make PHONY EXCUSES FOR
their EXTREME INADEQUCIES.If you feel that angry with yourself
now, do something for the girls. Stand up for them.
The accused has many delusional people standing up for
him and I bet they are mostly new friends (they changed friends
so often) and are disparaging these young girls every chance
they get as This couple to them are SUPER HERO DAD AND MOM.
Sadly, they have fallen for this familys' FALSE PERSONA and
believe they are GOD LOVING PEOPLE. Makes you want throw
up doesn't it?
Whenever there was a dinner party with Friends, Amber, Missy and Another were locked up on the third floor; the biological children were always at the parties. Furthermore, Missy was the caretakes of Amber and the Other from a very, very early age (less than 10 years old) every night. She bathed them and put them to bed and then the three of them were locked up on the third floor.
This family life is something out of a sick movie. Anyone remember Cybil? This is awful. Are there children still living in this house?
Well, after reading all this, I can thank God that Rob was not black because the rush to judgment would be even worse. We're all going to have to wait until the trial to know the truth. Police, God bless them, have unfortunately shown a capacity to misconstrue, mislead and sometimes outright lie in order to shape public opinion. We would still have death penalty in the state if police departments from across the entire state didn't railroad people into false confessions, leading questions and constructed recollections. The juicy tidbit about a "biting fetish" which is the kind of viral information that plays well in the news media could very well have come out of a marathon questioning session that goes like this:
Good Cop: "Mr. Gaskill, can you think of any misunderstanding that could lead these confused girls to make such accusations?"
Gaskill: "I don't know, I don't know. Sometimes I play with them and they bite me?"
Good Cop: "I can see that. So you're just playing with them, right? Where do they bite you?"
Gaskill: "Not on any private parts, but all over, you know, feet, hands. It's all just for fun."
Good cop: "Sometimes it's easy to get aroused this kind of thing, you know."
Gaskill: "Oh I know, my wife and I sometimes bite each other in a playful fetish kind of way."
Bad Cop Writes in His Notebook: "Gaskill confesses he has a biting fetish and gets sexually aroused when allowing his children to bite him all over".
The facts that are and have been emerging from people
on this blog with exp. with knowing this family
and witnessing verbal abuse as well as treatment that was unfair and very different from the bio kids EXPLAINS
alot on how this home was not a home for these girls and
anyother children in their care. How the state put
so many kids with sp needs in this home is moronic.
This blog has had many examples that point to a couple
that viwed these children as meal tickets and were never
really parenting these children to begin with.
It explains how abuse of these girls EASILY and HIGH
PROBABILITY that the abuse happened and these girls
are NOT LYING. I hope the girls tell the state attorney office
how it really was growing up in a house where you were
insulted, unrespected and mistreated because you were
not viwed as areal part of the family, your worth was
monteray only and years of suffering from mental abuse
went on (simultainiously with despical sex abuse as well.
This couple deserve to be investigatedd thourughly,
people need to not only blog that know stuff but talk
to authorities as a picture of the life these girls led
points to the picture how sexual abuse happened for the
extended time the girls have come forward as young
women who are finally free and are now strong enough
to stand up for the horrible suufering they endured for
many years by the predator as well as the suffering
and crel treatment by BOTH these so called FST PARENTS.
Tthes two need to be held accountable. One needs to brought to trial and hopefully found guilty and punished. THe other
the cruel crazy mother should have the state REMOVE the
children in her care as she is NOT A MOTHER IN ANY
SENSE OF THE WORD TO THESE POOR CHILDREN. SHE and her
husband the PREDATOR have and still look at having these
chidren in their home for MONETARY GAINS PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
http://oakpark.suntimes.com/news/11341487-418/accused-foster-parent-free-after-bond-lowered.html
Domph told Love that Gaskill will be living in an apartment, not his River Forest home, where his wife, Mary, continues to care for several children
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SEVERAL CHILDREN
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Rally or Crabbina –
If DCFS investigated this home. The children would be subjected to a medical exam and interview. I am guessing DCFS was satisfied with the results of this investigation.
I find that alarming because the 5 girls in the Gaskill care looked to be under 6; and lets not forget they all have special needs.
I would appreciate any thoughts your have on this?
Anonymous 12:48 pm – this is Crabbina. Thank you very much for posting – and thank you to all who have posted, even those who swear that Mr. Gaskill is being framed. You are obviously not aware that your faith in his innocence and your insulting of the children and police force is as damning in its way as those who are calling him and his wife out after many years of seeing abusive behavior and doing nothing to stop it.
In any case, we have no personal knowledge of these people or this community and we are glad we can provide an open forum for those to post about it, whichever "side" you are on. As is clear from the purpose of this blog, we are on the side of justice and to give voice to the voiceless and powerless, and in this case it means the CHILDREN. I personally find it hard to believe that children who grew up in a household as has been described in detail by many who have posted here would dare risk a court case were there not some (or total) truth to their allegations, but that is just my opinion.
As for DCFS, again, I am not familiar with their regulations in your state so I can't answer your question. However, if this is the DCFS that placed children in this family over the years, I would have grave reservations about their basic judgment, wouldn't you? I do not think it is ever a good idea for SN children, especially if they are very young, to be subjected to placement in a home with many other SN children. How can they possibly get the attention and treatments they need? But as we all know, DCFS is overworked and often called upon to make judgments that in retrospect are horribly if not fatally flawed. They may have been sucked in by the alleged Gaskill charm and/or pretense of expertise. Or there may have been other factors at play. I just don't know. Hopefully all will be revealed in court.
To the person who blogged that thins that people that
are putting together the overall picture that has emmerged
from people that know and been around this family to make
or form an OPINION if the home lent itself to sexual abuse
POSSIBLY OR LIKELY in probability as the picture that is
and continues to emerge are parents that could and did not
repect the privacy of these girls and actually ( Rob was
witnessed by many calling Amber derogatry adjs. and both
parents would make them have a super early bedtime aand
locked them on the third floor ( bedrooms) when entertaing
while their bio kids could enjoy the company and go to sleep when they were tired. Their yougest bio kid is the same age
as Misty, why was she not put to bed early so she would
be out of the way as well? Funny, you bless the police and
then go on to say that if he were black he would receive
worse treatment. Also, you accuse them of micontruing info
to affect public opinion. You are wrong on both statements.
First, saying if he were black implies we have a RACIST police
force here in RF. Also, the police in RF have solved and have
many cases that the arrested person is questioned to see to
get more info and we as citizens have NEVER heard them put
out statements to justify an arrest and or have the state attorney office influenced to have the person placed in
custody before a bond hearing and placed in jail.
What possibly is in it for RF police treat a local
well liked and known citizen (UNLIKE HIS PSYCHO WIFE) and
spread rumors and or take glee that they even had to arrest
Mr. Gaskill at all? I'm sure like many in the community
they themselves felt bad that before they even brought him to
the station the day he was arrested, they investigated the
info and accusation by the victims for several weeks as they
would NOT ARREST a citizen unless facts pointed to there
being evidence gathered that supported the victims accusations,
and arresting the suspect to tell him why he was arrested
and that they were formally charging him with the offese
he was arrested for in the first place. I'm sure MR.Gaskill
was treated well (RACE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT). Mr. Gaskill
had to be nervous and whatever he said that perhaps incriminated himself without realizing it maybe came from
the fact that he figured since he was arrested and getting
booked the police knew a lot of info and a plausable explanation could have simply he carried this around with him so long and felt guilty and until hi attorney arrived he
might have even confessed. THis is conjecture of course,
but no different than the conjecture you stated.
You also made up a dialogue that you even had questions
and answers made up to prove how unscrupoulos RF police
and dtectives are. Where did you get that dialouge from?
It makes me wonder if you got it from the horses' mouth.
Also, it seems like THIS IS THE SPIN ON HIS STATEMENT THAT
AN OFFICER SWORE UNDER OATH LIED AND PURGERED HIMSELF BY
PURPOSEFULLY TRYING TO MAKE UP SOMETHING SO SICK TO MAKE
SURE Mr. Gaskill a cizen of RF well respected, go to trial
because RF dets. love to see one their well known citizens
being falsely accused and having to face a trial that the
Grand jury felt there was ENOUGH there to go to a regular
trial. YA- that makes TOTAL SENSE. Your DIALOUGE BETWEEN
OFFICER and ACCUSESD SMACKS OF JUST WHAT THE GASKILLS
WANT FLOATING OUT THERE. As for you get a reality check.
Rf police ARE NOT NOR EVER HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF SETTING
UP SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY LOVE SEEING PEOPLE SUFFER NEEDLESSLY
AND A WELL LIKED CITIZEN OF RF JUST MAKES IT THAT MUCH BETTER.
How many DADs Of GIRLS OR BOYS (AGES 4 and up)
BITE their kids all over becuse they LIKE IT?
Why?? would a dad think that that is appropriate behavior
in any way shape or form? Also, would not that give the girls
an example that biting is a fun activity to participate in?
If so, was he not getting them ready to "BITE" him in the future? Totally LAME EXCUSE and sorry but I for on am not buying it? Anyone else ???????????????????????????????????
I have known the family for several years and have witnessed many similar instances of verbal and emotional abuse to those recounted by previous posters. It is encouraging to see so many coming forward in support of Missy and Amber. I hope that those who have helpful information will not hesitate to share it with the authorities.
To the foolish people spouting slander and FAS factoids, please stop.
I find it hard to believe the accused thought it was a
fun activity that the girls enjoyed to bite him
everywhere (of course not any where near his private parts)
and he allowed this inappropiate fun activity to let
the girls do because they thought it was fun. Is he kidding?
If he said that to show what a fun playful dad he was to make them happy it is out of the realm of reality.
Since when do parents allow such behavior because the child
or children like it? If they liked and thought it was fun to set him on fire I suppose because he is such a fun dad
he would allow that as well? Does he really believe anyone
would think wow why didn't my kids think of that fun activity?
The other blog before me called it a Lame excuse for the behavior. I call it Perverted behavior and if this was
fun for them it was no doubt a prelude for what was to
come later. The thing is I do not believe the girls ever
wanted to bite him for fun ever. I believe this statement
if he made it regarding his "biting fetish" was his way
of admitting biting took place and it is not hard to go
a step further that their biting did include "other body
parts" only not because the girls liked it and it was "fun"
It was he himself that liked it and it was fun for him.
It was no doubt one of the ways he preyed upon on
them and really believed in his sick mind that the girls
liked it and he was pleasing them. If indeed he said these
statements it does not take a genius to figure out that
the only "fun" derived from this sick behavior was the
"fun" he enjoyed and liked as part of his sick abuse of
these two girls. His statement was very revealing and
spoke volumes on how indeed he viewed his predatory
nature and truly in his sick mind convinced himself that
his victims liked it and thought it was fun.
Personally, I would hate to hear anymore of his so called
fun activities that he justified and in his mind he believed
the girls liked. Too distubing to think about. Only these
girls had to live it and had to think about it alone in silence
and carry it around with them for years taking away their child
hood and innocent lives.
Thankfully, they have come forward and hopefully
over time they will be able to put all of this behind
them as much as possible. These girls need to get to a place
in their lives where they can live and replace their
awful memories with new memories that lie ahead of them.
They need support and help to free themselves of what they carried around too long. They will and They can set themselves
free as they have already taken a very important part of
freeing themselves by coming forward to set themselves
free. Freedom is a powerful word. These girls have and will
always know that they themselves were and are extremely
brave and in the end the freedom of this nightmare will
make a huge difference in their lives and they will
know and experience what they deserved for so long-
Freedom to live the life that they were so tragically
denied in their young lives.
ANY parent that encourages their children to bite ANYONE
does not deserve the title of PARENT to begin with.
When children are toddlers because they don't know
any better sometimes a younger sibling (the toddler)
tries or suceeds to bite an older sibling. We as parents
and of course the older sibling let the child know that
biting is a no no and that they hurt their sibling
(who is usually screaming and crying) and show them
their brother or sister who was on the receiving end
bite marks and how the act of biting is not acceptable
and feel guilty for making their sibling cry because
the bite hurts them and make the child fully aware
that the act of biting is wrong. I had a toddler
( age two) who did that to his older sister (age 4)
at the time. To say his sister was upset with her
baby brother who she adored (until he bit her), is
an understatement. We quickly showed her toddler
how he hurt his sister and explained that what he
did was not nice and he then felt bad, kissed his
sister's boo-boo and never bit her or any other
child again.
I would think that a parent would certainly never
let a child bite anyone ever, let alone the parent
himself. To say that the children thought it was
fun and since they liked it, were able to bite
his hands and feet (God knows were else) is the
most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of.
Does Mr. Gaskill really believe that anyone hearing
his story on how he allowed the girls to bite him
because they thought it was fun and he obliged
because after all they liked it? How stupid does
he think other people are and the police no less?
If he could make up such a far-fetched story like
that (according to the blogger that gave a totally
crazy account of the dialouge that was probably
twisted in his words by the police to set him up)
what else did he say in his defense as a n excuse
for ant other inapproriate behavior?
How sad that he was allowed to be a fst parent
eight times over. If he thinks this or any other
ridiculous explanation for his interaction and
"play time" with these girls is believable he
is sadly mistaken. I wonder if his wife believes
his story. She no doubt does as she by all accounts
is as sick as he is. DCFS, I hope you are getting
the picture here, YOU WERE and ARE RESPONSIBLE for
letting these children Fall through the cracks of
DCFS into a HELL that NO CHILD should ever have
to experience or live through. I have a question
for you (DCFS) WHY does the other sick parent, the
monster mom still HAVE CHILDREN IN HER CARE?
Wake up! The woman has issues and is sick also.
The state is even PAYING for the poor children
you have placed in her care. Is it any wonder that
everone with half a brain know the child-care system
is totally broken and DCFS should stand for: Don't
Care For Shit about children in state care.
I hope people become pro-active and keep the
spot light and heat on all of you who fail
children and are partners with creeps like
this family that RUIN CHILDREN'S LIVES.
Bloggers who feel that those who have written about these disturbing, cruel, and unjust actions and words by Mr. Gaskill and his wife, Mary, say that we are denying him the right of 'innocence until proven guilty' and 'convicting him in the court of public opinion'. Your statements are not logical or truthful. We are remembering a home in which we saw mistreatment of the adopted/foster children in our presence by our very eyes. Now speaking entirely for myself, understand that I am chagrined that I was duped for so many years by Rob and Mary Gaskill before I wised up; and secondly, I carry guilt that I never reported any of these incidences to DCFS, There are no winners here; just many good people who were silent and did not do the right thing.
THIS BITING STORY BY THE PERSON THAT POSTED A MADE UP CONVERSATION
BETWEEN THE ACCUSED AND POLICE OFFICERS TO DEMONSTRATE HOW
THE ACCUSED REPORTED STATEMENT (OR RUMORED STATEMENT) ABOUT
THE BITING FETISH THE ACCUSER SUPPOSEDLY ADMITTED HE HAD IS
A SPIN THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE GASKILL COUPLE WANT OUT THERE TO
MAKE PEOPLE THINK THE POLICE TWISTED HIS WORDS AROUND TO
HAVE A STATEMENT TO PUT OUT THERE TO DISGUST THE PUBLIC
AND INFLUENCE THIS CASE AND CAUSE PEOPLE TO MISTRUST THE
RF POLICE IS NOT ONY MORONIC BUT INSINUATES THAT WE THE PUBLIC
ARE MORONS AS WELL. THERE HAS NOT BEEN ONE PERSON I HAVE
TALKED TO THAT READ THE BLOG THAT BELIEVES THIS TAKE ON HOW A
STATEMENT LIKE THAT IS MADE UP BY THE POLICE. POLICE THAT TWIST
WORDS AROUND SO THEY HAVE A JUICY STATEMENT TO PUT OUT
THERE TO GAIN SUPPORT THAT THIS GUY IS PERVERTED.
THE PERSON THAT POSTED THAT MADE UP STORY WAS NOT THERE.
HOW IS IT THAT HE REALLY BELIEVES AND WANTS OTHERS TO BELIEVE
THERE IS ANY TRUTH TO THIS MADE FOR TV STORY ABOUT CROOKED
POLICE OUT THERE THAT GO AROUND MAKING WORDS A PERSON
IN CUSTODY INCRIMINATE AND GO AROUND TELLING SUCH
INFO TO THE MEDIA TO INFLUENCE THE CASE THAT WAS DECIDED
BY THE STATE ATTORNEY OFFICE AND THAT THE ACCUSED IS NOW FACING
TRIAL FOR SERIOUS CLASS X FELONIES PERPETRATED ON TWO MINORS.
THE BLOGGER HAS TO BE IN THE GAKILL CAMP AND UNFORTUNATELY
FOR THIS POOR SOUL IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE GASKILL PUPPETS
THAT IS BEING USED BY THE COUPLE TO PUT THE POST ON THIS
BLOG TO BEGIN WITH. PERHAPS, THE PERSON IS A FAMILY MEMBER OR
THE NUT CASE WIFE HERSELF. NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE NO ONE IS
BUYING THE BITING STORY THAT SUPPOSEDLY WAS MADE UP BY
RF POLICE TO COME UP WITH THE STATEMENT THE BLOGGER CONCLUDED
WAS WRITTEN DOWN IN A NOTEBOOK WITH A TOTALLY MADE UP STATEMENT
THAT THE OFFICER MADE UP BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE POLICE DO.
HOW STUPID DO YOU (BLOGGER) THINK PEOPLE ARE? THANKFULLY, NOT
AS STUPID AS YOU. MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION? WAKE UP AND GET AWAY
FROM THIS FAMILY ASAP. IF NOT, YOU TOO WILL AND ARE ALREADY A VICTIM
YOURSELF. AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU WILL HAVE TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR,
AND CALL YOURSELF A MORON.
I too feel EXACTLY like the blogger March 27 12:13 PM. Many, Many people like you and my family who distanced ourselves and no longer socialized with them on any level did so because we WITNESSED as well as HEARD abusive treatment that was grossly apparent and UNFAIR to these girls both in how they were treated (second class even worse) and verbally abused by their so called mother that ALWAYS talked about
their private issues an struggles and how screwed up they were because of FAS. We too, were duped for awhile and carry a nagging case of "WHAT IFS?" now that we totally know
and BELIEVE the girls are NOT LYING. I personaly have What if I did report them to DCFS? What if I would not have let Mary,s disturbed nature deter me from not only reporting but even identifying myself to DCFS and told them that what I saw and heard was absoluely true and I so WISH now I did.
You are right. THere are no winners here; just many, many good people that distaned ourselves altogether to alleviate are own struggle with knowing these girls deserved better but instead walked away and hoped DCFS would find out from the girls themselves, or someone else would report them.
I feel guilty as hell now looking back that I and my husband jumped ship on the family totally, but we should have been smarter and reported what we knew so an investigation
could have taken place to get these girls off the ship
and placed in a loving home that they deserved and were being denied because we did not do the right thing. I feel sick
over what I should have done and I always will. To think what people like you, myself and many others did by not taking this couple to task and confronting them with DCFS for the
phonies they were is something we all have to live with it. There is a lesson here: when you see a wrong-do everthing possible to make it right.(even if you are intimidated by a bully the likes of a Mary Gaskill as in my case was a factor as well). You are so right about no winners here. I feel
like a loser for not doing the right thing and it is my hope by telling the police about my exps. and the awful parents they were will help the girls back up what I'm sure they have had to describe about how they were treated growing up
that led in my eyes and many others that they suffered
sexual abuse at the hands of a man that like his wife
should NEVER HAVE BEEN A FOSTER PARENT IN THE FIRST PLACE. ALL, we can do that KNOW A LOT is SHARE what we witnessed first hand and not remain SILENT A SECOND TIME.
Letters also on behalf of the girls to the judge, state attorney office will also help the girls as well.
First, take the time THIS TIME and TELL are RF police
dept what you know and at least then and only then
you like I can at least now FEEL LIKE YOU DID THE RIGHT
THING FOR THESE GIRLS AT THIS CRITICAL JUNCTURE IN THEIR
LIVES THAT WILL HELP THEM HEAL AS WELL AS BE FINALLY
HEARD AS THEY NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO BE HEARD LIVING
IN THE HELL HOLE WITH THE OH SO PERFECT WHITE PICKET
FENCE.
I agree with 12:13…I was once in the inner circle and was often confused by much of what I witnessed. It took awhile to wise up and make the decision to pull away, a tricky dance as there were relationships built between the children, as well as the reality of the family's widespread involvement and influence in the church we attended. Once, I confronted Mary on the treatment of Amber and was met with a threatening and angry irrational response. I, too, regret that I did not report these things to DCFS. I am willing to help the girls in any way that I can and intend to contact the investigating officers this week. As 12:13 stated, there are no winners here, but a very real opportunity to make a difference.
It makes me realize I too am not alone (seem there are many}.
Wishing and feeling bad that I too should have reported my
observation and first witness accounts that disturbed me
enough to stop my association with this couple. I was
aware that Mary was someone you did not want to cross
and sadly, I always thought DCFS would learn from the girls
themselves and I blindly thought that may have well
happened as I continually learned that DCFS was placing more
SP needs children in the home. However, when I heard they had
as many as eight the first thing I said to my husband was"Can you
imagine what a nut house that is now". (I was directing my statement
about Mary and her inability to parent any SP needs children).
I feel all I can do now is support the girls even by writing a letter to
the court as well as ask the RFpolice if they need people to back up
what the girls everyday life was like and how they were sadly treated.
I believe the girls, as this house was not what the couple wanted
everyone that knew them to believe it was. This is so tragic on so many
levels. People in are community that have expressed their sorrow on
this blog (myself included) and many others feel like we let the
girls down by doing nothing have broken hearts for what these sweet
little girls endured for so many years of their childhood. Thank God
they came forward. We need to be there for them as so many have
expressed on this blog. We owe that to them now and staying silent
with what we know would be like making the same mistake twice.
this blog
March 26, 10:32 am : With every word, you add to your own foolishness. Methinks the truth is already out…
I AM SO PROUD OF OUR TOWN RF. MANY OF US THAT SEEN A WRONG
AND ARE FEELING HORRIBLE THAT WE EACH DID NOT EXPRESS DESPITE
OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL INTERACTIONS AND EXPERIENCES TO DCFS; ARE
NOW STANDING UP , COMING FORWARD, CONTACTING AUTHORITIES
BECAUSE WE WANT TO CHANGE THE WRONG INTO A RIGHT.
WE NEED TO HELP THESE GIRLS NOW EVERY WAY WE CAN AND WE
HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO COME TO THEIR AIDE.
THESE GIRLS WERE DEPRIVED OF A CHILDHOOD AND SUFFERED MENTAL ABUSE,
UNFAIR PUNISHMENT AND TREATMENT AND SUFFERED SEXUAL ABUSE ALL
AT THE SAME TIME. IT IS HARD TO COMPREHEND HOW THIS WENT ON UNDETECTED
BY DCFS BUT IT DID. THIS FAMILY DUPED MANY OF US FOR A TIME, UNTIL WE
WITNESSED CRUEL AND VERBAL ABUSE BY A MOTHER WHO WENT AROUND
ACTING LIKE HER FAMILY WAS "THE BRADY BUNCH".
WE ALL WISH WE COULD TURN BACK THE CLOCK AND ACT ON THE GIRLS BEHALF.
WE HOWEVER, NEED TO HELP THE GIRLS NOW. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE
LET THE AUTHORITIES KNOW WHAT OUR INDIVIDUAL NEGATIVE EXPERIENCES
WERE WITH THE WAY THIS COUPLE MISTREATED THESE GIRLS FROM THE VERY
START. IT WILL SERVE THE GIRLS WELL AS A PATTERN OF ABUSE STARTED
EARLY ON WHICH LED TO THE UNSPEAKABLE CRIMES MR. GASKILL IS ACCUSED
OF. WE NEED TO ARM THE PROSECUTION WITH EVERY EXAMPLE WE REMEMBER
(THER ARE PLENTY) SO THEY CAN KNOW THAT THE HISTORY OF ABUSE THESE
GIRLS ENDURED WAS WITNESSED BY MANY OF US AND IT TOTALLY ADDS
UP TO A HOME WHERE THESE GIRLS WERE SEXUALLY ABUSED AS THEY WERE
VICTIMS OF ABUSE THE MINUTE DCFS PLACED THEM IN THE GASKILL HOUSE
OF HORRORS, A FAR CRY FROM " THE PERFECT BRADY BUNCH" THE COUPLE
PORTRAYED THEMSELVES TO BE.
THESE GIRLS HAVE TAKEN THE FIRST IMPORTANT STEP BY RECLAIMING
THE LIFE THEY WERE DENIED. WE HAVE TO HELP THEM SEE THE DAY THAT
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED AND THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR HEALING
KNOWING THEY NO LONGER ARE VICTIMS AND SUFFERING SILENTLY
IN A HOME THAT WAS A TOTAL NIGHTMARE. I WISH I COULD GIVE THEM
EACH A HUG AND TELL THEM HOW PROUD I AM FOR FINALLY FINDING
THEIR VOICE AND SEEKING JUSTICE THAT WAS DENIED THROUGH NO
FAULT OF THEIR OWN AND KNOW THAT THEY HAVE MANY ,MANY
PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE BEHIND THEM 100 PERCENT.
To the blogger that said that with every word a blogger or bloggers have said( so CLEVER I might add)"that with ever word
you add to your foolishness" "Me thinks the truth is already out….."
WHAT FOOLISHNESS? If you read the blogs, the majority
have written and even expresse that they witnessed deporable
parenting of the girls and that many want to be there for the girls to help if needed to reiterate and validate what
the girls described about their entire life with the couple.
Do you really think they did not have an opportunity to
TELL THEIR WHOLE STOTY AS WELL AS THE SEXUAL ABUSE THAT
ON TOP OF A HORRIBLE CHILDHOOD THEY ALSO ENDURED?
Most if not ALL the PEOPLE I KNOW BELIEVE THE GIRLS
ARE NOT LYING AND YES, WE FEEL THE TRUTH IS OUT.
HOWEVER, YOUR CRYPTIC REMARK CAN BE CONSTRUED AS
SOMEONE THAT PERHAPS BELIEVES THE FACT THAT THE
MONSTER DAD, MR. MARY GASKILL AS HE REFERRED TO
HIMSELF ON MANY OCCASIONS, IS OUT ON HOUSE ARREST
UNTIL TRIAL. IF YOU THINK THE FACT THAT HE IS NOT IN JAIL
RIGHT NOW IS AN INDICATION THAT HE IS NOT GUILTY YOU
ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.
THE OPPOSITE HOLDS TRUE AS WELL. IF YOU THINK WE
(MANY WHO KNOW AND KNEW THE GASKILL WELL) THINK WE
SHOULD BE THERE FOR THE GIRLS OR WANT TO BE THERE
FOR THE GIRLS ARE FOOLISH AS THE TRUTH IS OUT ON HIS
GUILT YOU STILL ARE SADLY MISTAKEN.
YES, I WILL SAY ONCE AGAIN THAT OBVIOUSLY WE BELIEVE
HE GUILTY BECAUSE THE LIFE THESE GIRLS LIVED POINTS
TO A HOME THAT SEXUAL ABUSE WAS NO DOUBT ADDED TO
THE GIRLS MISERY.
WITH ALL THAT SAID, "ME THINKS YOU ARE BOTH CONDESENDING
AS WELL AS SOMEONE WHO THINKS
THE BLOGGERS ARE REPORTING WHAT
THEY KNOW AND SUPPORTING THE
GIRLS AS WE DON'T BELIEVE THE
COURT OF LAW WILL AND OR WE HAVE
DOUBTS THAT MR. MARY GASKILL WILL
BE FOUND GUILTY AT THE END OF HIS
TRIAL."
YOUR REMARK CAN BE TAKEN TWO WAYS AS DEMENSTRATED
BY WHAT I STATED ABOVE.
SINCE YOU ARE ALL KNOWING AND BELIEVE THE TRUTH IS OUT
AND EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO MAKE SURE THE GIRLS COME FIRST
AND NOT THE ACCUSED ARE FOOLISH AND WE ARE WASTING ARE
TIME BECAUSE AS YOU SAY THE TRUTH IS OUT……
YOU ARE A POMPOUS —(FILL IN THE BLANKS) AS WELL
AS SOMEONE THAT IMPLIES THAT EVERYONE THAT ALREADY
FEELS THERE IS GUILT HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE EACH
EXP THIS ABUSE PATTERN UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND
ARE WANTING TO BE THERE FOR THE GIRLS WHO WE BELIEVE
ARE NOT LYING ARE FOOLISH BECAUSE THE "TRUTH IS OUT"
"ME THINKS A TRUTH IS OUT BESIDES THE OBVIOUS CONSENSES
THAT WAS MENTIONED ABOVE, AND THAT TRUTH IS IN REGARDS
TO YOU IS IF ALL YOU HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE IS ONE STUPID
SENTENCE THAT YOU THINK IS SO PROFOUND AS WELL AS SMUG
ONE CAN ONLY CONCLUDE YOU ARE ONE OF THE GASKILL
CLAN OR A DIE HARD GROUPIE THAT BELIEVES WE ARE
NOT ENLIGHTENED TO SEE CLEARLY THAT HE IS INNOCENT
AND THERE IS NO OTHER TRUTH"
"ME THINKS YOU ARE A MORON"
OK–TIME TO STEP UP AND DO SOMETHING NOW THAT WE DIDN'T DO OVER VARYNG TIMES IN YEARS PAST. I'm talking to all of you and me who feel the GUILT–because we witnessed abuse in the Gaskill home and did nothing but sever our connections with the family. I want to engage-but need some advice. Write letters to who? RF Police?, DCFS?, Judge?, Prosecuting Attorneys?, Public Guardians?
Guardianship Assistance Desk for Minors
Circuit Court of Cook County
69 West Washington Street, Room 1020
Chicago, Illinois 60602
(312) 603-0135
Public Guardian of Cook county
http://www.publicguardian.org
The Office of State Guardian
http://gac.state.il.us/osg/
Someone who knows what to do and how to do it–Please give me/us your advice. I don't want this connection of blogs to become nothing more than that; I/we need direction for the next step-Please Help.
Blogger from March 28, 5:39 am : I am afraid that you did not realize that I was speaking on behalf of the girls. My comment was directed toward the blogger from March 26, 10:32 am who offered up the insane imaginary dialog between the police and Rob Gaskill, supposedly coercing his confession of having a biting fetish. Every word added in defense of this man's actions is indeed, utter foolishness. That same blogger said that we will all have to wait until the trial for the truth to come out. My point is that the truth is ALREADY, thanks to his own confession and the overwhelming support that is evidenced on this blog. I'm sorry that I did not make myself more clear in identifying my position.
Blogger March 28, 11:47am : Thank you for opening up this call to action. I want to do all that I can and know of a few others who want to be involved as well. We are all in need of direction for next steps.
TO Mar.28 11:47
I hear you LOUD AND CLEAR!
I as well as my family (my children even that were
friend at one time of two of the bio girls) SEVERED
ALL CONTACT with this family.
I like you and many of us, feel and have felt
GUILT IN the PAST AS WELL AS NOW.
WE can't change what we should have done in the past
(REPORTING TO DCFS) but WE CAN DO SOMETHING NOW.
Start with RF police. Call non-emergency # and ask
for DET. GRILL, or DET. DEYOUNG and if they are
you can leave a voice mail and they will call you back.
You can call Dept. chief officer Craig Rutz and get
him directly, or leave him a message and he too will
call you back. I talked to Det. Grill as well as
Dept. chf Officer Rutz and both listened and thanked
me for the info as it does show how the dysfuntional
home can and does LEAD TO SEX ABUSE TO MINORS IN FST
CARE sadly too often and the children that are
in a home with other patterns of abuse are even
at higher risk to be sexually abused and live in
fear and silence as the predetor has control over
them and uses their vulnerability to manipulate
them anyway they can to keep the abuse secret.
I tried DCFS (calling) they NEVER RETURN CALLS.
I have written a letter to the STATE ATTORNEY OFFICE
PROSECUTORS IN THE CRIMINAL COURT IN MAYBROOK which
I am just now getting ready to send out.
I have not yet written to JUDGE LOVE. SOMEONE ON
this blog said they were making copies of what
this blog reveals and is sending it or has sent
the copies to JUDGE LOVE.
I will call the # you listed above and see if they
can EXPLAIN WHY THERE ARE STILL CHILDREN IN MARY
GASKILLS CARE.
I am glad you are getting involved like myself
and many others who have or are active in sharing
their exps. with this family as it proves the
history and pattern of abuse started long ago
and sadly resulted in the worse possible act
that these girls endured for years along with
all the other verbal, mental and emotional
abuse which made their young lives a living
hell that I can not even believe they were
carrying around the hell they were living.
They were both sweet girls. they always were
polite and enjoyed any attention from others
that came there way as it was so sorely lacking
in their home life.
I hope this HELPS you to get on this IMMEDIATELY
and I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT THIS BLOG
should be more than a blog, and I REALLY SEE
FROM READING THE ENTRIES THAT MANY MANY PEOPLE
ARE ENGAGEDV AND NOT SITTING ON THEIR THUMBS
AND THE ACTION WE ARE TAKING INDIVIDUALLY AS
WELL AS COLLECTIVELY WILL ONLY HELP THE GIRLS
AND THEY WILL KNOW THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE
THEM AND ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT THEM ANYWAY
THEY (WE) CAN!!
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR WANTING TO DO YOUR PART.
COLLECTIVELY, THE HELL THESE GIRLS LIVED THEIR
ENTIRE LIVES WILL BE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE
COURT WILL TAKE AS PART OF THE PATTERN OF ABUSE
THAT ALSO RESULTED IN BOTH THESE GIRLS LIVING
WITH SEXUAL ABUSE FOR AT LEAST HALF THEIR LIVES.
http://oakpark.suntimes.com/news/11341487-418/accused-foster-parent-free-after-bond-lowered.html
People who witnessed abuse, or disturbing behavior by Mr or Mrs Gaskill – I urge you to report it now.
According to the newspaper, Mr. Gaskill was staying in an apt on house arrest because Mrs. Gaskill was still caring for SEVERAL children in her home.
You are not just stepping up for Amber and Missy; you are also stepping up for the children that are still in that home.
The nonemegency number to River Forest police is
(708) 366-7127 .
I totally applaud everyone on this blog that
have inf. to share that they winessed first hand
on the various forms of abuse these girls
suffered overtly and privately as both types
of abuse have a cumalitive affect on children
and alters their self worth, mental and emotional
being that destroys self cofidence,their own persona
and cause inferiority issues that psychologically
they feel worthless. They begin to really believe
that the abusers are right and that nobody in
their family loves them as they feel unlovable
and are so broken down that they are vulnerable
to beig sexually abused and not tell ANYONE as
they have been damaged so much that they believe
whatever the abuser tells them. They are easily
under the control and manipulation that they
endure the abuse silently, and are helpless to
say or do anything to help themselves.
It is not unusual to come forward as young adults
when they are no longer paraylized by the fear
and hopelessness they felt during the years
in their young life that they were captive
and bound by feeling they had no way out and
no where to go. I can tell you this as I am
an adult that suffered sexual abuse as a child
and when I grew into a youg adult and was no
longer paralyzed by all my fears I was able
to come to terms with that I NEEDED to speak
and have my voice heard and it did and does take
a lot of strength to realize that you and you
alone need to confront the abuser and finally
be the one in control. I can tell you that
was my first step in healing and had I not confronted
my abuser I do not know what or where I would be
in my life today. Healing begins immediately when
you feel you are in control, and continues step
by step until you realize none of it was ever your
fault and you start to look at life and everything
you endured as finally over. You see yourself as
a boxer in a ring that finally got up after the count
and took the other boxer out and feel victorious
in ever sense of the word.
The steps toward healing do come abd you start to feel
for the first time in your life that you are strong
and can take on any adversity with a self love an
awareness you were deprived and robbed of by the
suffering you endured by a coward that preys on
children. The abuser is nothing but a coward.
You realize his only strength was derived by
overpowering his victim who is helpless and
vulnerable.To this day I realize I am far stronger
than he ever was or could be.
These girls are strong and brave. They like me will
see the abuser for the coward he is.
They have begun the first and most terrifying
first step in healing. They will soon see themselves
as the strong young women they are. THe coward will
always be a coward. They are strong but will continue
to heal and see themselves become stronger than ever
and they will find that they can and will become
crusaders for others who have gone through the
same hell. Like me they will be able to see we
are the strong ones that become stronger; while
their abuser is and always will be a coward.
Everyone that has been active and supporting the girls
your efforts will go along way in their own healing
as they will know that they are cared about and
have people that not only believe them but will
stand up to the horrible things that have been an will
continue to be said about them by the abusers family
and people that never even knew them.
To the blooger that shared your personal story,
your exp and how you were able to become stronger
after what you endured once you exposed the abuser
in your own life, and were able to realize that
nothing you did caused the abuser to abuse you.
You are so right about a child abuser being a total
coward and his only strength (he feels) is the power,
and control over his child victim by having his sick
fantasies and sexual excitement satisfied and kept
secret by what must be terrifying and extremely
detrimental to a childs' psychological well-being
as they like you suffer in silence and actually
are so brain washed and manipulated that the abuser
also feeds on the power and control he has over his victims
You shared that once the abuser in your case was exposed
you began healing and realized your abuser was a coward
and would always be a coward. You pointed out that
you realized you were strong and that you became
stronger and knew that nothing you did caused the
suffering you were made to endure. This was very
insightful as we all hope thes girls like you will
and are already seeing their abbuser as a big coward
and small in comparison to themselves; as they are
strong to face not only thier abuser, but a woman
(his wife) who has and will continue to drag them
in the mud and make people think that they are
mentally disturbed, unstable and total liars.
It is my hope and I'm sure others who have read
your exp in becoming even stronger and living
your life knowing that by exposing the abuse
you suffered; you finally had control of your life
that you were so horribly denied as a child that
these teo girls never had control even with other
forms of abuse that many of witnessed and were
so sickened that we could not stand being around
this couple and alot of us thought about reporting
them to DCFS but didn't. We are now doing what we
can for these girls and are actively trying to
help them by telling what we saw and heard (abuse),
to authotities as we want the judge and court to know
this family is a far cry from what they portrayed
themselves to be and are still portraying themselves
as a perfect family that is being falsely accused
by two worth-less, disturbed liars.
The fact that so mant people who know better and believe
these girls hopefully will help them take comfort
that people care about them and value them and
want to see them recieve justice that they were
sadly never given in their young lives.
Thank you for sharing. Your story will only make
more people become pro-active for these girls
and share info that they exp by speaking or
writing letters on behalf of these two brave girls.
Write Judge Love, and let her know that not everyone thinks Mr. G is so terrific:
The Honorable Noreen Valeria Love
Circuit Court of Cook County
Maybrook Courthouse
1500 Maybrook Drive, Suite 131
Maywood, IL 60153
I think we can also write to the State's Attorney at
State's Attorney
Fourth Municipal District
1500 Maybrook Drive
Maywood, IL 60153
or email:
statesattorney@cookcountyil.gov
To blogger from March 29, 12:16 am, thank you for sharing such encouragement and wisdom, I am sure that it was hard won from your experience…we can all keep your words in mind as we move forward in supporting the girls in various ways in the days ahead..those who have helpful information to share with investigators and are willing to write letters, those who will be able to attend the trial dates, those who would like to encourage them by reaching out personally, and all of us as we stand in their defense when others speak of them disparagingly.
There's no confession. A cops word but no audio or written confession. They were in the foster care system in this state for years and there's no way after years of living in that house that they wouldn't have caught something? I'd like to see what people say on here if this man is found innocent. I'm not saying he is but there seems like there is something up here. A supposed confession. No one else coming forward. No signs of anything in the past I assume since nothings been reported. And no look into the other side. Hmmm….plus in the one article it says the one girl said nothing happened. Maybe I'm just too jaded from people in the world taking advantage of other people but before I'm wrong I'd like to see more looking into the other side. Looks like the Cops are corrupt in the Trayvon case too.
Mar.29 10:08 Are you an insider and privavy to what
happened or did not happen with the qustioning
and answering session with the accused and RF
police detectives?
You are very naieve about how these girls were
in an enviorment that nothing like sex abuse
could of happened.
Many Gaskill insiders, that were friends with
the family for extended periods of time, some
for several years have witnessed verbal abuse,
unfair treatment and disrespect of these girls
firsthand. The girls were never treated fairly
and those that witnessed it over and over became
so disgusted that they cut ties with this family
and severed even their own children socializing
with the bio girls as well.
If you study or are even aware (which I doubt)
the treatment of these girls (at times outwardly
distained) by this perfect couple; the probability
that sexual abuse was high as a pattern of
abuse that no doubt was WORSE BEHIND CLOSED
DOORS.
It really is not hard to see that such a
home where abuse is taking place as an
on going part of their life in public
and NO DOUBT IN PRIVATE, the girls
were an easy mark as to become sexually
abused by the accused as he preyed upon
their brokeness and acute vulnerability.
You mention no one else has come forward.
You obviously do not know everything
you think you know about this family.
The girls were with them most of their lives.
The reason no one else is coming forward is
they took in many many babies and toddlers
for short periods of time, which is the reason
it was reported they fostered as many as 75
children in the 20 plus years they were in
the "BUSINESS OF FOSTER CARE".
March29 10:08
You have no idea what the police have or do not have on
the case. The accused is saying he did not confess
nor sign a written confession or anything else.
However, the case obviusly does not hinge on
a confession (most cases the accused insists
they are not guilty,especially abuse against minors
of this nature). The reason is obvious, they can
as already has been done claim that the minors are
total liars with all kinds of serious issues including
being mentally unstable, and in this case saying
they are so screwed up due to FAS.
Also, you are sadly mistaken that just because
they were in this home for years this type of abuse
could not possibly happen. The years the girls were
in the home they were verbally abused, treated
unfairly and there was a definite distinction
in the way they were treated compared to the bio
kids. Actually, one can really compare their life
to the clasasic disney story: CINDERELLA.
People (many in number) witnessed the abuse and
mistreatment of the girls and totally were
disgusted as it was not isolated incidents.
It was not the parenting these girls should
have had and they had ver unhappy lives living
in this home that was NEVER really a hometo
them in any sense of the word. That is why
the people that were friends of this family
broke ties with them as it was obvious and
uncomfortable to witness the way these girls
were treated and did not want to be around
to see these girls have a life with rules,
treatment and punishment that their bio kids
NEVER EVER HAD TO ENDURE.
I venture you know very little about these
girls lives as you really do not understand
that the abuse that was listed above, made
them especiaaly vulnerable to sexual abuse.
The court has EVIDENCE and not just wild
accusations otherwise Mr. GAskill would not
be in the serious trouble he is in facing
two counts of class X felonies and standing
trial.
Think about it, if they had only wild accusations,
he would have never been arrested in the first place.
I have no idea why nothing was recorded or signed. I think we all realize though that there was some pretty substantial evidence that enabled the police to arrest him. It is so very hard to believe and accept but I believe he did confess. Also, the person who said "nothing happened" was not one of the two girls accusing Rob. It was a different person. I still don't understand how anyone, let alone DCFS could ever think that amount of children with special needs were okay in that house. How could they have their needs met? It is just so bizarre when I think of it!
Does anyone know if the Gaskill's were able to foster and/or adopt Missy and Amber's younger Sister?
Apparently at least one, that I know for sure, of the bio children would also like to bite when playing with friends. The child would be asked to stop by the friends as the bites were both very painful and considered strange by the kids involved.
It really does not matter if he confessed or not.
Many criminals do not confess (even with overwhelming
evidence). Also, there must be more than enough as
if it were simply accusations with nothing to confirm
with the girls accusations, there would not be a case
going to trial. The police stated they did investigate
for weeks prior to the arrest. It is not like he was
arrested that day because the girls just made the
accusations and they jumped in a car to arrest him.
Many people do not believe or do not want to believe
there was a confession. The only people that really
know are the defendant and the detectives.
I tend to believe that their was an admission of guilt,
and perhaps he regretted it, and now is telling everyone
he did not and spreading lies that are so awful about
the girls to take the spotlight off himself and
turn this case into two psychos that are the criminals
as they are total liars and mentally ill as well.
The girl that the paper quoted that said nothing
happened is about 10 years old, and she was removed
from the home and she is not one of the children that
were returned to Mary Gaskill. Hopefully, nothing
did happen to her but she is young just like the two girls
were and possibly still in the mind set that she needs
to keep it a secret. I hope that is not the case but
we really do not know her psychiological state or
evaluations. Perhaps she was removed in the nick
of time and could have been abused in the future.
DCFS has a lot to explain here. 8 children with SP.
needs in one home is irresponsible and ludicrious.
I do not know why DCFS returned some of the children
that are back in the home now. I hope the girls get
good legal advice and sue the state if possible for
all that they have gone through. I'm sure they can
file a civil law suit against the family.
I feel horrible about not acting on what I saw and
heard and I knew the girls were not treated right
in that home. I could have called DCFS repeatedly
and should have. I can only say in my defense, at
that time period I associated with them, I thought
the girls would tell case-workers what they were
going through. I thought they would say something
like "My mom is mean, she does not talk nice to me
and is not nice to my little sister." I thought
that was what case workers were for.
I distanced myself from this family (even affecting
one of my own children who was friends with one
of the bio girls). Also, I must admitt, that Mary
has a stong personality and I did not want to cross
her in anyway as I was intimidated by her as well.
I hope these girls receive the justice they deserve
as they suffered in that home on many levels,
the worse of course the abuse that their so called
fst dad is standing trial for. This should have
NEVER happened. I hope DCFS is HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY
THE COURT AND THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. I for one, am
not going to slip quietly in the night….this
time around.
I could not agree more with the"ACCOUNTABILITY"
that DCFS NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TO TASK over this
HUGE BLUNDER(to put it mildly) on FAILING THESE
GIRLS and also placing 8 Sp Needs childrenin
the home as well. How they can justify the number placed
alone in this home is beyond the pale.
THey could not even pick up that this familyor
any family COULD NOT GIVE EACH OF THE CHILDREN
THE ATTENTION THEY NEEDED AND HOURS OF ONE-ON ONE
TIME that children with SP. Needs require.
To think they jammed these children in this house
even while at least three of the bio-children lived
there until recently. I think one bio-college girl
still lives in the home. Obviously, she has her own
life as she should, and is not around to even give
a helping hand. I would like to know how Mary Gaskill
was seen many times in restaurants and other social
appearances actually was able to find the time and
energy to party at a fav. restaurant of hers, as
well as drinking margaritas and go home and be useful
to these children even the next day after.
When she was seen at night Rob was not with her, so
I guess he was home minding the store.
How DCFS NEVER HEARD ANY REPORTS ABOUT THIS FAMILY
THAT NOT WERE "GLOWING REVIEWS" is BEYOND COMPREHENSION.
This home was NEVER a good choice as it was apparent
early on with the girls, they viewed thir role as
care-takers at BEST. It was obvious that they were
all about their bio kids and the girls were just
extra inconvient baggage that they carried around
and HAD TO PUT up WITH in order to get paid by
the state and for no other reason.
They of course passed themselves off (or tried to)
as FST. parents that were dedicated to the girls
and that they ABSOLUTELY LOVED TAKING ON THE EXTRA
RESPONSIBILITY because they had SO MUCH LOVE TO SHARE>
THat was so far from the truth, many saw through their
real motivation, which was and always about MONEY.
SAD BUT TRUE. Mary loved spending money period.
Frivioulosly, I might add. She was not working and
was not happy with the income she had to live on
based on her husband's salary. Fst. Parenting
became a business to her from the very begining and
continued even now while this terrible case has
come to light as DCFS has returned some children to her
care in the home. Does ANYONE KNOW HOW DCFS CAN STILL
BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE HOME FOR ANY
CHILD??????? KEEP IN MIND THE CHILDREN HAVE
SERIOUS DISABILITIES as well as SP Needs.
Mary is not on trial like her husband. However, she
is not the DEDICATED fst. mother she has and still
EXPECTS EVERYONE TO BELIEVE.
WE can only hope that DCFS RECEIVES SUCH AN OUTCRY
ON HOW THEY FAILED MISERABLY WITH THE GIRLS AS
WELL AS EVER LETTING THEM BECOME FST PARENTS to
BEGIN WITH.
People need to get involved and make sure the
state attorney office gets THE WHOLE PICTURE
OF THISN MONEY HUNGRY COUPLE, AND THAT IT REALLY
HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHICH were
really INCONVIENT BORDERS IN THE HOME, FOR ONE
REASON aND ONE REASON ALONE: THE PAYCHECK IN
THE MAIL AND NOTHING MORE.DCFS NEEDS TO HEAR
THE MESSAGE LOUD AND CLEAR: YOU ARE AT FAULT
TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN, WHICH LED TO THIS
ABUSE TO HAPPEN FOR YEARS AND NOW THE WORSE
ABUSE IMAGINABLE SEEMS MORE THAN LIKELY HAPPENED
TO TWO GIRLS WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF
THAT NUT HOUSE TO BEGIN WITH!
To answer Mar.30th 6:30PM-To answer your question about
the little sister of Misty and Amber, The little sister
(about 8-10 yrs. of age) was living with the family as a
fst child for most of her life. The Gaskills had been
TRYING to adopt her as well, but there were complications
(unknown) that prevented that from happening.
She is the little girl that was taken and not placed
back into the home like other children were(sadly)
recently were returned. She also was the little girl
when questined that the paper quoted her as saying
nothing happened. (Hopefully and Thankfully nothing
did happen). However, she could have easily been at risk
in the near future if she continued to stay in the home.
Sidenote: At the church where I met the Gaskills
several years ago, (they no longer attend the church
as Mary was employed and was asked to leave the job
due to questional ethics behavior where finances of
the church were involved) it was noticibable she
favored and treated the girls sister better than
many of us witnessed Misty and Amber. The reason
being this little girl (mary told several people)
was not born with FAS as the mother of the girls
did not do alchol and or drugs during the pregancy.
DCFS at least did the right thing by this little girl,
as I'm sure the court would have intervened and made
sure the GAskills NEVER EVEN SEE HER AGAIN.
My hope as well as others is that perhaps she is living
with the girls and a relative.Misty and Amber loved
their little sister (it was so apparent watching them
dote on her), so I hope all three girls will live happily
the rest of their lives away from this very troubled
couple. This whole Gaskill story is really like a very
sad made for tv movie about the nightmare these girls
lived and how they finally were able to confront
their abuse seeking the justice they were denied and
the justice they clearly deserve. However, the other
fst. and or adopted kids that were adoplted while they
were a foster child deserve justice and be taken out
of Mary Gaskills' care as well. She may not be standing
trial like her husband, but she certainly was an evil
force in these chidrens' lives and contributed to
the abusive enviornment that made these girls become
higher risk for the sex abuse as she herself made
these girls feel inferior their whole life and treated
them that way as well. It is no wonder the accused
thought they were easy prey. You really could not
write this stuff or make it up as the whole story
is so unbelievable as DCFS really were failures
in the care and well-being of these girls.
them
The child that did bite (we had that happen as well
at our house) is the yougest bio-child. This child
was having difficulties having two little girls coming
into her life knocking her off the pecking order of
being the baby. The mom knew that and this child was
spoiled even more and the girls were treated worse
because of it. Misty and this bio child were the same
age as well. The mom actuaaly put Misty a year behind
in school which really was not called .The motive
was obvious to people that knew her as she would DO
ANYTHING that she felt would benefit her bio-child,
at the EXPENSE of the fst. girls in her care; in this
case Mistys. If there is justice for this woman beside
her husband is that she should not have one single
kid in her care now or ever. DCFS will be hearing that
alot if they have not heard from irate and appauled
people in the communitys' reaction. This sad story
went on to long and IT NEEDS TO END NOW.
I have read this blog since the start. I know who this family is as they
were active at the church I attend in Oak Park, Calvery but I did not
personally know them. I live in Oak Park and people that knew them from church
and live in Oak Park are like myself stunned, while others are saying they
knew there was something not right about this family. Those that became
friends with them, are saying the same things I have been reading on
this blog. It really has been an eye-opener. I don't think this many people
would be speaking about their experiences with this couple if there was
not a true profile of what they truly witnessed; and their overwhelming
desire to support the girls. I hope the court and judge are made well aware
of what all these people that knew them well have had to say.
I must agree that DCFS needs to be held accountable. I also
hope that these girls have justice served on their behalf.
Since I really do not know them; but outraged that DCFS placed so
many children in this home I am going to do my part of finding
out how I can get their attention and let them know as a tax payer
in the state I am disgusted these people received tax dollars which
it seems was the reason they took in so many children to begin with.
I will continue reading this blog and I hope the many people that said they were
going to let authorities know about the outward abuse they witnessed
get their information across as I can see how it will help this case and
support these two brave young ladies.
If I can I am going to try and be there in court for the girls. It seems
they are greatly out numbered in court and they really do not have
anyone but the state supporting and standing up for them.
Why does DCFS still have children in this home even now?
Does anyone know how many? Also, are the children school
age or younger? If there are some younger ones, does Mrs. Gaskill
stay home and take care of them? I would think with everything
going on in her life with the husband standing trial, she would be too
distracted and obviously stressed out to be an good to any of these
children. Would not the children be better off in a home that is calm,
and put into other homes so they could receive the attention and care they deserve?
It seems DCFS does not care that this home was and no doubt even now
dysfunctional.
My huband and I were wondering if wife is the
same age as her huband which is reported he
was 63 yrs. old. The paper did not mention how old the
wife is. We know it takes a lot of energy to
babysit our precious grandchildren(we love every minute)
but we are the same age as Mr. Gaskill and I can
tell you when they go home we are exhausted as they
are normal energetic children. We both remarked
that there we be no way could have eight needy
children everday as we would be beyond exhausted
not just physically but mentally as well. They
could not possibly care for all these children
without a lot of extra help. Did they have hired
care-givers to help? If they did would not these
care-givers have alot of information to share
with what the home life was like.
I would think if they are both our age, they
would want to have fun doing bthings they both
enjoy and taking life a little easier.
We are enjoying our retirement and we both can
not phanthom having the responsibility these
people took on as there would be absolutely no
time for ourselves and to enjoy life.
DCFS should have placed these children in a home with
no more than one or two children. My daughter
and her husband are as busy as ever and their
children are not sp needs and thank- God healthy as
well. We hope the girls in the case have justice served
as everthing we have read is so sad and unbelievable
and it is sad they fell through the cracks.
Mary is supposedly about 53 years old (but she probably lies about that age, too).
I never knew her to have hired help. Kids took care of kids while she worked a full time job and, for a time, supposedly was HOMESCHOOLING some of them!!!
Actually, I don't know that all these kids were genuinely special needs. I don't believe that Missy was — she was a smart little girl. I have wondered whether Mary manipulated doctors to get those diagnoses so that she could get more of our money?
To the person who asked if the couple are both in their
sixties, I believe the wife is in her late fifties or so.
I agree about the energy level it would take to keep
the energy level needed to take care of all these
children. I think they must have had hired help as it would
be humanely impossible to make sure these needy
childrens' needs were met. I wonder if the care-givers
have told the authorities what they observed as well.
I too, do not understand how that many children were
placed in that home by DCFS. It is no wonder that this
forum exsists as after reading about how so many children
suffer in fst. care; the child protective services
FAIL miserably and are the CAUSE of many sad, horrible
cases of all kinds including death. I knew the system
failed children but this forum has really educated
me that many fst children suffer because of the
deficiencies of CPS. I know there are wonderful fst
parents out there, and truly are loving parents that
value and treat their fst children as their own,
and many end up adopting these children and the
children are loved and treasured and are in their
"forever home" and would not want any other parents
in the world because they are so loved and their
wonderful parents would move heaven and earth for
them and then some. It is a sad fact that CPS does
not vet the family and have very high standards
that have to be met for placing any child in a home,
let alone a SP needs child. My brother and his
wife became adoptive parents five years ago and
I can tellyou the home-study and interviews were
extremely intense, and the agency took their time
to make sure my brother and sister in-law qualified
in every way possible before they were even in
a waiting period for their daughter. The wait was
about two and a half years but so worth it.
They are now the family they dreamed og being
and are beyond the moon over my beautiful niece
that has been so wanted and waited for by not only
them but both families and she is the sunshine
of all our lives and boy does she know she is our
little princess!
I have been reading about the Sandusky case on
this forum, there are mant uncanny overlaps
that are very similiar to this case. The two
cases both have involvement with child protection
or organizations that are involved with the care of
children as well as the wives being very similar in
character. It appears the Gsaskill and Sandusky
family have alot in common…sadly.
Thanks for the info about their little sister. I have the feeling that many of us have had first hand knowledge of situations that made the Gaskill home less than a good place for children to be fostered. For example, when Missy made the travelling soccer team and the Gaskill's bio-child, who was the same age, did not; Missy was not allowed to join the team. This may sound like nothing given the situation now, but in life's scheme, it wasn't. It was sad, hurtful and unjust.
Now a question? Will there come a time in court when Missy and Amber should/could be supported by those of us who would like to be a visible presence?
I think the Gaskills should pay back the state for all the checks they received as "unfit" foster parents.
Anonymous April 3, I do wonder if a civil suit will be brought against the Gaskills and/or DCFS to cover the costs of any therapies that they may need.You pose an interesting question of whether the state would sue a foster parent to get money that they paid out back. I have no idea if that is possible.My guess is no. I do like the idea though as the taxpayers of Illinois have certainly paid enough to the Gaskills.
To April 2nd 6:24PM
I think it would be great if yiu can even share that story
about Miisy making the travel team and the youngest bio-child
did not; and that once AGAIN ANOTHER EXAMPLE how UNFAIR
and CRUEL Mary was to Missy by NOT CELEBRATING WITH HER
AND letting her ENJOY The EXPERIENCE SHE EARNED AND DESERVED
by NOT ALLOWING HER TO JOIN THE TEAM because her VERY SPOILED
AND BRATTY yougest bio-child did not qualify.
THIS IS ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW POORLY MISSSY WAS TREATED
AND LIKE YOU SAID HURTFUL AND TOTALLY UNJUST.
ALSO IT SHOWS HOW IN THE HOME BEHIND CLOSED DOORS MIISY
AND AMBER SUFFERED SO MUCH MORE INJUSTICE AND CRUEL
TREATMENT THAT THE GIRLS OR ANY CHILD EVER SHOULD HAVE
TO ENDURE AND LIVE THROUGH. THIS WAS A VERY CRUEL UNHAPPY
HOME FOR THRSE GIRLS IN CONTRAST TO THE BEAUTIFUL LIFE
SHE MADE SURE HER PRECIOUS BIO_GIRLS DESERVED>
LET ME KNOW IF YOU DO NOT SHARE THIS INFO WITH RF POLICE
OR DETECTIVES ON THIS CASE> THIS EXAMPLE IS NOT A NOTHING,
IT IS AN IMPORTANT EXAMPLE (THERE ARE MANY) HOW THESE
GIRLS WERE MENTALLY ABUSED AS WELL AS EMOTINALLY AND
LIVING IN THAT HORRIBLE HOME THEY HAD NO CHANCE OF
DEVELOPING SELF-ESTEEM OR CONFIDENCE WHICH LIKE THE SEX
ABUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO OVERCOME THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES.
I KNOW THES GIRLS BUT DID NOT KNOW THE SOCCER EXAMPLE,
AND I CRIED WHEN I READ IT. MISSY SO DESERVED TO BE IN
THE SPOTLIGHT FOR SOMETHING SHE ACCOMPLISHED AND FEEL PROUD
OF HERSELF BUT WAS DENIED BY THE DESPICABLE CHARACTER
THE LIKES OF MARY GASKILL WHO WANTED EVERONE TO BELIEVE
SHE WAS SUCH A GOOD HEARTED MOM AND THAT SHE TOOK GOOD
CARE OF THESE GIRLS. I WANT TO PUKE RIGHT NOW!
Good question about if Missy and Amber will be in court
and I believe the RF detectives if will call close to trial
may be able to answer that. I do think everyone that wants
to support the girls, DO EVERTHING POSSIBLE INCLUDING
SITTING ON THE PROSECUTION SIDE BECAUSE ALL THEY HAVE OUR
THOSE OF US (whether they knew the Gaskills or not) to
HOLD THEM UP AND SUPPORT THEM AND GIVE THEM THE CONFIDENCE
THEY WERE GRIEVEOUSLY DENIED IN THEIR YOUNG LIVES.
To April 3 1:33 PM
I think the Gaskills were spend-thrifts and I doubt
they have all that money that they DID NOT DESERVE as
Mary always indulged herself and bio-kids as Mary
wanted and always has wanted to KEEP UP WITH THE JONES"S
AND EVEN SURPASS THE JONE'S SHE VIEWED AS HAVING MORE
THAN HERSELF AND HER BIO-GIRLS.
THE BEST WE CAN HOPE FOR IS A CIVIL SUIT FOR SEXUAL
ABUSE AND EVERY CRUEL MENTAL SUFFERING THEY ENDURED:
BY SUING THEM OURIGHT WHICH WOULD INLUDE ASSESTS THE DO
HAVE AS WELL AS THE SALE OF THEIR HAPPY HOME.
HOPE THE GIRLS HAVE A PRO-BONO LAWYER THAT CAN HELP
THEM AS THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY I'M SURE TO PAY
FOR ONE.
Anyone out there that is or knows a lawyer willing
to help these girls file a law-suit PRO-BONO should
ask the RF dets. if the girls have one or would
welcome one after the trial is over.
April 3 1;57
Many on this blog are wondering the same things about
law suits on this blog. I'm not sure the state can file
a suit against the Gaskills. It seems to me the state
can be sued for never picking up (what was so apparent
and obvious to so many) on how they FAILED THESE GIRLS
MISERABLY AND DID THE WRST JOB POSSIBLE ON STAYING
ON TOP OF THE GIRl's LIVES including questioning the
social circles the Gaskills had or have in their lifes
to attest to how they treated the girls wiyhout the state
looking over the shoulder when the state did their very
few checks on these girls.
The Gaskills would never have given names, however, when
the girls were older they themselves could have provided
names easily as they knew the Gaskill pals as well as
the Gaskill pals children.
I have just read about Misty not being able to join
the traveling team as the bio-daughter (exactly the
same age) did not make the tr.aveling soccer team.
How many horrible examples of cruel mental and
emotional abuse these girls endured behind closed
doors? Is it any wonder that sexual abuse did take
place in this kooky home? Mary Gaskill can go around
24hrs. a day and try to spin how her dear sweet
husband is being accused by two liars who ade deranged,
as well as stupid due to FAS.
Mary needs a reality check. Thank yourself Mary for
diminishing these girls any way you possibly could.
You took away the way they viewed themseves in the world.
Telling children they are stupid and idiots like your
husband did to Amber several times in the presence of
others proves the diminishment of these girls was
acceptable to your husband and appauling at the same
time.These girls could not have self esteem on every
level as they were torn down by you, your husband and
no doubt the bio-girl the same age as you taught her
that she was little miss wonderful, and could do no
wrong; you prompoted a unhealthy relationship between
them from the very begining. Many people are aware and
remember you holding Misty back a grade level.
Your excuse was she was behind and it would help her.
The real reason was because you could not handle them
being in the same grade as God forbid Misty would
out shine her youngest bio-daghter in any way shape or
form. I have a child that was a classmate of Misty,s
and I was an involved parent in and out of the class
room and I can tell you that Misty was so sweet and
very bright. I saw nothing that indicated that she
needed help in any way. It is a shame she was held
back as she no doubt was bright enough to excell in
the grade level that she SHOULD have been but was denied
by Mary Gaskill. I wonder why DCFS allowed her to make
call. Where they afraid of her to the point of
letting her diminish what Misty was capable of
without the school district testing her first?
Mary should be confronted with the abuse she dished
out on these innocent girls durin their whole life
as these two had no way ou and were vitrual prisoners
with a warden instead of a mom that care and truly
loved them.I hope the prosecution calls her to the stand
and watch her perger herself under oath. I would even
pay to se that with the money going to these girls.
I plan on asking the Rf police if they will give the
girls some cash in a card with words of encouragement
enough for them to go shopping and treat themselves
to something they really like or want as their warden
certainly denied them that experience as well as the
bio-girls had everything their heart desired.
Great idea about law suit. I believe it is
and will be warranted after this trial is over.
I would like to know how the girls can sue the
state for a settlement for failing them their
whole life. No amount of money will take their
pain away, but they do totally deserve restitution
for ending up in the worse home possible.
Apr. 3 7:08
There is NO AMOUNTOF MONEY that can
ever take the pain they endured in
the home the state placed them with.
However, since the state was RESPONSIBLE
for their well being and care, I believe
the girls will get a settlement from the
state as these girls will want no doubt
restitution as they not only deserve it
but will likely need and or want professional
care to talk about their lives and to help
them heal from the sex abuse and all the
other abuse on every level,they endured in the
home.I also think for sure they can file a
civil law-suit against the Gaskills and no
doubt are aware of that, or will be aware of
that fact at the end of this trial.
The person that said they are going to give the
cash with a card of encouragement and support,
I think that is a great idea. These girls no
doubt can use the money, and I am going to
send a Jewel Food Gift card as I am sure
they can use a helping hand in paying for
groceries as well. Maybe, those of you that
know the girls (even if you did not) can send
a cash donation and a note of support to the
girls as I don't believe they are having an
easy time financialy. Ironically, the so called
fst. parents exploited these girls as well
as ruin their lives; making money from the
state as these girls were just meal tickets
to this greedy couple for their entire lives.
Has anyone on this blog been able to contact
and speak with anyone at DCFS? I tried calling
and they do not return calls. Would it help
to send letters to DCFS in care of the STATE
Attorney Office ?
I think they need to feel the heat on how the
public is outraged for placing these girls for
so long (and never picked up on ANYTHING)
and actually signing off on these girls being
adopted by this mone hungry couple.
The state continues to pay the adpt.parents
so obviously this couple adopted them to get
DCFS off their back. I believe there could not
have been post-adoptive supervision, or any
checks on these girls after that happened;
so once again the state failed these girls
and walked away.
I will never understand why the state allowed
the number of children in that home.
It was reported as many as eight. How then is
it that when DCFS visited this home they could
not realize how this family was dysfuntional,
and failed to see the real reason they wanted
that many was the income they received from the
state and nothing more.
April is CHILDHOOD ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH, I think
this case has exposed that even so called model
citizens and from what I, have read, religious
fanatics can and do ABUSE children in fst.care and
in this case adopted girls that received NOTHING
but hardship and suffering unimaginable to
comprehend, and now as grown young women have
to even endure reliving the nightmare of sexual
abuse for more than half of their young lives.
If I were them, I would get rid of the legal name
GASKILL as soon as possible and take back their
biological name as unfortunately, the last name
Gaskill was all they sadly received, and it meant
nothing as they were never a real part of this
family their vwhole lives.
Also, there is NOTHING to be proud about being
saddled with the name GASKILL and will always
remind them any time they sign their name, that
they were given this name not for love, but for
blood money this couple have and always will
have on thier greedy hands…. NEVER TO BE WASHED
OFF no matter how they try to deny that they
were in fst. care for the LOVE OF CHILDREN and
that the only reason they were ever in it is
the fact that it was a businees that was lucrative
for themselves and nothing more.
Illinois has a Children's Ombudsman to report things to regarding DCFS complaints. The website is http://www.state.il.us/dcfs/library/com_communications_inspector.shtml
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Springfield, IL 62701
(800)-722-9124
2240 W. Ogden
Chicago, IL 60612
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Fax: (312) 433-3032
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and initiated projects designed to improve practice, uncover
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Department. The value and focus of the OIG is the individual life of the child.
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OIG reports are submitted to the Director of DCFS. The OIG also reports to the Governor and the Illinois Legislature. An OIG report contains a summary of the complaint, a historical prospective on the case, including a case history, and detailed information about prior DCFS or private agency contact with the family. An analysis of the findings is provided along with recommendations.
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This is Crabbina – Do any of those posting who are local know how much media coverage this case has gotten? Can you please let us know as we can try to contact the media. This case is crying out for national coverage. Thank you.
THANK YOU RALLY FOR THE VERY INFORMATIVE INFORMATION
YOU LISTED IN GREAT DETAIL FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE
BEEN BAFFLED AS HOW TO EXPRESS OUTRAGE AND PUT DCFS
IN THE HOT SEAT FOR HOW THEY ALLOWED THESE GIRLS
TO EVEN BE ADOPTED BY THIS DESPIVABLE COUPLE.
I HOPE MANY ON THIS BLOG, USE YOUR VALUABLE INFORMATION
TO EXPRESS HOW DISGUSTED WE ALL ARE THAT THE STATE
IS SO IRRESPONSIBLE AND REPREHENSIBLE IN MAKING SURE
CHILDREN UNDER THE STATE'S LEGAL GUARDIANSHIP ARE
PLACED IN HOMES THAT THE FAMILY IS FULLY INVESTIGATED
WITH CHARACTER REFERENCES AS WELL AS STRINGENT
SUPERVISION IN EVERY AREA OF THE CHILD'S LIFE
INCLUDING MOTIVATION FOR WANTING THE FST. CHILDREN
IN A HOME WITH FOUR BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN LIVING THERE
TO BEGIN WITH. I WILL FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT ASP
AND I HOPE THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE TIME TO SHARE
THEIR DISGUST WITH THIS HORRIBLE EXAMPLE OF HOW DCFS
FAILS CHILDREN GET BUSY AND DO THE SAME.
Anonymous April 4, 2012 358p — I do believe both girls dropped Gaskill prior to going to the police about this case.
I know Amber definitely did – not sure about Missy
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Crabbina – I would say this case has not received very much coverage. The two major papers are the Chicago Sun Times and Chicago Tribune. I was kind of shocked not to see any coverage in the Chicago Tribune; but I saw a story in the Chicago Sun Times. The local media has been reporting after each court date.
http://riverforest.suntimes.com/index.html
http://www.oakpark.com/Home/Contact_Us
http://oakpark.patch.com/
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I agree that there needs to be a bigger deal made about the case. The Sex abuse is apalling — but I also cannot understand how so many children were placed in one home.
I was curious about how many children are allowed in a home according to IL DCFS liscensing standards. I found a link here. It says 2009 so not sure how accurate:
http://www.state.il.us/dcfs/docs/Rules%20402%20eff%208-1-2009.pdf
If you go to appendix C it says there are no more than FOUR children with special needs allowed to placed in one home; unless of course there is special permission. Someone at DCFS signed off and made the exception for some many special needs children to placed in the Gaskill home. I would say there is someone at DCFS or the private agency the Gaskill family was working that should be held accountable.
It has recieved coverage from local publication (the oak leaves and wednesday journal), nothing big. Initally there were quite a few articles and the story was run on cbs and fox (i believe). Now there is at least one publication that will run an article after each court date. Any coverage is minimal.
Crabbina, I am so glad you asked about media coverage.
The coverage has been the articles you posted
on this blog in the Oak Park Leaves and
the River Forest Leaves both local to the
community that the Gaskills are known.
The Chicago news-papers only had a small article
when the story first broke due to the fact
of the huge bond that was placed on the accused.
I and many on this blog would agree, that the
Chicago papers should cover this horrible
story that is an example of DCFS FAILING
CHILDREN and allowing them to live in a home
that clearly should have never been allowed
in the first place. The results of such lack
of RESPONSIBILITY speaks volumes in this case.
I agree that really only are local papers
have covered the story only after each court date.
I'm sure DCFS is very happy that the story of
how grossly irresopnsible they are has not been
exposed in the two major Chicago area newspapers.
I believe if reporters were given the whole story
about this entire fiasco, they would expose to
their readers how DCFS fails, and the horrible
consequences that befall innocent children that
depend on them (DCFS) to make sure that a home
these children in the state's care needs to be
a home where the fst. parents are thorughly
investigated and in every way possible qualify
becoming fst. parents in the first place.
Also what kind of home-studies, visits, supervision
did this couple really have? If the examples I
have read on this blog are any indication of
how even the community they lived in had raised
eye-brows on this couple; how is it that these
so called case-workers could not pick up on the
girls unhappiness in the home? The only answer I
can come up with is these children perhaps were
never given an opportunity to speak freely without
the fst. mother and or father in their presence.
Also, this woman sounds like (and husband) to be
very cunning and extremely adept at being able
to present themselves as people that are perfect
parents as well in character, It is to bad the
couple was not reported to DCFS multiple times,
but everthing I havr read I believe DCFS still
would not have done anything as they are obviously
so inept and total failures that the reports may
have not been investigated. The fact that this
family had child after child placed in their care
is beyond apprehension. The media, not just the
community papers, need to hear the ugly facts of
this horrible life these girls lived and put
DCFS in the public domain to not only expose
how they fail children and obviously get away
with it as there seems to be no accountability
or scrutiny that the state of ILL. holds over
them; and they have no one to answer to but
themselves. This story has so many components
that have come out and proves two things for
sure. DCFS does not protect children and lets
childrens lives be ruined due to their failure
to protect them, and that there are fst. parents
that they let through who have one motivation
only, and that is to collect money for doing
nothing but housing children and abusing them
mentally, emotionally, psychologicaly and in this
case add on sexualy.
I honestly feel that the DCFS System is broken and that it doesn't have the skills, the money, the where-with-all to fix itself or be fixed. I'm NOT saying that as long as something 'runs' even if only on 1/2 or less of its cylinders, that attempts to 'fix it' shouldn't be made. I am saying that the road will be very difficult, but perhaps the attempt(s) would gain much needed strength if Missy and Amber's story was used as the riveting, driving, focal point.
Anita Alverez, Cook County State's Attorney, lives right down the street from many of us in River Forest.
People on this BLOG must wonder how so many of us could be 'played' by Mary Gaskill. I might be generous enough to include some of the Caseworkers from DCFS also. She is a bright, manipulative, mesmerizing, crafty, duplicitous, self-serving, skillful liar with a wonderful smile. She has had almost a 'Mansonian' control over many often resulting in actions out of the norm for people under her influence. I don't believe it was just 'giving Mary the power over me and others', but resulted from a carefully skilled and directed manipulation. Some broke off the pathological relationships in a few months, whereas, for others, it took years. When one wises up, her net has already been cast in reeling in another dupe hypnotized by her self-aggrandizement and contrived, salacious stories of her past friends who were "evil" and so "terribly mean" to her after how "good she had been to them".
APRIL IS CHILDHOOD ABUSE AWARENESS MONTH.
I would think if the papers in Chicago receive
copies of this blog or are asked to have
investigative reporters take a long hard look
at another tragic DCFS child abuse story;
they no doubt would write about it and follow
this case closely as the local community papers do.
Crabbina: if you with your expertise in this area
can do anything from your end, you
would be exposing DCFS for the total
failure that they are and how this case
is sadly an example of how poor decisions
and supervision rob children of normal
lives and run a high risk of abuse in
every form when placed in the care of
people who are in it for monteary gains
and not to care and provide a loving,
nurturing home for a child to blossom in.
Look at the situation realistically. How and why would a caseworker not be fooled by Robert and Mary when friends and neighbors who know them much better believe they are pillars of the community? Remember how many supporters the Gaskells had initially. Many of them are powerful, educated, wealthy people. It is asking a lot of a lowly caseworker. It’s easy to say “a trained caseworker should have seen the signs.” (Trained doesn’t mean they get a crystal ball.) You have the advantage of 20/20 hindsight.
DCFS is not perfect. They do make mistakes. In this case, the caseworker made a very understandable mistake and doesn’t deserve to be fired. Instead of demanding heads roll, do something positive. Take the time and energy to think of ways, and act on them, to help make DCFS a more effective agency.
This is Crabbina. Thank you to the posters who clarified the info about the media coverage. We are trying out best to get media coverage. You might also want to check the Sun Times and the Tribune and see which journalists there do investigative reporting on stories like this, and email them or call them and do not let up until you get a response. You can also do the same with the local TV networks.
Does anyone know what the fst. care business
called Tapestry was? It was reported in the paper
that the Gaskills operated this business out of
their home. Was it non-profit, or did they run
this business for financial gain as well?
I would hope the detectives and prosecution
have investegated or are investigating this
"business" they ran out of their home as if
it was for profit they managed to pass themselves
as professionals in the area of fst. care and
mislead and deceived a whole other group of
people.
How will the prosecuters in this Gaskill abuse
case weave into how this home was a home where
sexual abuse happened as the girls were abused
on so many other levels; rendering them vulnerable
and manipulated by the likes of the accused in
this case? Since so many on this blog want their
identity protected; there will be no one on the
stand swearing under oath the many different forms
of abuse they personally witnessed by the mother
in this case. Is giving the court the letters,
copies of this blog, calls to RF police/detectives,
DCFS, state attorney office,attorneys handling this
case a way to testify the true nature and character
of this couple as they speak to the jury on the girl's
behalf? I would hope that information that has been
obtained and given multiple times by many people
would in some way give the jury the whole puzzle
and not just the pieces that the defense and family
have been spinning about these girls from day one.
It is my sincere hope that the state can and will
paint the picture of how this couple are not the
people they scammed DCFS and others in their
own community to be. The couples deceit was picked
up on and known to many people who distanced them-
selves and their own children from this family
as has been stated over and over again on this blog.
Hopefully, the people who have taken the time to
become pro-active for these two girls, will and
are making a difference for the sake of these girls
who outrageously have been and will be dragged
through the mud with every vicious statement about
them coming from the Gaskill family themselves.
In response to April, 5th 4:43Pm: FYI the Gaskills
wanted to be PERCEIVED as pillars of the community
both at St. Luke Parish as wellas Calvery Church OP.
The pillar they placed themselves on in the St. Luke
Parish tumbled down taking them with them.
Next, they tried to be suddenly placed on a pillar
at Calvery Church in Oak Park
. Unfortunately, once again their
pillar that they so desperately wanted to be placed
in this church community tumbled down once again.
They now belong to another church (some where in the
universe) and no doubt have put themselves up on
still another pillar but with this ugly story being
exposed;they have no doubt fallen off another pillar,
with their tale between their legs. The people that
they made sure they rolled elbows with to elevate them-
selves in the community that as you say were powerful,
educated and wealthy were not duped by them for long.
How many of them associate and respect the Gaskills
and did not cut all social ties with them years ago?
Do you really believe these people have held them
in high-esteem these last 15 to 20 years?
If you do, you are so sadly mistaken.
To say that a casworker that works for DCFS should
be cut some slack in this case or any other case
where chidrens' lives and welfare are at stake
is absurd. They are part
of DCFS and DCFS is responsible for cases like
this because DCFS does not hold their employees
accountable as they do not want to be held accountable
period. It has been this way for years. If you really
have read this blog; it is so apparent that people that
have expressed disgust with DCFS are involved in
taking action and yes, want heads to roll no matter
if it is a caseworker or inept supervisor of a caseworker.
All heads need to roll at DCFS. People are doing some-
thing. People are letting DCFS know that this case is
unacceptable and are even questioning how they could
possibly believe placing so many sp. needs children
in one home can benefit any child in that home and
expect that home to be functional and beneficial
to any child is beyond comprehensible.Holding this
agency and exposing and filing complaints against
DCFS is happening; and if you haven't caught on
educated, powerful, wealthy people in RF (as you
pointed out) are involved as the whole community
is outraged and want the state exposed in major media
outlets to educate the public that all of us need
to advocate for children in DCFS care; and the state
of IL is at the center of making changes and reform
in a system that has been broken too long.
That is the way to make DCFS more effective; exposing
their lack of ACCOUNTABILITY even if it means and
no doubt does, making heads roll, as the lives of
innocent children are at stake which requires strict
requirements and serious supervision including
many surprise visits to a home instead of every
visit being scheduled which the fst family makes
it look like everthing is going smoothly and they
are such wonderful fst parents.That my friend,
is how to make DCFS more effective. You need to
read the many blogs that express making sure DCFS
receives complaints and are exposed as that is
the only way this system will change and reform
the way they unfortunately operate.
Re: Tapestry Chicago, I don't think it was really anything. I got to look at it right before it was taken down, and it was just four or five "article/blog entries" written by Rob and Mary and commented ("Great article")on by Rob and Mary. There was info some professionals (lawyer, doctor)that were supposedly experts/has special interest in foster and adopted children; but when you looked them up, there was no indication that they really has any special interest.
When I looked at the time the page was started, it seemed suspiciously concurrent with the time she would have found out that her new pastor/boss was trying to adopt. I think it was just an elaborate plot to get next to him. I may be wrong, but you can't check it out now.
I looked at the Tapestry Chicago website as soon as the arrest of Rob Gaskill was announced. The Tapestry site was accessible the first day. It listed Mary Case as co-founder, then the Doctor ? and Lawyer ? and perhaps, a social worker, and Rob Gaskill as co-founder. There was a FEE to JOIN and to get past the homepage. (Case is the maiden name of Mary Gaskill).
To April 5th-4:43 PM Your defense of a caseworker/or caseworkers makes me think you or someone you know is
a casworker at DCFS. If not, you are more outraged
about people on this blog pointing fingers at DCFS
as a whole entity from top to bottom (including case-workers,
then the girls who not only suffered in the home; but have
been totally thrown under the bus by the Gaskill family
with allegations the girls are mentally ill, liars, and even
try to say FAS is part of their so called deranged allegations.
Why is it that the Gaskills kept them in their home as long
as they did if the girls needed serious mental health care?
Gee, let me think….mmm the girls like the Gaskills were
able to not show any of these signs to DCFS including reports
from a top school district that has every resource available
to help children with mental health issues receive help
and would have intervened on the girls behalf if their
mental status was in any way presenting itself in the
classroom; and from complaints of parents of their peers
as they no doubt, would have heard from their children
that the girls were troubled as well.Maybe I am missing
something here. DCFS caseworkers understandably were
duped also by the impaired mental status of the girls
like they were understandbly duped by the Gaskills
being the next thing to "ROYALTY" in the community,
as after all they were so loved by educated, powerful
and wealthy people in the community? Are you kidding?
You need to read Mar. 20-11:04AM on this blog.
The person who wrote it points out that Amber was more
needy and had a speech impediment that was never really
addressed and was allowed to continue without outside
speech therapy she could have received in addition to the speech services she was receiving in the school district.
I guess it is totally understandable that a caseworker
would be duped by the child herself. Obviously, the case-worker could not hear the speech impediment because the
child was able to hide it so well and the case-worker
was duped again.People on this blog and others in the community, in case it is not apparent to you, are stepping
up holding the whole DCFS (including your lowly case worker)
totally accountable and have and are actually pursuing
ways to get the word out to the public at large as the
only way to make DCFS (become more effective as you stated)
is to do it in a way that people joined together make
DCFS feel the heat and be forced to make significant
changes and major reform to prevent child neglect, and
abuses of every nature that all too often children in the system suffer because there is a lack of ACCOUNTABILITY
in this whole agency that needs to be in place; so
children receive the best care and home possible.
One person can not change DCFS or any state agency that
fails miserably. However, people joined together (which
is happening and taking place)can force DCFS through public
awareness that they need to stop FAILING CHILDREN and
do everything possible to PROTECT CHILDREN PLACED IN A
FST.HOME FROM SUFFERING ABUSE and yes, getting rid of
(lowly case workers-as you stated) as EVERYONE in the
agency needs to be held to high standards and accountability.
What are you doing may I ask, with your time and energy to
as you put it help make DCFS a more effective AGENCY?
When you come up with more ways than what people on this
blog are already doing WITH THEIR TIME AND ENERGY……
LET US KNOW……..WE WILL BE WAITING…….
To Anonymous April 6, 12:11: No, Gaskills are still in the pillar stage at their new church. They know about the allegations, but consider it a lie/Satan's work. They even have a financial fund to help the family.
Ever notice how these kind of people (Gaskills) always work in churches and Christian organizations? I don't think they could get away with their garbage in the real world. They always plant themselves where there are a lot of weak-minded, easily influenced people who don't know how hard life is outside their bubble.
I find it interesting that perhaps Mary Gaskill has
a priest/pastor groupie complex. She always wanted to be
close to priest at St. Luke and other priests she
knew in the Chicago Archdiose. Of course that ended
at St. Luke due to false allegations against a priest
that drove her and her family out of the parish in
short order.
The family then dropped beind devout Catholics, and
amazingly switched to a prodesdent church in Oak Park.
The whole time she was here (calvery)she tried to befriend our former popular and loved pastor; which in the long run
this pastor and his wife and family relocated to another
state due to this woman trying so hard to hang out with
the pastor and even causing the wife of the pastor to
be irritated on how she tried to intrude into the
families life as well. Many people at Calvery (myself
included) believe if she never came to Calvery our beloved pastor would still be here as he and his family
were very fond of the chuch as well as living and
raising their sons in Oak Park.
Now, I just read the blog about this woman trying
to help a pastor adopt just to be close to him as
well, It seems there is a pattern here; of a woman
that needs to be close and elevating herself in a
church community by flaunting how chummy she is
with the church pastors, and in St Lukes case the
priests and the pastor.
I find this more than a coincidence, and I think it
proves this woman seeks adulation and loves to
tell people how close she is with the church pastor
or priest as if people (in her eyes are wishing they
were close to the pastor or priest). People thought
she really had a problem and many here at Calvery to
this day wish she never came here as she was a
driving force that made our former pastor leave a
church commuity that he loved and a area that he
and his family loved living in.
I wonder if anyone else has noted this weird obsession
with her wanting to be QUEEN BEE in a church community.
I have known the Gaskills for years
The person that said they looked up the Gaskills
Tapestry on line is correct.It was not exactly
a non-profit group to advocate Fst. Parenting/adpt
to"help" people and educate them how to pusue fst.
parenting and or adoption. I went to the site right
before the sight was taken down. It was set up like
a businessas jiust to get info other than the home-page
there was a fee involved first, and then you could
acess the sight after you paid the fee. I thought
immediately that this was a out of home "business"
for the Gaskills and not a phlionthropic endeavor
on their part. The site was taken down fairly quick.
If it was something that would reflect them in a favor-
able light; it would still be up and running as they
would want the sight to show what generous people
they are by finding time ( with their busy schedule
of taking care of all those needy children)has a way
to "advocate" for children in fst. care as if they
were experts in the field no less.The business was
mentioned in a news article so the info was obviously
known about when it was on the sight they created.
I'm sure everything they were involved with has and
is being investigated by investigators on the case.
If they were making money as a side business , I'm
sure it has been noted and sheds light on how passing
themselves off again as something they are not;
( experts in fst/adp), is no different to passing
themselves off as the perfect religious pillars
of two communities , RF and OP,that many in both
communities have known for a very long time the phonies
they are as well as their motives of becoming fst.
which is and always has been about money.
The Tapestry business no doubt was profitable, as if
they were so proud of what their involvement was,
it would still be available to acess on line.
April 6 12:11
Thanks for updating thatb the Gaskills have once
again found another home base church; and are
enjoying being once again on a pillar by people
who eventually will be wondering later, how they
bought into their convincing persona that they
use to their advantage, as you stated these kind
of weak-minded people are easily manipulated by
people like the Gaskills because once they find
out that they are so dedicated to fst.care and
are all about caring for children and are selfless,
they elevate them as people who must be so giving
that they give up their lives to devote to caring
for needy and disabled children.
Is it not surprising that these cult like individuals,
start pointing that Satan is attacking them ( Gaskills)
and everything that has and is happening is Satan
trying to take them down and sadly really believe
that they have been victimized and targeted by Satan
himself. The real facts that exsist that caused the
trouble(which they were guilty of for years), are
totally ignored and deemed fabricated by two deranged
liars and even people that have shared their negative
experiences are all in Satans hands and are really
Satan himself attacking them because they are just
such Godjy people.
It is intersting but not surprising, that their followers
are raising money for them. What happened to all the
money they took in from the state and their own jobs?
Perhaps, as someone posted on this blog; Mrs. Gsaskill
was a big spender on herself and family (excluding fst.
care children) and does not have a sizeable bank-account.
However, they did take in tax-free income, so how could
they not have money saved to help them pay their lawyer
fees? The couple needs to look at the trouble they are in
and face the hard fact that they themselves not Satan,
have brought them to this juncture in their lives.
All they both have to do is look in the mirror, they
are the cause not Satan, for the abuse and suffering
they both comitted against the two girls that were
robbed of a normal childhood;and for years suffered
silently the abuse that the accused is now facing
and standing trial for.
Apr.7-12:31 AM
Your comment about Mrs. Gaskill wanting to
be as you put it "QUEEN BEE" in whatever
church community she was in is so true.
She always as well as her husband, actively
propelled themselves to be high profile
as they wanted everyone to know how christian
and religious they were and they were so
much better than the other church members.
It is my experience, that people that need to
wear their faith in God "on their sleeve",
and parade around as being better than anyone
else; are people that have problems and they
use their religious piety to elevate themselves
to be viewed(in their perception)as beyond approach
in character, morals and values. Often, these kind
of "wear it on your sleeve " people "wear it on their
sleeve" because they all too often "WANT" others
to see them and reward them with adulation as they
really are hiding who they really are behind the
facade of their faith. Obviously, many devout
Christians from any demonation, PRACTICE and LIVE
their faith and do NOT SEEK ADULATION as faith is
a relatinship between you and your God; and live
thier lives by living their faith and practicing
their faith quietly. It is often a red flag when
people "wear their religion on their sleeve",
as it does make one think why they feel they need
to flaunt "how holy they are". Sadly, many times
these kind of people hide behind their religion;
as religion becomes their way of covering up who
they really are; which often does not reflect
the image they are working so hard at being in
the eyes of their religious community.
Many cases like this one involving people with
this same profile are even on this very forum
as well as the news. The Sandusky case while not
identical, is very close to this story; including
religious ties as well as a wife that is very
much like Mrs. Gaskill. I personally have always
thought that if you have to wear your "religion
on your sleeve" and flaunt your faith, you truly
are not practicing your faith.Faith needs only to
be a personal relationship with the Lord and living
your faith each day by quietly practicing His
teachings and living a life that reflects your
love of God by your actions and how you treat others.
There is no need to "wear religion on your sleeve",
as actions speak louder than words. I was rasied
with a simple concept that I have raised my own
children with since they were toddlers.
It is not a secret, nor is it hard, it is plain
and simple. Treat others the way you would like
to be treated,be kind to everyone you meet, and
most of all trust in God and practice his teachings
by simply living your faith everday.
Do you think the new church they go to is the one in Brookfield where their son in law is the youth minister? It would make sense that they would go there now. I would think there would have to be some kind of a fund started for them as how else would they come up with the bond money?
April 6, 2012 12:55PM
The Church is called Cornerstone Community Church-right? in Riverside, Illinois tho initially I was told it was in Western Springs or somewhere out in the Western suburbs. Unbelievable that to learn that yet another community is being duped.
I happen to know the (Edwards family) long
time Calvery membersas I attend and I am active
in my church community (Calvery);and after the
Gaskills left under questionable circumstances,
it was common knowledge that they became members
of the church their son-inlaw is a youth pastor.
The church is in Brookfield IL and is as the blogger
before me said Cornerstone Community Church is the
correct name of the church.
The sad part of them attending church there is this
family is like poisin ivy; and to become close with
them in any way is very risky.
The son in-law is part of a very wonderful and
and truly worthy of high regard (Edwards Family)
who live and practice their faith in every aspect
in their lives and are loved by many people not
only at Calvery but around the world.
The son in-law comes from a missionary family who
like the rest of the family are loving and genuine
caring people. The son in-law is a wonderful young
man and the Gaskill daughter he married is as sweet
as can be.It is too bad that the Gaskill couple are
involved in their son in-laws church as it no
doubt will be uncomfortable and awkward for the
young youth pastor as the Gaskills like everywhere
else they have ever been, will be a negative
influence in this church as well. I'm sure they
have attracted and duped weak-minded people with
the their spin on the girls that have came forward
seeking justice that they so clearly deserve.
I doubt the amount of bond money was raised in
such a short time by their new church. The Gaskills
are not above asking for money from family members
and maybe even took money out on the equity of their
home. The fund that has been established is no doubt
being used for all their expenses and paying bills
as the income from the state has been cut and they
will have to pay back the sources of the money they
borrowed. The fund better stay in place a long time
as they are going to need it.
Brookfield is an average and middle class comunity,
and I seriusly doubt they can raise the kind of
money they need as the economic status is hard working
people who need money for their own families, and
pay for their own bills. I hope the Gaskill couple
do not ruin their son-inlaws churh as they have in
two other church communities; but their presence
there is unfortunate for these unsuspecting church
members as they wii no doubt become tangled in their
web of lies and it sounds like it has already started.
Thanks for all of the new information. If you have information that would help the new community be aware of red flags and to be cautious of involvement, you could contact the new church with your concerns. If they are in this church, the contact information is at http://www.cornerstone-grow.org/CCC/Welcome.html Usually people respond better to those with first-hand information.
I was under the impression that the gaskill's were not involved with their son in laws church. Last I heard they were pretty involved with willow chicago, a branch of willow creek church that meets downtown.
Apr 10 6;29
The Gaskills do attend and are members of
the church in Brookfield, Il. If they had
any affiliation with Willow Chicago,downtown
in the past, that is not the case now or has
it been since they left Calvery abruptly
due to unethical behavior on Mrs. Gaskill's
part, in a job position she held for a couple
of years. Also, her daugther and son in-law,
now have a beautiful baby boy and attending the
church has become a family place of worship
and when they left Calvery, it made sense to
attend this church especially with their family ties.
Has anyone out there been able to get the attention
on the two major Chicago newspapers to do a special
report on this case? I have e-mailed both papers
twice and have heard nothing back. I am going to try
reaching tv news reporter Channel nine, Mark Sulpussa
as he is an investigative reporter and often covers
stories that should or need to be coverd in the
media to educate and bring awareness to a story
where corruption, deceit or in this case, the lack
of DCFS's protecting children in their care, and
are trying to sweep this case under the carpet as
no news outlets have carried the story as the community
papers in RF and OP where this couple lives and has
ties in both communities.
I'm hoping that if they get enough e-mails and or calls,
they will report on this story before April 26, when
the case goes to trial. Also, I have pointed out to
both Chicago newspapers that this story needs public
awareness as this story is one of many that happen
and are constantly covered up somehow by DCFS.
It is time DCFS is out in the public arena to
educate people on how DCFS needs and has needed
major reform from top to bottom in protecting
children and making sure fst. homes are investigated
intenseley even after during the post-adoption phase
as these girls did not receive post-adoption visits
and supervision after their adoption. It would have
benn easy as DCFS obviously was in this home on
a continual basis as they loaded up this home with
a ridicoulos number of SP. needs children which
in itself needs EXPLAINING.
Since reading all the comments I feel both Robert and Mary should both be investigated.What they both did is disgusting. How sad to be so desperate for money that you would ruin a childs life.
I tried for 3 hours to post this at the Forest Leaves–never was able to as the system was not accepting new posts. I felt that readers there should get a handle on most bloggers' concerns.
As of 9:00AM, there are 180 posts on the Reform Talk Site:
http://reformtalk.blogspot.com/2012/02/how-could-you-hall-of-shame-robert.html
It is interesting to note that the oakparkobserver on 3-26-2012 posted here a verbatim post from the Blog Site (see 3-26-12, 10:32AM) leaving out the first line: "Well, after reading all this, I can thank God that Rob was not black because the rush to judgment would be even worse." I wonder why this was posted on the Reform Talk Site and NOT on this one (Forest Leaves)?
I would like to point out that the majority of the Blogs are negative to the Gaskills, but very FEW address the allegations against Mr. Gaskill; rather most people are concerned over the failure of DCFS in not identifying this home as an abusive one in which the foster/adopted children were treated much differently than the bio-children. These children were subjected to personal, mental, verbal and isolating abuse by both Mr. and Mrs. Gaskill.
Furthermore, there are a vast number of bloggers who are having a difficult time coming to terms with knowing some of what was going on in the home and severing connections with the family rather than reporting the events to DCFS or other protective services.
This is as honest as it gets.
To Apr.2,12:46 PM Your statement, "I have known the Gaskills
for years". Your statement is just a fact (Unfortunately)
that you like many on this blog are in the same category.
Perhaps you are one of the few that has stuck by them for
years; and are still supporting them despite the allegations
and their pattern of mental and emotional abuse as well.
That is your progerative, so good for you.
I can say with honesty that many many people that knew
the Gaskill family for years even before fst. parenting;
and for a good number of years while foster parenting,
can make the statement you made.We all witnessed the cruel
parenting on behalf of these two young ladies while they
were growing up. Some of us cut ties with them permanently,
and some of us who knew too much of what was going on
behind closed doors(Gaskills figured out as Mary was very
perceptive as well as secretive) and she sensed disapproval
on the treatment of the girls were banished by the Gaskills
themselves for fear of perhaps reporting to DCFS as many
have lamented on this blog.
We all did not care to be around them as we witnessed,
heard and sometimes disagreed with Mary on the verbal
abuse and unfair treatment and rules that the girls had
imposed on them and we wised up and did not want to
be a part of their lives anyway, but Mary liked to make
you feel like she dumped you (truth was we were at the
point anyway as we knew they were phonies) and none of
us wanted to know anything more about their lives period.
Sadly, we thought incorrectly, that DCFS would find
out just by talking to the girls alone but that never
happened and now in hind sight we all wish we could
turn back the clock and taken the Gaskills to task
by reporting the facts we knew to be true to DCFS
at that time.
All of us in the above categories do not believe the
are lying. Sadly, since they suffered the abuses
mentioned above, we can see and understand that these
girls MORE THAN LIKELY SUFFERED SEX ABUSE in that home,
no matter what SPIN the Gaskills are putting out there
including the latest that SATAN HIMSELF IS ATTACKING
THEM and the girls no doubt are SATAN in the flesh to
them and only prayer will save them from this EVIL FORCE.
Luckily, the justice system will be seeking justice
for the girls from the true source of EVIL; the ACCUSED
HIMSELF. It is too bad his wife is not being charged
with childhood abuse as she dished plent out for years
and she as well as her husband is and always has been
EVIL HERSELF>
I too have tried reaching reporters from the
two major newspapers and have not received
responses even after e-mailing three times.
I also have left voice-mail ans still am
waiting to hear back. I am begining to think
that because Chicago is very good at hiding things
as they are so corrupt; as well as our governor
Pat Quinn, the state may not want this case to
have anymore exposure than it already has in the
two community newspapers. I really think on some
corrupt level they do not want attention drawn to
DCFS since it is run by the state of IL.
However, by not exposing cases like this, IL is
as guilty as DCFS in failure to protect children
in state care; and if that is the case, it is very
sad that in the state of IL child welfare is not
a priority. DCFS looking good seems to be what the
state is interested in PROTECTING not CHILDREN.
Bloggers on this site that have lamented not getting the attention of DCFS are geniunely sorry for not acting on
what they knew to be true: the Gaskills were cruel and
abusive to the girls and treated these girls when they were
older as servants in the home. Their bio-girls never did
half the amount of chores that the fst/adp girls had to do.
These girls from the time they were toddlers were treated
despically, with mental and verbal abuse even in the presence
of outsiders. To say many people feel so guilty is an under-
statement. We have no defense other than we mistakenly thought
DCFS would surely pick uo on this from visiting and talking
with the girls privately when they were older. I myself,
after removing myself as far away from this family as I
could; often wondered when the girls were older why they did
not complain about their treatment in this dysfunctional home.
Another reason also was people, myself included, knew how really
distutbed Mary Gsskill was and is, and did not want to deal
with the vicious side of her personality. She was very adept
at being irrational and intimidated people that she viewed
as enemies or just did not like.
The two above examples for people not getting involved were
ignorence about DCFS; and fear of the wrath of Mary Gaskill.
Everyone on this blog have been very honest and looking
back we wish we would have reported to DCFS and not trusting
them so much with the welfare of these girls. Also, Mary's
irrational and erratic behavior should not have matterd as
we could have given information and protected are identities
at the same time. The cold hard fact is we wanted to get
away from this couple and were not pro-active as we should
have been in spite of the likes of a Mary Gaskill.
DCFS failed these girls for sure; but we as a community that
knew the Gaskills should not have been fst parents to begin
with, failed them as well.
The only thing we can do now is to do what many of us have
been doing by contacting authorities that are over seeing
this case and giving them the picture of two people who
are not only cruel but were and are comfortable exploiting
children for money from the state(DCFS) and were allowed
by DCFS to even take in more children for the money as well.
I honestly hope these girls file a suit against the Gaskills
as soon as they can; and receive some kind of settlement
with the state for sime kind of restitution for allowing
these girls to suffer in that home for nearly their entire
lives. Also, I hope Mr. Gaskill receives the punishment
he deserves; and that his wife not be allowed to have any
fst children in her care. Any child the state allowed to be
adopted by the two of them should be subject to a review
in court and have the adoption revoked as these parents
are nothing but foxes in sheeps clothing.
Gaskills, If you read this blog (I hope you do),
it is my hope and everyone on this blog;
and many others in the community that
are too disgusted with the two of you,
(as well as upset with themselves) that they
can't even read or write in this blog;
as they are so sickened by what they
have known to have exsisted in your
home and feel sickened and remorseful
for thinking DCFS would find out about
the snakes you two are; gave DCFS too much
credit) and now realize that not getting
involved was a huge mistake. Also, Mary, it
is clear you and your disturbed mind intimidated
people to the point that they needed to
seperate themselves and even children that were
friends with your bio-children as it became
not only apparent but necessary to protect
ourselves and our children from your disturbing
behavior and abnormal home. We are not sad for
you and your husband as you "reap what you sow",
and now it all has come home to roost and you
both are in the position you are in.
THE TWO OF YOU
are and were leeches receiving money for
CHILDREN
you abused in so many obvious ways that have
been dicussed on this blog; as well as the
abuse your husband is standing trial for.
HORRIBLY SICKENING
Whatever religion you have practiced or
practice now, you sadly do not even practice
the very basic and most important words
that people of faith live by: "LOVE ONE
ANOTHER AS I LOVE YOU"-"WHATEVER YOU DO
FOR THE LEAST OF MY BROTHERS, YOU DO IT
FOR ME".
These girls are God's children. They were
in need of a healthy home with PARENTS
that would LOVE them and make their
childhood EVERYTHING a child deserves,
and in their case even MORE LOVE AND CARE
as they came into this world needing a
family other than the one they were born
into to provide them with a loving, caring
and stable home to grow up in.
YOU BOTH FAILED THESE GIRLS IN ALL AREAS
AND: TOOK AWAY THEIR WHOLE
CHILDHOOD AND INNOCENCE
THAT THEY WILL LIVE
WITH THE REST OF THEIR
LIVES.
HOW YOU TWO SLEEP OR EVER SLEPT DURING
THE NIGHT IS BEYOND
COMPREHENSION
MAYBE, NOW THAT THE GIRLS HAVE FINALLY
BROKEN THEIR SILENCE……
THE TWO OF YOU ARE HAVING MANY
SLEEPLESS NIGHTS…
AS YOU FINALLY ARE EXPOSED FOR
RUINING TWO INNOCENT
PRECIOUS LIVES THAT SADLY
ENDED UP IN YOUR
HANDS
TOO BAD YOU TWO REALLY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT
HOW PEOPLE WHO LIVE
THEIR FAITH
LIVE THEIR LIVES
Apr 11,12:44
Thank you for summing up what many of us
have felt about the Gaskills using religion
to hide behind and shield themselves from the
people they really are and always have been.
Personaly, I have always felt that when people
blatantly want you to know how Christian they
are and go overboard drawing attention to
themselves; more often than not, they want
to be noted and noticed. They love the
adulation they think will elevate their
status in their church community as well
as the community they live in.
It is obvious the status they worked at achieving
played a role in how they wanted to be perceived;
and the perception they wanted others to have of
them.
They used this false religious persona to dupe
many people and no doubt DCFS.
Faith is something you live in your everday walk
in life. Living by one's faith is not for show. To love,respect,care and give of yourself unselfishly to others
is all that is required. Our actions guided by are faith
is the only thing that matters.Faith is not loud. Faith is
not for show. Faith need not be flaunted, True faith is
simply practiced in our lives as we share our lives with
others. Faith is quiet. Faith is kind. Faith is love.
Faith is repect for all human life. Faith is caring for the
most vulnerable among us. Faith is protecting and loving
the most vulnerable. Faith is not selfish. Faith is everything
that we can do to make life better for those less fortunate.
The girls that suffered in the Gaskill home suffered in a
home where faith did not live and was a false PRETENSE
in every sense of the word.
I think the Gaskills in every aspect of their
lives, especially their bible thumping (Mary was
(known to have bible studies on her front porch)
and false piety can be summed up without saying
anything else-HYPOCRITES
Check it out:
http://oakpark.patch.com/articles/robert-gaskill-reform-message-board-river-forest-indictment-bond-house-arrest
A local publication responds to the request for more media coverage:
http://oakpark.patch.com/articles/robert-gaskill-reform-message-board-river-forest-indictment-bond-house-arrest
False religious persona? If someone believes in God and dedicates their life to their religion, how is that false? Do you personally know the Gaskills so well that you know their beliefs are false? I know many of their children and their beliefs are certainly not FALSE. They didn't try to draw attention to their religion, they were simply noticed BECAUSE of their dedication to it. For people to say that Mary must be held accountable for some of this is absurd. What makes you think that these two girls would turn their father in and just "forget" to mention their mother had anything to do with it or had any idea it was happening? Grouping her into the supposed crimes is wildly unfair to a woman who dedicated her life to taking children in who needed help. I know for a fact she loves her children with every morsel in her body and would not let something like this go on if she knew. Let's not forget that people are INNOCENT until proven GUILTY. I'm doubtful of this "confession" that is being reported. If it happened it wouldn't be a random line in the middle of an article. Let's let the JUDGE decide what's real and what's right, you all should stick to your day jobs. For those of you spouting religious nonsense, you're no better Christians than the people you're pointing fingers at by being judgmental before anything has been proven.
Perhaps Mary loves her children on some very basic primal maternal level, however, EVERYTHING else that I have read, regarding her phony pseudo religious lifestyle, her behavior, her narcissistic obsession with popularity, the police calls, the spreading of lies about people, the threats to others, the absolute phoniness of her life is all very familiar. ANYONE WHO DEFENDS HER IS A FOOL. Her whole life has been a phony one act play. She is a product of totally dysfunctional upbringing that goes way back. She has just brought the dysfunction up a notch, and some very innocent children became the victims. There is no way that her husband is the only one to blame in this scenario. Perhaps the sickness will finally come to an end.
The Gaskills were totally DEVOUT CATHOLICS ( at least
that is how they were perceived and wanted to perceive);
yet were forced to leve because Mary falsely accused
a young immigrant priest that she CHOSE to be CHUMMYY
with of making inappropriate sexual advances toward her.
A full investigation was done and the young priest was
vindicated. Her allegations were a blatant lie. The
pastor knew the accusations were bogus from the start
as Mary (unfortunately was known to have issues).
People in the parish were totally baffled by her
motives for the allegations. Instead of facing the
parish congregation and sticking it out, she left
the church in short order; leaving her devotion to
(she attended mass daily) of a religion she was
passionately dedicated too.
We all know the rest of the story. Calvery was all
of a sudden embraced full force over night.
She and her family were there for several years
until she blew it once again. The elders of Calvery
confronted Mary with some serious issues regarding
unethical behavior (having to do with finances)
in a office job she held at the church. Mary was
asked to leave. The elders sent a letter out to ALL
members informing them of her absence and asked that
the members not gossip about it and they wished Mary
well. Again, she switched to an unknown chuch that
was reaveled on this blog as a small church in
Brookfield.
If you call everything listed above someone who is dedicated
to faith in God and lives it that is your choice.
Her children are innocent as they were and are not the sources of the problem in this family.
When it comes to practicing faith, actions speak louder
than words; and running around flaunting religious beliefs
is not what is needed or required by God.In fact it is the
opposite. You live your faith in every aspect of your life.
Wearing it on your sleeve as someone pointed out on this
blog is a red flag. You are absouletly right about Mary
loving her children with every morsel in her body.
Those children are her bio-children. You apparently
bought into her dedication to fst. parenting needy children
as a example of "her love of children". Foster care weas
and has always been a business for her and her husband
as they became foster parents for the money they received
per child each month. If she truly loved the girls (who
were as sweet as can be) there would not be anyone
on this blog speaking about the abuse (verbal and mental)
they witnessd on this blog that the two of them participated in and sadly abuses of one kind in fst. care makes it
more likely for abuse of the nature that her husband has
been charged with. Read about similiar cases. The Sandusky
case has many parallels to this one.
You are naieve to think a predator would not cover their
tracks. FYI the verdict will be decided by a jury, not
the judge. Remember? A grand jury indidited him to begin with.
okay, let's say their "beliefs" are not false. Let's also say that their interpretation of "beliefs" took on a whole new meaning when Mary felt it was her obligation to write numerous letters to people she believed were the "devil." Who does that? What type of a person passes judgment on another and decides they should be notified in writing that they are evil and doing the devil's work? And, these letters always followed a disagreement or difference of opinion with Mary. Mary seemed to be aware of every person in River Forest who was kibbitzing with the devil, and low and behold…the devil was right there in her very own house!!! It gives me the chills thinking about it. Really, if Mary had been taking care of business at home and cooking, cleaning and raising children…shouldn't she have been too busy to write these letters? How many out there received one of her letters or was the object of one of her letters going to someone else? I don't know, maybe people should have notified DCFS early on, because I'll tell you one thing…if the tables were turned and Mary thought you were doing something improper, she would have written lettr and made phone calls until some type of action was taken. Anyway, it doesn't matter about their religion…ROB ADMITTED GUILT.
The Gaskill childrens' faith has nothing to do
with any abuses the two girls suffered in the Gaskill
home. I know the Gaskill bio-girls and know the
two girls in this case as I knew them at their
former church Calvery. The bio-girls were from
everything I knew of them to all be very fine
young girls. The two fst/adpt girls were also sweet
and pleasant. The children should not even be
talked about at all. Although, it seems to have been
fair game for dispariging remarks about the two girls
have been expoused by the parents as a defense that
they are liars and can not be trusted.
This is a sad situation for the bio-children as
they are not responsible for either parents'
treatment of the fst/adpt girls .
I think the bio-girls are wonderful young women
in their own right. The fst/adpt girls I'm sure
if they were really loved as evident with the
bio-children, this case would not exsist as they
would have never suffered abuse of any kind.
One thing is for sure, the Gaskills love their
bio-children and would do anything for them.
That's what loving parents do.
Sadly, the two girls were not given the same love
and dedication and there were times at Calvery
that you could not help but notice that the two
girls were not treated equally.
They deserved to be with a family that perhaps
did not have children of their own; and would
of had the love and attention they needed,
without having to compete with bio-children that
were clearly loved and cherished by their bio-parents.
DCFS should think out what family children are placed
in. This family already had the responsibility to
love and raise their own children and it does seem
that they could only care for these girls but not
ever truly loving them enough to make sure the girls
had the perfect childhood their own children were
blessed with having. Some people can not love a child
that is biologically not theirs and I think that
is evident in all the information that is coming
out on how the girls were treated in the home.
To Apr 12 10:49 AM
How many wives know and think it is ok for
their spouse to do anything like what the accused is alleged to have done to these girls? I would say none.
I'm sure IF this really happened, his wife was probably
not around and the girls kept this secret for reasons
that they only know. This man is innocent until proven
guility. However, the way these girls were treated bt what
people on this blog are saying they witnessed, does cast
dispersions on the home envioriment. That is what the jury
will have to determine during the prosecution of this case.
I feel sad for everyone in this case. There are no winners
here. Just a lot of people who have lost their lives one
way or another.
I agree that the bio-girls seemed very nice.
Quite honestly, I think they had to know how the two
girls were treated unfairly as they lived in the home
and no doubt witnessed what people on this blog have
noted about the treatment od the girls.
Also, growing up they saw the way their mother was
constantly a busy body worrying about everyones'
business while guarding her own like a junk yard dog.
She also was very unkind and vindictive to people that
crossed her the wrong way or at times did not do
anything at all. Is it no wonder people in this community
did not want to be around her and her family whenthey
saw how the two girls were treated and did not call DCFS?
Looking back, people that distanced themselves from
this family, should have reported to DCFS, and no doubt
reports would not be isolated and maybe the girls would
have been removed from the home. Although, I think that
is giving DCFS too much credit as they saw fit to keep
placing children (with SP needs no less) into this
highly dysfunctional home with a woman who could not
even take care of her own mental problems as she was
the most self-centered person ypu ever could meet.
It is only logical that her bio-children had to witness
all of that behavior as well.How this affected their
own lives growing up, only they can answer. If they rose
above it and are not impacted negatively in any way as
adults that seems impossible. I'm sure they are or have
tried to forget everthing they saw and experienced, but
I'm sure they had to be troubled by their mother's
troubled behavior. Since she is their mother they might
have chosen to ignore the behavior as children
and never saw their mother in a negative light.
Nevertheless, the children are in no way responsible
for their mothers behavior and right now their focus
is on their father. I just wonder if they look back
and feel that their mother was a driving negative force
in that home, that contributed to the trouble their
father is in today.Their bio-children who are innocent
and I'm sure very worried children right now, were also
victims in the sense that they lived and witnessed
abnormal behavior on their mothers part growing up;
as well as abusive treatment of the two girls.
They are suffering something right now that they
are no doubt sick with worry over, and they so
do not deserve this trouble in their family as they
now are victims themselves.How can they not resent
their parents decision to become foster parents to
begin with?
I agree with the previous commenter that all the other children in the home would be affected if these allegations are true. Witnessing abuse or neglect is a horrible thing.
For those that were sent letter(s) by Mary, do any of you still have those? Could those be scanned and sent to the prosecutor?
"ANYONE WHO DEFENDS HER IS A FOOL." Really? You sound so unbelievably judgmental. Anyone who says something like that or groups people together based on their beliefs is the real fool. The problem here is that you believe everything you read. And how can you say the Gaskills became foster parents because of the money they earned every month? Who are you to make the decision that they felt that? It baffles me that people are so judgmental and jump to such conclusions. A few bad choices in life does not make you someone who is capable of harming your children or turning a blind eye when they are being abused. Am I saying that Mary is a saint in every aspect of her life? No. But does she need to be grouped in with her husband (if these allegations are even true) or have her life destroyed even more and her love for her children doubted just because she made some poor choices? If someone examined your every poor choice and deemed you a terrible person or mother for those mistakes, how would you feel? None of us would be considered "good people." Cut the freaking woman a break! She didn't abuse her children. She cared for ALL of her children, biological or not. You read a bad story (which is most likely false) and you choose to run with it. It's sad and Mary's life is already destroyed regardless of what happens from here. Bashing her on this website won't change anything. If she sent mean letters to people, so what? That doesn't make her an abusive mother. It doesn't make her a great person but no one is asking for you all to become best friends with her. It's not illegal to be opinionated or operate in different ways than others. Her life is already drastically changed and the only way she has to go is up from here.
The real question, 10:09, is which social worker approved this home for so many special needs children? Both Gaskills worked for welfare agencies and this whole case is suspect for cronyism. With multiple special needs children, they were making a lot of money from the state.Were waivers given to have that many children? Questions about her character are warranted when this many stories are being told about how she interacted in the community. Asking questions is not the same as convicting. Examining and discussing is not evil or the favorite Gaskill-loving term "judgmental." When you can't engage in a real argument, the only thing you can do is whine about others being "judgmental."
COPS ARE LIARS. THE INTERNET IS FULL OF MORONS. GASKILL WILL BE VINDICATED AND MOST OF YOU WILL NEVER READ THAT FOLLOW UP. I HOPE PEOPLE JUDGE YOU EVERY MOMENT OF YOUR PATHETIC LIVES.
TO THE PERSON THAT POSTED THESE ARTICLES; YOU ARE PARTICIPATING IN HERESAY, REVEAL YOURSELF SO THAT YOU TOO MAY BE JUDGED.
Anonymous April 13, or should I say Sara Michelle? Reveal YOURSELF so the River Forest cops can sue you for slander.I agree that you are a moron. We are all judged every moment of our lives by God. Remember that.
While the most important issue at hand is the future of these two young women, an issue that also needs to be addressed is the question of how the Gaskills were able to fool DCFS for so long. As most of the above have stated, initially they were duped by the Gaskills so-called phony religious zeal, but ultimately one realizes that it doesn't take very long for the flaws to become glaringly apparent. How they could continually receive children in their home is so wrong. Mary's sickness is so far-reaching and so Machiavellian it should be used as a template by DCFS for future caseworker training. As the mother of this family and primary care-giver someone (case worker) should have seen the red flags at some point. This case has implications that go far beyond it's face value and hopefully this will bring it to light.
To APRIL 12 10:09 PM……the judgement on Mary goes much farther back than you obviously know and is not based on any of the above. However, any judgement is now VALIDATED by these stories. The descriptions of her bizarre behavior, manipulation and life of duplicity and deceit are finally coming to light in print because of this blog. This behavior has been going on for decades. So for you to judge me, only shows that you are among the group who has not yet seen the light. Get off your holier than thou perch. I only hope that someone can organize a group to attend the court hearings to support these girls. Based on this blog I'm sure we could pack the courtroom to rival the defense. Whether or not Rob Gaskill is guilty as charged remains to be seen, but chronicles, over the years, of his wife's sick and twisted behavior could fill a library and why the hell she still has kids in her care is even more criminal!
Rally, I remember when Mary caused trouble with the priest
in our parish, St. Luke and since many were
critical of her, she sent quite a few unkind
letters to whoever she beilived to now be her
enemies. Some of us once were friends with her and
until then tried to not let her stong personality
bother us. We knew Mary could be hard to deal with
but we tried to stay on good terms with her; really
many times letting things she said or did that were
unexpected or strange behavior go; as we learned
how to deal witrh her in spite of her bossy nature.
I received an "unkind" letter, but I was not
surprised as Mary was more than capable letting
you know she was " angry' and I did not let the
letter get to me. I wish I kept it, but since it
was a bunch of garbage, that is where it ended up.
Later, I found out I was not the only receipient
of a letter that was "unkind". I don't know if anyone showed the police (as that we be on record), as some of the lucky letter holders were very angry and felt she had
issues and needed help. There may be someone out there
with one of her letters as she sent people letters even later than that time-line. I would think many ended up in the garbage where they belonged. Who knew the letters could be used later to show her volatile nature in a serious matter like this? I think her neighbor received a lot of letters over the years and maybe has them or at least one they could share. I will call her and find out as I do not know if she is aware of this blog as she leads a very busy life.
I do believe the police know we are not lying as she called
them constantly complaining about one thing or another. Everything she reported was ridicoulos and the police
know that about her.
If she could she would probably be sending the same kinds of letters to people who believe the girls are not lying right now.
What in the world does the 4-7-12 comment posted at 12:48 mean? "I have known the Gaskills for years."
Were you close friends? Were you in their home? Did you socialize? Were you harassed by her until you gave in and accompanied MG on one of her evening jaunts? Where you there during one of her on store destruction raves? Were you privy to the buying trips to GAP, having a family photo taken, and then the clothes returned to GAP? Did you witness the betrayal of the fostered, then adopted children's medical and bio-home histories told to total strangers. Were you in the home when Missy was in charge of bathing and putting to bed Amber and another child? Were you there when they were locked up in the 3rd floor bedroom? Were you there when they were not allowed at Christmas dinners or at parties when the bio-child the same age as Missy was allowed to be there? Were you there when Amber was called a moron and an idiot? Were you there for the St. Luke's nightmare? Were you around when she would leave all of the foster children under the supervision of a 17YO unrelated girl while she worked at Calvary? Did you hear her absolutely terrible stories about her husband? (true/untrue? given her history as a liar, who knows?)- Were you privy to the salacious stories she told about 'no longer' friends? Were you privy to her absolute terror about being audited by the Federal Government? and these recollections are but a few. We were verbally
labeled 'evil' by M.G. and her children told us they could not speak to us ever again. I'm only sorry I don't have something written, something concrete. However, I do have a firmly embedded personal knowledge of the nightmare on Ashland.
For the life of me I am totally mystified by the props given to them by their new Church's community. Haven't they seen this Blog or the articles and comments at other sites? Wake up like we all eventually did. I truly feel great sorrow for you because she/they do not deserve your support. (as a post note-this has NO connection to R.G.'s current court case; he will be viewed as innocent until proven guilty.)
I think all this information on this blog, even if
given anonoymously will help the girls as I am
sure it can only validate what the girls no doubt
already explained to authorities before this blog
existed. Too many identical examples and experiences
revealed in many of the blogs are similiar and add
up to people telling the truth of what they witnessed
as far as the girls treatment by the Fst parents
in public and in their home. This blog is a way for
a community of people who want to express what they
witnessed and their disgust with DCFS as well.
Yes, people have been brutally honest about their
individual opinions on the fact that these parents
did not parent these girls with a loving relationship
and home; but it can only help the girls because
the abuse that alledgedly took place that the accused
is standing trial for is very likely considering the
way these girls were unfairly treated and abused.
The fact that many have referenced Mrs. Gaskills
irratic an irrational behavior many times also
shows how these girls were totally intimidated
and frightened by both parents. Adults on this
blog admitted their intimidation and trepidation
dealing with Mrs. Gaskills volatile nature and
anger they themselves experienced with her that
led to severing ties with her and her family.
Is it any wonder that the girls suffered in
silence until now since they are no longer children
but young women who finally can speak for themselves
without the fear of Mrs. Gaskill and whatever the
accused said or did to frighten them as well.
So, for all those that think this blog has no meaning,
you are so wrong as too many people on here have
expressed what they know to be true and it very
likely will end up supporting the girls life experiences
in a home they unfortunately had to spend most of
their life unhappy and suffering so horribly and
even worse if these allegations are proved in the
prosecution of this case.
Also, reports to authorities can be given with identity
and not anonymously; and can and will be protected as
investigators and the state attorney office use the
information to prove that the girls are not lying
about other abuses they faced in the home growing up.
To the question of people still having letters from
Mrs. Gaskill that can be quite possible, However, in
most cases the individuals that received her hate mail
tore it up and discarded it as it was trash and the
fact that it came from her proved that it was a good thing
to have severed ties with her even after long standin relationships. I think the RF police dept has been able
to experience first hand her irrational behavior when
reporting the most ridicoulous "offenses" by neighbors,
village employees and even people that thought they were
at least on pleasant terms. I'm sure they are not surprised
to have heard now or in the past this letter writing blitz
she did on and off depending on who she thought was in
some way insulting her by no longer associating with her;
or God forbid it was something that involved one of her
perfect children.It really is too bad that her husband did
not see his wife had a problem and seek help for her; but
then again, it appears that he was frightened of her as well.
I believe the prosecutors can try this case on it's
own merits with the information they already have
as this man would not be facing a serious trial,
and even though he has posted bond, he still is
under the scrutiny of the court and one mistep
he goes back to jail. I don't see his house arrest
as a signal that the court is not taking this case seriously.
I believe like many others he was cut slack for the
people from his church writing letters to the court,
and packing the courtroom. The judge was swayed, but
when it comes to trial she along with the jury will be hearing
the case that prosecution has and I for one believe that
the prosecution has substantial evidence as bail was set
hight to begin with to essentially say this case was so
serious with not one but two class X felonies of two
minors that bail should not be an option. The prosecution
still believed that but was over-ruled due to the judge
falling for the false persona the Gaskills are so good
at selling to people that are their latest buddies
believing the spin the Gaskills have given them about
the girls at the heart of this case.The evidence will come
out soon enough and I think more than likely it does not
bode well for the defendant. Until then he is innocent
until proven guilty.
I wonder if Father Paul and Father Rich and the Chancery are aware of this Blog Site? I believe that hard evidence was saved from M.G.'s amoral 'episode' against St. Luke's Church.
I believe that 3 of the Gaskill bio-children remain duped about their parent's behaviour. After all, when you grow up and live in a household where mentally challenged and/or fostered and/or adopted children are treated differently, you accept it as the 'norm'.
Howver, I do believe that one of their bio-children was NOT duped. It remains to be seen if this person steps forward.
I would personally like to thank this Site for providing so many of us an opportunity to speak the truth; i.e. against DCFS and for Missy and Amber, two very courageous young ladies.
Their foster service should of been named Travesty not tapestry
Does anyone know the agency responsible for monitoring the placement of all these children?
I know when the family started with foster care they were with Hephzibah; but I believe they switched agencies.
Rally and Crabbina~ I have checked this blog
in recent days and there have been no blogs posted
since your own;Apr 12 9:50 PM.
I and some other community members are wondering
if the blog is not going to print anymore blogs
until after court date Apr 26 or when the trial is over.
We are hoping that the honest posts (even though anonymously) have been helpful to investigators; and
that the posts are written by real people who
still can not have their identity revealed as
there are (even now)many of us who do not want
to deal with Mrs. Gaskill as many of us have
experienced her wrath over the years (over minor things)
and still believe she has not and will not changed
as she is in need of professional help as many of
us felt years ago, and untill this day. My personal
opinion is that she has a serious personality disorder
as she can become angry and volatile at the most
trival things and then view people as enemies and
resorts to behavior that has been described by
many on this blog. I think some people have heard
responses from print media and supposedly the news
source is gathering information to see if enough
information that has been revealed to take a deeper
look into the actions or none actions of DCFS in this
case.
As I'm reading through some of these comments, I feel obligated to set a few facts straight.
1. Calvary's former pastor did NOT leave the church because of the Gaskills at all. This was written by someone that obviously didn't know why Ray P. left, and had to come up with that theory. He left because of COMPLETELY different circumstances.
2. The Gaskills did leave Calvary and attend Willow Chicago. They may have started to go to the church in Brookefield after, but it was not right away.
3. The Gaskill children have flaws like everyone does. Even the biological children that were supposedly(I don't know if they were) treated better are good girls, but their flaws have been hung out for the world to see.
4. The youth pastor at the Brookefield church who is married to their daughter is one of the most amazing guys. His family is amazing, and he is a great person to be there for her through this time. Please don't judge him, his wife, or that church.
5. The trial hasn't even started yet. Wait to see evidence before we are so incredibly harsh. I have witnessed some of Mary's wrath, but that doesn't make me condemn them right away.
Is it possible to post instructions on how to view the later posts to this blog? It seems as though there are no more posts when in fact there are several more.
The court date of April 26th is approaching. Hopefully, information regarding attendance by those wishing to support the girls will be forthcoming.
April 17, 2012 – you have to click on NEWEST to view the newest posts. Maybe Rally or Crabbina can add that at the bottom of the article.
I think many can agree that Mary Gaskill has issues; but lets also remember Rob is the one charged with the crime. The trial will only present evidence related to sex abuse allegation.
I agree that is important that others now realize that they were not alone when Mary mistreated them. I hope if there are children still in her care (as news articles reported); and people note inappropriate behavior they report it immediately.
It no longer acceptable to think Mary is just having a bad day.
I do believe that Rob Gaskill was soft spoken. His wife's personality was so large that he was almost invisible. Can anyone add more?
We have added a comment to the post on how to find the comments over the 200 mark. Also, we have added a link to DCFS being on probation since January 11, 2012 from the accrediting body COA, Mary Gaskill's job at Lydia Home AND information from the defunct Tapestry Chicago website including an active link to a support group. Check out Update #7
I attended church with the Gaskills and have many close family and friends still involved in their lives. My experience with the Gaskill family was very similar to many described here. They came into our church, seemed very dynamic, involved, capable and impressive. They are quite charming and magnetic in many ways. Then as time goes on, strange allegations arise, odd behavior is noticed. You just think they must be misunderstood or quirky. When Mary was fired from our church, I struggled to make sense of the situation, and talked with many people closer to it than I was. And in time, I found more people in the same boat as me, trying to make sense of it all, and finally admitting that some things with the family seemed "off." Nothing definitively criminal. Subtle. But for sure not as pure and solid as they like to think of and show themselves. Mary is aggressive, strong, gossipy and pushy (near bullish at times), and yet also emotionally needy, insecure and week/wounded at times. Many people see signs of some kind of personality disorder, like narcissistic, borderline, or something. And Rob also has a very good surface impression, but when you dig a little deeper, there are signs of an irreverent, woe is me, immature and rude attitude.
My first reaction to hearing the news was, this can't be true! But then as I started to piece together what I know as fact: Both Mary and Rob have been caught—by people I deeply trust—in blatant lies. And according to Mary and Rob (known to lie), the girls, the police, the press, their former friends and neighbors are all lying. So if I have to believe one side, I'd tend to believe the victims. And the fact that the girls reported the alleged crimes years after they happened seems to make their story MORE credible to me, not less. They were children when the alleged abuse happened. I myself was abused as a child, and have a deep interest in studying the dynamics of what abuse does to children. The fact that they only reported it when they were older, living out of the house, removed from the dynamic of the family and therefore more in touch with an outside perspective on their situation makes it seem more true to the dynamic of other abuse victims.
Anyway, finding this site has been very enlightening. I can't believe the volume of comments from people with similar ominous feelings about the family. I really thought I was one of the few. One thing has really irked me when reading about this case… The favor the judge seems to extend toward Rob because of the supporters in the courtroom and seeming "upstanding citizen" vibe. You can bet his lawyer will be working hard to pump that perspective up. The idea that a large amount of people would show up and sit on the state side to combat that perspective is great! I really hope to read in the next story that the court was filled with people supporting the girls.
Also, to truly build a LEGAL case against the character of Rob Gaskill, people need to step out of the shadows with cold, hard facts and things that can be considered evidence of his character. Not just vague feelings that something was off. But if you are willing be named, listed as a witness, willing to testify… then stories like Rob calling Amber stupid while sitting on his lap, or Mary telling you vivid details of how damaged the girls are while they are standing there would be really persuasive in a courtroom case. But the judge or lawyers can't do anything with anonymous comments on an internet blog. I encourage people who have actually witnessed shady behavior to step out of the shadows and speak to the authorities. I wish I had more than just vague feelings and second-hand observations to share myself.
RE: April 18, 2012 8:30 AM questions about Rob's personality:
The ONLY time Rob ever talked was when Mary wasn't around. In the presence of Mary, he was silent. He said he never knew what he or they were doing until Mary told him. One time he did say that one of the bio-children had talked to him and Mary jumped all over him saying that they never talk with you-they only talk to her-no way would any of them have any discussion with you (Rob). He never really made a move without her knowing it. She got a job which involved staffing medical facilities with nurses when regular ones called off-the job began at 3 or 4am in the morning until (can't remember). She never did the job-Rob had to and then go to his regular job afterwards. He did call a non-Catholic (before Rob became a Baptist), a heathen, for example, which demonstrated his capacity for being both highly critical and self-righteous.
please explain how to see continued comments
For those still not understanding how to access comments above #200, you need to scroll to just the end of the post and see where it says XXX comments 1-200 of XXX Newer Newest. Click on Newest. You also can scroll to the bottom of the 200 comments and it says 1-200 of xxx Newer Newest and click on Newest. This is also decsribed at the top of the post.
I think during the police investigation of the girls
reporting the alleged sexual abuse, the investigators no doubt probed, and asked the girls to describe their home environment, treatment on a daily basis and what each of
these so called parents were like individualy. I also
believe the girls were questioned if they thought people in the community witnessed the many abuses and unfair practices in the home growing up. These girls knew their parents
social groups (that changed often). The girls could no doubt name these people as well as their children.
If anything, the questions that were no doubt asked about their childhood and the way they were so sadly treated
were likely written in reports. The examples on this blog even though anonymous, have to prove that when the girls were questioned about their life in that horrible house their answers were the exact examples that have been given on this blog which did not even exsist while the investigation was taking place before the so called fathers' arrest. So for those that have said this blog is meaning less, think about what type of questions were asked of these girls in addition to the deviant alleged sexual abuse by an adult who not only diminished them in public ( GOD knows what went on behind closed doors) and the answers and information that had to pour out of them as a giant waterfall.
Also, many people who have supported these girls in various ways have given their names (as I have done). So, for all the most high and pious people of God out there chew on that for awhile. Mary Gaskill is NOT ON TRIAL but she is a major player in this dysfunctional home. People that negate her treatment of these girls as well as her many mental issues need to connect the dots as this cruel and irrational woman created a home environment that influenced the alleged predetor, her own husband, the alleged sex abuser who IS ON TRIAL and whether
she recognizes it or not; if indeed happened she set up
the girls to be easy prey and she will have to live with
that if there is or is not a guilty verdict in this case.
I have a question that many others had at CALVERY
regarding the very emotional sobbing (not tears of joy)
that Misty did almost for the entire wedding ceremony
as a bridesmaid of the eldest daughter of the Gaskills.
Many of us at Calvery thought it was over the top,
and did not know what to make of it.
Some of us speculated that perhaps she could not
deal with the fact that the bride would no longer
be in the home and it just became reality to her
during the ceremony. Still, her sobbing could not
be ignored and her eyes were all red from her sobs.
She did not sob out loud, but nevertheless did
sob very emotionally on and off through out the ceremony.
The bio sisters shed a few joyous tears, but they
clearly were not sobbing. Many of us were and are
still baffled as we felt very bad for Misty having
such a hard time on a happy day for the oldest bio-young
woman getting married.
Looking back, one could only think that the bride
was someone that Misty loved dearly and was very close to.
It does make you wonder if the bride had consoled Misty
on many occasions when Misty was treated badly or unfairly
and maybe even stick up for her. ( hard to imagine her
standing up to her mother as she feared her mother like
everyone else).
Whatever the reason, Misty was clearly distraught and
could not hide it or even try to hide her feelings.
It also was interesting that Amber was not a bridesmaid
yet old enough, and was not included in the bridal
party. Only Misty can say why she sobbed so hard.
However, it did seem that the bride leaving and getting
married clearly saddened Misty and perhaps the bride
(who is a lovely sweet young woman) took Misty under
her wing so to speak and Misty was grieving for her
loss of someone she obviously loved dearly.
FYI: DCFS EXPOSED ON FRONT PAGE OF THE SUNDAY
EDITION OF THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE!
THE ARTICLE TITLED "STATE FAILS TO INSPECT
DAY CARES" IS EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE BY
TWO INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS WHO GIVE
MANY OF THE SECRET DETAILS THAT HAVE
NOT BEEN REVEALED AND COVERED UP BY
THE STATE OF IL. THE ARTICLE TOTALLY
PROVES HOW BROKEN DCFS IS AND DOES NOT
SOUND ENCOURAGING FOR IMPROVING ANYTIME
SOON AS THE STATE GOV PAT QUINN HAS CUT
FUNDING BY 5% AND THE STATE OF IL IS
FAILING OVER 300,000 CHILDREN IN DAY CARE
ALONE THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THE ARTICLE FOCUSES ON THE DAY CARE FAILURES
OF SUPERVISION AND INVESTIGATIONS.
THIS IS A SIGN THAT THE MEDIA IS NOW LOOKING
OVER DCF'S SHOULDER AND WILL NO DOUBT EXPOSE
FAILURES TO PROTECT AND SUPERVISE CHILDREN
IN FOSTER CARE AS WELL. PERHAPS ALL THE LETTERS
RECEIVED BY THE STATE ATTORNEY OFFICE AS WELL
STATE LEGISLATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES BY PEOPLE
ON THIS BLOG HAVE HELPED EXPOSE DCFS FOR
FAILING CHILDREN MISERABLY IN THE STATE OF IL.
NOTE TO DCFS: YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE
THE MEDIA IS FINNALY EXPOSING
THE MANY DEFICIENCIES AND
NEGLECT OF CHILDREN IN THE STATE
OF ILLINOIS. MAYBE YOU (DCFS)
WILL FINALLY LEARN THE MEANING
OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND TAKE
FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR FAILING
CHILDREN AND IN TOO MANY CASES
IN FST. CARE RUINING CHILDREN'S
LIVES AND ALSO FAILING SO MANY
CHILDREN ACROSS THE STATE IN DAY
CARE.
GOVENOR PAT QUINN ARE YOU LISTENING
OR REMAINING STONE DEAF IN SPRINGFIELD
FAILING TO PROTECT INNOCENT VULNERABLE
CHILDREN IN THE STATE OF IL?
I read APR.22 7:55P~ and the sobbing that Misty
could not seem to hold back during the Wedding
Ceremony was very much apparent and concerning.
She was clearly overly emotional, and really
distraught. I thought at the time that her sobs
were not appropriate as you could not help notice
and feel helpless sitting there as obviously
her sobs were not tears of joy that are normal
and understandable as weddings in the family
are emotionally charged, but in a sentimental
way. Since these recent events have emerged,
I believe the sobs were sobs of someone who
was having a hard time dealing with the bride
leaving home and not being there for Misty.
I do believe there must have been a close
relationship between the two young women and
Misty no doubt had many reasons that brought
her emotions to the surface. The person in
the blog that said maybe in Misty's life
the bride took her under her wing and Misty
realized she would no longer have someone
that was there for and maybe at times a
source of comfort. Whatever the reason,
it was clear that Misty was overcome with
her emotions and was probably happy for the
bride but very unhappy for herself.
If anything it was clear that Misty was having
a difficult time; and in retrospect her sobs
can be interperted as Misty sobbing for the
loss of having someone she clearly loved,
no longer being there for her in the same way.
This is conjecture of course, but the sobbing
on and off throughout the ceremony that Misty
could not keep in check was odd as she clearly
was distraught.
The explosive article on how DCFS fails children
big time in day care centers across the state
has been long over due. It is great it was on the
front page of Sunday's Chicago Tribune and went
on for two more pages with mind boggling details
of how day cares throughout the state are not
supervised, investigated, and even visited on regular
unannounced visits. Many people that worked for someof
these day care
centers stated that when visits occured they were
scheduled by DCFS therfore giving the day care center time
to make sure everything looked perfect on the visitation
day, which was totally different from went on in the
center in its' daily operation.
The article did not mention that the COA has put DCFS
on probation since January of this year.
Hopefully, with all the letters written to the news
media sources in the Chicago area, the probation of
DCFS will be revealed to the public and let the dirty
laundry be hung out to dry.
Neddless to say, the Sunday article reflects what
many people have communicated on this Reform Blog.
The gross negligence and total lack of accountability
by this agency that should protect children, is
sadly allowed to happen all over the state of IL,
proving that many people employed in child care in
day care centers are not even checked out thouroghly
including criminal backround checks!
It stands to reason that the Fst. Care system run
by our state is no doubt been grossly negligent
for years with the same problems and probably
worse and EXPLAINS why people on this blog are
so critical of DCFS failing to protect the girls
that DCFS even allowed to be adopted, as well as
supervising this home no doubt without unannounced
visits, the Gaskills were probably prepared for
visits and made sure everthing looked "perfect"
and probably let the children know that they were
to be on their best behavior and to answer questions
in a positive way as if they did not they probably
would have been relegated to being locked on the third
floor and lose the few privildges they had in that
so called home. hopefully, the next article will reveal DCFS's probation and how children are not protected in
homes as they are no doubt hardly investigated; and that
visits are planned ahead of time and not unannounced on
an ongoing basis. If this happened correctly in the Gasklil
home, we would not even be having this discussion today.
DCFS SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND I HOPE RECORDS REFLECT
HOW LITTLE THIS FAMILY WAS SUPERVISED AS DCFS THOUGHT
THIS FAMILY WALKED ON WATER.This case should be used
as someone else stated as a template for trainind case-
workers to learn that no FST.family is ABOVE diligent
INVESTIGATION AND SUPERVISION.
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RALLY In your experience with cases like this when the
case goes to trial starting this Friday, April,26th
how long does a trial of this nature take to conclude
from start to finish. Doesn't an accused person
under the law, have the right to an expediant
trial and not have a trial be purposely delayed
by either the prosecution or the defendants' side?
How fast the trial may go will depend on how crowded the judge's calendar is, the priority that the prosecutor puts on the case and whether or not that Gaskill defense is asking for things that may delay the case. My guess is that this may drag on for awhile, could be 1 year or more. Some statistics on rape and sex abuse cases can be found at http://www.mincava.umn.edu/documents/sexoff/sexoff.html#id574073
A few interesting ones: "For nearly 90% of the youngest victims of rape, those younger than 12, the offender was someone known to them. Law enforcement agencies reported that family members victimized 43% of these young victims–about 4 times the proportion found among victims age 30 or older (11%). "
"About 5 out of 10 rape defendants are released prior to trial, and 8 out of 10 convicted rape defendants had entered a guilty plea to the offense"
"Data drawn from police-recorded incidents of rape in three States revealed that 44% of rape victims were under the age of 18. The self-reports of convicted rape and sexual assault offenders serving time in State prisons indicate that two-thirds of such offenders had victims under the age of 18, and 58% of those–or nearly 4 in 10 imprisoned violent sex offenders–said their victims were age 12 or younger."
I don't think the trial will start on the 26th. This article says the judge set the date for a "status hearing":
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/03-16-2012/Gaskill_pleads_not_guilty_in_River_Forest_child_abuse_case
I have read numerous bloggers commenting on Mrs. Gaskill
being employed in several jobs while having the enormous
responsibility of having so many children placed in
her care.( all with SP Needs with serious health problems)
Her husband was reported to be also employed at Lydia,
where she was employed as well until the recent arrest
of Mr. Gaskill. One blogger pointed out, (the person
was obviously good friends with Mrs. Gaskill), that
Mrs. Gaskill totally feared the IRS taking a close look
at their IRS tax information.
Also, the same blogger pointed out that while Mrs.
Gaskill worked at Calvery, she had a 17 year old girl
(non-relative) watching these children in her home.
Two questions. #1- Why would DCFS allow a 17 yr old
take care of children that the state placed in MRS.
GASKILL's CARE especially as the girl was under 18
and clearly was not the person RESPONSIBLE for the
WELFARE of these NEEDY CHILDREN?
It stands to reason , if something serious would
have happened under the juvenile's care, Mrs. Gaskill
would have a lot of EXPLAINING to DCFS on how it was
that she who was LICENSED and DESIGNATED as the
children's primary CARE-GIVER as a FOSTER MOM who
was even being paid by the state; that she would
take a huge risk by NOT BEING PRESENT IN THE HOME,
and placing children with SERIOUS needs in the hands of
a 17yr, old child? ( I'm sure DCFS did not know)
#2- Why was the income (which was sizeable and tax-free) not enough for this greedy couple to live on? Mr. Gaskill
was no doubt collecting social security and working
besides Mrs. Gaskill, and the two of them ran a fs/adpt
business called TAPESTRY out of the home that apparently
charged a fee to acess, and who knows what other revenue
they gained from this UNLICENSED SITE as they were working other jobs as well as receiving a larger income
from the state of IL.The couple garnerd a large income from
DCFS as they were deemed tragically and MISTAKENLY QUALIFIED FOR
to live on by being highly paid to be
RESPONSIBLE and CONSCIENTIOUS FST. PARENTS of NEEDY and
VULNERABLE CHIDREN.
The people that have in her defense said she was such
a great mother, and took care and LOVED ALL CHILDREN in
her care need a big time REALITY CHECK.
This couple operated fst. care as a BUSINESS, and the money
garnered by them was STILL NOT ENOUGH as MRS GASKILL
worked various jobs when her PRIMARY JOB was to CARE FOR
THE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN IN HER HOME.( THAT SHE AND HER
HUSBAND SOUGHT OUT TO CARE FOR BY TAKING THESE CHILDREN
IN THEIR HOME AS RESPONSIBLE FOSTER PARENTS)
The LOVE of MONEY has and always has been the DRIVING FORCE
in becoming FOSTER PARENTS and for those people that go
on and on and on how MRS GASKILL SIMPLY LOVES CHILDREN;
wake up and look at her track record. MRS. GASKILL had
jobs outside the home and put children at risk in the
hands of a 17yr. old girl. I hope the 17yr. old girl
gives information on what the life of this family was
like. However, I have a strong feeling(not saying I'm right)
but that 17 yr old girl could be SARAH MICHELLE who leaves
posts on this blog accusing everyone as being JUDGEMENTAL
and her blogs sound like they could be written by a very
NAIEVE 17 year old. In any case, I think investigators should
get the 17yr old girls name and question her. Also,DCFS
should go on RECORD in COURT that they would not have
ALLOWED Mrs. GASKILL to place the children in a juveniles'
care unless of course the Gaskills were privildged FST. PRTS.
and THE STATE CHOSE TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY which would
be another CORRUPT practice of children in FST.CARE.
APRIL 24,11:28 AM
I have thought the same thing about all the time Mrs. Gaskill worked
outside the home with so many fst. children in her care.
I do not understand how she pulled that off with DCFS as several
of these children were not even school age and had significant
health problems (she let us all know) , and there was a baby they
with a terminal disease (she lived to be three) on top of it.
When she worked at Calvery she acted like she did not have a
care in the world. Also, she seemed happy as hell not to be home with
the children who she should have been home with.
Many church members thought how she was able to get the permission
to work outside the home as the children in her care placed by the state
in her home were her first priority and that is why she was paid well
with IL tax dollars every month. The child that was terminal and died
at three, she led many to believe the child was adopted by her and her
husband. When the little girl passed away it became apparent that
she was lying as the obit gave her birth name and bio-parents and
the Gaskills as FST. PARENTS. While she had that little toddler in her
care and was out and about she always let you or anyone else around
know the girl was terminal without any show of emotion on her part.
When the child needed extra room in her downstairs area, she complained
about it as if this poor little girl was totally disrupting her "private life"
with her own bio-family. How cold and heartless she was, yet when the girl
passed she put on quite an emotional act even expecting people that
never knew the girl attend the wake. After the girl passed, she was soon
seen at her favorite dive yucking it up and drinking alot.
Mr. Gaskill also drank at the same place with her and buddies and
put away quite a few himself. The investigators probably heard all of this
already, and all they have to do is talk to the owners and people that
worked there at night. So much for the "SAINTLY LOVING PROTECTIVE
FOSTER PARENTS"
The girl is no longer 17, she is in her mid twenties and when she began working for the gaskill's I believe she had to go through some training. Also she was, not sure if she still is, the girlfriend of rob and Mary's oldest son.
APRIL 24 12:50PM
Even if this girl was in her mid twenties
the question still remains: Why would DCFS
even bother to train (how did DCFS find the time)
her as Mrs. Gaskill was the primary care giver
of not one (which could be feasible for DCFS
to allow) but SEVERAL NEEDY CHILDREN that
she was RESPONSIBLE for and was paid by the
state as the PRIMARY CARE GIVER: A FOSTER MOM!
The fact that she may or may not have been the
son of Mrs. Gaskill's still does not make it
right as the RESPONSIBILITY of Mrs.Gaskill
when she signed on to be such a loving , wonderful
FSt. MOM it is and WAS her RESPONSIBILITY to
mother these children and care for them as her own.
If the girl was the girlfriend (probably was)
Mrs. Gaskill no doubt chose her instead of
a total outsider as she guarded her private life as a
FSt.mom as well as the children in her care as a mother bear and her baby cubs. It will be unlikely to get the girlfriend to speak about the questionable and irresponsible behavior of the family dynamics in a court of law.
I believe foster parents that are parenting
children that are not SP. needs and in school
all day, a Fst Parent could and many do just
like in bio-families be able to work outside
the home as long as the parent either came home
by the time the child or children did, or made
sure the child or children were in a SUPERVISED
after school program until the parent could pick them
up. However, with NEEDY children and one even
so ill that she was terminal, why would DCFS
in their right mind let anyone other than the
licensed Fst Parent take care and be in charge in any
way shape or form? This sounds illogical to me.
If DCFS signed off on it (another example of failing
children in foster care), it is further PROOF that
like the Sun. Trib article on how thousands of
children are FAILED by DCFS in DAY-CARE in the
state of IL, that DCFS no doubt does a worst job
in keeping track of what the — is going on in
fst. homes like this one.
Oh yes, why did MG have to work outside the home
anyway? DCFS paid this family very well.
My guess is she just wanted to get out of facing
the responsibilities of caring for these NEEDY
children; and the extra money was a bonus as she
was known to spend money like water on her many
shopping splurges.
MS is NOT ON TRIAL like her husband. How ever she
no doubt pulled the wool over DCFS on many things
including when she did come home from work these
NEEDY children were either in bed or would go to
bed as early as possible as that is exactly like
she did to the two young women that have pressed
charges(when they were younger).MS. is everything
that is wrong in the FST care system as for her
husband he is INNOCENT until proven in a court of
law GUILTY.
APRIL,24 11:28
You are so right about how cavlier
both MRS. G and MR. G were when
they told people ( with the child
in their arms or a stroller) that
the poor little girl had a terminal
disease. I still get choked up talking
about my mom passing two years ago.
Most if not everyone would gasp when
hearing that inf and could not understand
that with all the other children in the home this couple would even want to have to take on a very serious illness with a child that was terminal that would require exhausting hours ofv quality care.
Of course the couples' buddies out there are going to say MRS. G. just had such a big heart and so much love to share that she just could not say "no".
The couple even went totally public and had their picture in a community paper when at some point while the child was alive they sponsered "Laps For Lucy" a run to raise money for the terrible disease that this little girl was suffering from. The turn out was basically their own family and some of their loyal admirers and church people. Again, another example how thisin couple relished being in the spotlight and adored by unsuspecting people in the community. One of their fst or adpt children had written an essay in school and that is how and why they did the event (besides being high profile). The childs' idea was I'm sure sincere as I cant't imagine a child having to see another child so terribly ill and not be affected and that child was sensitive enough to come up with an idea that would help him cope with her illness and loss. However, MRS. G. loved the attention as she always enjoyed being noticed in the community.
The name of the reataurant that the two of them frequented and drank margueritas was a local place called LOLOS. Many of their friends hung out there with them. I and many people wondered how they found the energy and time as many of us are parents of young children (without sp needs) and are exhausted keeping up with them and their activities that going out without them hardly ever hsappens accept on special occasions. I really thought that they had a lot of care-givers employed around the clock and I found out reading this blog that they did not. I'm totally shocked that they did not have hired help as how else could they be out and about at night?
I never inquired either parent (felt it was not
my businees) if they had a lot of hired help
like at lest three shifts as this couple for
all the responspilities they had, seemed to
manage having a busy social life ( night life
in their fav rest) frequently and managed to
frequent often. It was not until reading this blog
that I found out that was not the case.
I still do not know how they did it; and where
they got the energy with so many children to take care
of.
I have read this blog on and off for the last two months.
I just updated myself and I really believe that people
(I do not know who they are), as I do not even know this
family. I must admit it has been intersting reading the
background and history of this couple; people seem to
be brutally honest and probably could combined together write
a book on the couple; especially the wife.
I really think people should start focusing on DCFS and
the failures that no doubt occured by an agency that can
not even protect children in day-care ( which in my opinion
should be easier) and focus on how DCFS also fails the
many thousands of innocent children that they place in
the foster care system. This blog and the directors are
commited to exposing and revealing how children become
victims because of actions as well as non-actions in
the protection of children. It is my hope and it should
be everyones' hope That DCFS in the state of IL be exposed
and held accountable (no matter what their lame excuses are)
for their lack of competence in overseeing and supervising
the children they place and entrust to(fst/adpt parents)
as these children have NO ONE ELSE LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR
WELLBEING EXCEPT DCFS. Too many children fall through the
many holes in this system; and their lives are ruined.
Many children in fst care suffer abuses of all kinds
including sexual abuse and because of an entire system that
is broken and corrupt no doubt,are abandoned to suffer
most times silently and are not able to help themselves.
To say DCFS needs to do better is an understatement.
This case is a criminal case that will be prosecuted in
court. The father is the alledged criminal here; not the wife,
even though many have pointed out behavior not in order
for a foster mom by any stretch of the imagination.
The biological children are not responsible and should
be left out of this altogether.(they are no doubt suffering
their own private hell as this is their father on trial).
This case will be judged by whatever evidence the state
has on the defendant AND NOTHING MORE. I am sure that
there has to be more to this case than one can imagine
as the accused would not be facing a criminal trial.
People need to let the court system present evidence
to the jury and the fate of the accused will be UP TO
THEM. Mr. Gaskill's GUILT OR INNOCENCE IS NOT GOING TO
BE DECIDED by what his WIFE DID OR DID NOT DO.
Mr. Gaskill is the DEFENDANT not his wife, so enough
already of hanging her out to dry, and let the legal
system do its' job. Also, DCFS I'm sure will have a lot
to explain in this case, maybe even in court.
The focus on this blog needs to shift to a intelligent
discussion about child welfare and all the pitfalls
and failures of how thosands of children in every
state do not always wind up in a home that they truly
deserve and for ALL THE RIGHT REASONS.
The girl watching the children in the Gaskill household was 17YO at the time she was in charge of the adopted and foster children. She was John's GF. The Restaurant is Lalo's on Oak Park Avenue. I cannot believe that the Gaskills continue to be able to garner support for any of their 'issues'. Unlike many of the 'supporters', I will not name call but am in awe of the ease with which you continue to be duped and manipulated by M.G.
I agree with everything about IL DCFS continually failing children
in are state. The many children that have suffered in abuses of
every nature including death in some cases is disgusting and
deplorable and can no longer continually be swept under the rug
in IL. DCFS and IL state government on every level needs to start
putting in to place new laws, guidelines and strict criteria that
DCFS workers must follow and FOSTER PARENTS need EVALUATIONS
that DETERMINE: 1. Are they qualified to even be considered and licensed
( this should be determined after a stricter standard
of investigation and case worker study is completed
that also studies the motivation of a couple desire
to become FOSTER PARENTS to begin with.)
2. Once they are approved as Foster PARENTS there
should be a required group meeting or seminar
of newly licensed FOSTER PARENTS to attend
with professionals such as Psychologists, Directors
that have proven to be experts in the field of the
many issues that a foster family may encounter
with integrating a new family member or members
into their home and with their extended families
and friends. If the FOSTER PARENTS have bio-children
in the home, the professionals need to address
the issues that may surface initially and issues
that may arise at different times and give examples
of the best way to handle them.
It should also be stressed THAT THERE WILL BE UNANNOUNCED
VISITS as well as talking in private with a foster child that
is old enough , and even bio-children in the home, especially
if they are the same age or close in age to a fst.child.
The FOSTER PARENTS also need to know THAT the PRIVACY
of a foster child's life SHOULD NEVER BE SHARED OR SPOKEN
ABOUT INCLUDING BIO-CHILDREN THAT ARE IN THE HOME.
BREECH OF A CHILD"S PRIVACY SHOWS LACK OF RESPECT
FOR THE CHILD AND CAN DESTROY A CHILD'S SELF-ESTEEM
( I f ever brought up to them by other children in school
situations as other children may hear adults (parents)
that were told and have information learned from
the foster parent themselves)
Perhaps if the Gaskill family were held to higher standards
(no matter the snow job they are capable of doing so well)
THE children could have (should have) been removed from
the home and their FST, Care LICENSE REVOKED.
Yes we must remember to stick to the facts. 1.) Robert Gaskill is being charged with a crime not Mary. Any information regarding Robert I'm sure will be greatly appreciated. 2.) Robert has admitted guilt. It does not matter how he did it. He did it. He was not beaten or denied basic human needs as he was not at the police dept. long enough for that too happen. 3.)DCFS should not be allowed to place any children in the care of any Gaskill family member. 4.)We all need to remember the judges name at election time. She has showed favoritism in this case before knowing the facts. 5.)We do not have to fear Mary's wrath right now. She has been told by her lawyer to be on her best behavior. She cannot afford to use her old tricks against people. Now is the time to let your name be known. This is important for the sake of the girls. 6.) Let us not judge the real family as we don't know anything about them except for what Mary has said and we now know that it may not be the truth. 7.) Actions speak louder then words. Do what you say you are going to do. I for one will be there on Thursday to support the girls and they will know who I am.
Mrs. F. N.
I also am going to be there tomorrow in support of the girls. I believe he admitted guilt and I believe this whole case is so very terrible for everyone…but now it needs to be about the girls, they need support.
May God Bless F.N. and anyone else that attends the hearing to support Amber and Missy.
I agree with everyrhing the above blogger Mrs. F.N., Mr. Gaskill (presumed innocent), however, everything including a confession which now is being denied; and blamed on a
corrupt police department in RF that according to
the Gaskill family and supporters lied to the state
attorney office to set him up to be charged with two
serious class x felonies against two minors because they
also made up all the evidence they also gathered in the
month prior to his arrest. RF police can stand proudly on
their own merits. Rf police dept. and investigators are
professional and have never had any criminal through
corrupt practices make a false confession; as well as
making up facts revealed through a investigation to
falsely arrest someone because we are a small town and
we need a little excitement as we do not have any other
crimes (serious in nature) ever happen in our small town.
I am glad some or alot of people who she will recognize
attend court on behalf of the girls and show the judge
that people in the community know and believe the girls
are not lying and stand behind them as many know the
entire sad life these girls led in a home that they
should have been taken out of a long, long, time ago.
I have chosen to be pro-active by giving info with my
identity revealed to the state attorney office, the judge,
and the current director of DCFS. I am a nurse and work
the night shift, so my contribution will be continually
helping the girls in other ways as I have already have.
There are alot of people who are supporting the girls
that the family will not recognize and have said they
are going to court to support the girls. If you are one
of those people reading the blog and can attend court
please do, as alot of us hope the girls are represented
and supported as they really are on their own as they have
been their whole life and deserve to know that people
do care and value their life and want justice served on their
behalf. The statement about not judging the real family
is true but please for people who do not view "ADOPTIVE
FAMILIES AS REAL FAMILIES" try to undrestand that the
Gaskills legally adopted these girls (NOT FOR LOVE BUT
FOR CONTINUED CHECKS IN THE MAIL FROM THE STATE EVEN
AFTER ADOPTION) really were their real family only
they are not what "REAL ADOPTIVE FAMILIES ARE TRULY LIKE"
My family is an adoptive family(and we went through a
long but necessary process) and brought our dear children
home as infants; and I can tell you we are a REAL FAMILY.
My children are the sun the moon and the stars to us
as well as every member of both sides of our extended
families. DCFS should have made sure these girls from
the start be placed into one of the thousands of childless
couples who even apply to be fst. parents in the hopes
that perhaps a placement will eventually lead to an
adoption and give them the "FOREVER FAMILY" they have
dreamed about. ADOPTIVE FAMILIES ARE REAL AND NO
DIFFERENT THAN A BIOLOGICAL FAMILY. ONE IS NOT BETTER
THAN THE OTHER-JUST TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES.
THE TWO GIRLS SHOULD OF HAD THE RIGHT TO BE IN A LOVING
REAL FAMILY THROUGH ADOPTION AND BE THE SUN, MOON,
AND STARS, GROWING UP HAPPY AND ENJOYING LIFE WITH
THEIR REAL FOREVER FAMILY. EVERTHING THEY HAVE ENDURED
WAS A TOTAL NIGHTMARE PERPETUATED BY DCFS. THE GASKILLS
HAVE NO CAPACITY TO LOVE ANY CHILD BUT THEIR OWN BIO-
CHILDREN. HOWEVER, SINCE MONEY (THE TRUE OBJECT OF THEIR
AFFECTION), WAS THEIR TRUE AND OBVIOUS MOTIVATION;
THEY MERELY BORDERED THESE GIRLS. IT WAS APPARENT TO
THE GIRLS AND EVERYONE ELSE ACCEPT DCFS. THE GIRLS
DESERVE TO HAVE JUSTICE PREVAIL AS JUSTICE WAS NEVER
A PART OF THEIR YOUNG LIVES THE MOMENT THEY WERE PLACED
INTO THAT GREEDY MONEY DRIVEN HOME.
Todday's status hearing on Robert Gaskill
events: Prosecution laid out charges of alledged
abuse of two minors after drinking episodes
( specific abuses of the girl,s were given)
Defense attorney asked and was suceesful
on JUDGE LOVE granting two requests.
1. Gaskill will have a longer electonic leash
as it can go off when he greets visitors or
does laundry in the laundry area.
2. Gaskill will be allowed to attend his
youngest bio-daughter's upcoming graduation
from college. (side note: This is the bio-
daughter the same age as Missy, who the
though adopted was not afforded the priviledge of attending a college and even live on a college campus )
3. Gaskills had their usual supporters but THIS TIME COURTROOM HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF SUPPORTERS THERE ON BEHALF OF SUPPORTING THE GIRLS.
4. Next court date will be in June.
Once again Judge Love gives Gaskill a break to attend
the upcoming Graduation of the youngest bio-daughter
(same age as MISSY). Also, this daughter was the daughter
that always was able to participate in many activties,
parties, social family outings while Missy was relegated
to stay home with her sister even when older.
I think because Missy was denied so many of the things
listed above, Gaskill should have had the tables'
turned and see what it is like to miss a event you
want to be a part of. I for one will be writing and
pointing out all the times Missy and Amber were not
allowed to be at many activities before and AFTER THEIR
SO CALLED BOGUS ADOPTION. Who signed an order for them
in those instances? Who signed the PERMISSION slip for
Missy to be able to be on a TRAVELING SPORTS TEAM that
she was NOT ALLOWED because the bio-girl the same age
did not MAKE THE TEAM. Mary would NEVER LET MISSY EVER
DO OR BE INVOLVED IN ANYTHING THAT HER PRECIOUS BIO-
DAUGHTER could not be in or GOD FORBID MISSY OUTSHINED
THIS BIO-DAUGHTER. ALSO, MISSY WAS EVEN BRIGHTER THAN THE BIO-
DAUGHTER IN SCHOOL (MARY HELD MISSY BACK A YEAR-NICE TRY).
THESE GIRLS MAY HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BUT THE GASKILLS NEVER
IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD PAY FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.
THE GIRLS PAID WITH THEIR LIVES (money received from
the state before and AFTER ADOPTION to these so called
loving parents) FOR EVERTHING THE BIO-CHILDREN RECEIVED
INCLUDING HIGHER EDUCATION. SADLY, THEY LITERALLY PAID
WITH THEIR LIVES BY BEING EXPLOITED, MISTREATED, ABUSED
( as well as a sexual abuse (ALLEDGELY TO SATISFY THE
GOD SQUAD) their ENTIRE LIFE and WERE DENIED A NORMAL
HAPPY CHILDHOOD IN THE PHONY LOVING HOUSE OF HORRORS..
THE GASKILLS.
Just Curious… If all you bloggers seem to have been witness to these actions and seem to have inside knowledge… Doesnt that make you acomplices? Why did you hide the facts and evidence you seem to have? The girls both have serious mental defects from their birth family who abused and abandoned them. The Gaskill family put them on a great path and gave them a great life they never would have had from their birth family… Both girls were tossed out of college for inapropriate behavior and then they decided to go back to their bad blood family and suddenly these allegations came out! Hmmmmmmm… I heard the DCFS as well as many counselors and tudors were at the house at least 5 times a month every year… yet upon interviews and counseling the dcfs and childrens group counselors said the girls were in excellent physical condition… and their severe mental problems from birth were under control. It makes you wonder, but like all these other posts…ANONYMOUS, Lol… It really doesnt matter what any of us say does it… AS Far as wondering why reporters may not call you back…LOL… I couldn't find A. Noymous listed in the phone book!
http://oakpark.patch.com/articles/judge-gaskill-can-attend-graduation
Judge in Gaskill case needs letters explaining
how the two girls were denied their whole
life many activities that the so called
Adoptive Family EXCLUDED and DENIED the
two girls to attend from the time they were
little (did not know any better) to teen
years and up in MISSY'S CASE.
Apparently, this judge did not see that by
allowing someone with 2 counts of a class x
felony comitted on two minors for HALF their
life ( INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY),
and that the state has strong EVIDENCE as he
still is in custody (prosecution wanted him to
stay in jail)that the priviledge of going to
church and the doctor is about as much leway
he should get. REASONS BEING: 1. the charges he
has been arrested and indited by a grand jury.
2. He should get
a taste of his own medicine, as not only is
he an alledged sexual predator of two minors; who he
and his wife CHOSE TO ADOPT ONLY when there was a threat of the
the girls be taken back by the first agency to seek
adoption placement of the girls.(ages 6 or 7 for MIssy,
4 or 5 for Amber).Somehow they were able to switch agencies
to a catholic agency in Niles and eventually adopted the
two girls ( so money would continue to flow). So, really
at some point in both the girls lives he was alledgely
abusing two legally adopted daughters (he could care less for).
The medicine that this judge (if she knew the life these girls
were forced tom live) should have served up to show Mr.
Gaskill what it is like when you are DENIED TO ATTEND
something you would ver much like to PARTICIPATE IN.
This judge needs letters signed by people just like the
previous letters describing what many know and witnessed
the girls being denied being a real part of the family
even though this greedy couple adopted them. Adoptive
families everywhere are so digusted and sickened that
adoption was even allowed to a couple that should never
had the priviledge of doing as these children NEVER
would be LOVED and GIVEN THEIR HEART AND SOUL as
adoptive parents like any other parent (THERE IS NO
DISTINCTION FOR THOSE THAT THINK ADOPTIVE FAMILIES
ARE NOT REAL DUE TO THE PROCESS FAMILIES GO THROUGH
TO BECOME PARENTS (AND THE CHILDREN ARE NOT A RESULT
OF THE BIRTH PROCESS).
THIS CASE IS EVERTHING THAT
IS WRONG WITH DCFS and a
EXAMPLE OF A COUPLE THAT
WERE REALLY CONTENT WITH
BEING BIOLOGICAL PARENTS
UNTIL THEIR THRIST FOR
MONEY WAS QUENCHED BY
MAKING FST/ADP CARE AN
INCOME THEY COULD NOT
LIVE WITHOUT!
RE: APRIL 26, 2012 3:21PM
You are SO wrong in what you have written. Your statements are FALSE. You have been spoon-fed your comments likely by MG
(or one of her minions) who, I thought, was told by her lawyer to be on HER BEST BEHAVIOR.
I CHALLENGE YOU-STAND UP AND GIVE OUT YOUR NAME AND I WILL GIVE MINE——–
April26 3:21PM
FYI bloggers who witnessed and heard the many examples of unfair and unjust treatment of the girls, have all admitted
( thinking of it again after these serious allegations)
That they should have reported what bothered them; but
many gave DCFS too much credit at that time, aand thought
they surely would pick up the quirks and odd behavior
just dealing with the couple; and that the girls would
give information themselves. (I do not believe they were
ever spoken to without Mary there) and if Mary was there
they could not speak as hell knows no fury like when
Mary Gaskill is exposed for the witch that she is and
always will be.The girls were not physically abused
as babies. Unfortunately, the abuse happened in the womb
as the mother was an alcholic. The father was a drug abuser
who Mary let everone know including Missy that he died
of a drug overdose. The mother sought temporary help
with the agency in Oak Park, Hebzabeh SP?.
Mary was supposed to have them short term, but the mother
continued having difficulties and allowed the girls to
be in a foster home with the hope of reuniting with them
when she was able. Unfortunately, that did not happen and
the girls were allowed by their mother to be adopted
as her life obviously continued on a downward spiral.
Too bad they were not adopted into a truly loving home.
If you call beinrg verbally, mentally, emotionally abused
and sexually ( he did confess); being given a great life
and a great path, I would hate to see what a BAD PATH
would be under their care. If the girls went to a college
it could not have been a college with substantial tuition
as the girl that is graduating from college went on face-book
her first or second year begging for donations toward her
tuition as she said her parents were in financial difficulty.
I personally do not go on face-book, but my daughter an
ex-friend does, hence the information. It is likely
they went to a local junior college and perhaps their
inappropriate behavior was their way of acting out from
the horrible childhood they endured and being older
finally realized they needed to confront their abuser
as their abuse was the source of their real problems
they could no longer deal with and act like nothing
of that nature happened to them.
If DCFS went to the home 5 times a month in recent years and
rendered them physically and mentally stable (as you say
they were not), then DCFS continued the mistakes and failure
that DCFS made their whole life. You just provedthat DCFS
according to you is a joke by finding what the Gaskills
spin on the girls (MENTALLY DARANGED) not to be true and
did nothing to help them. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM…perhaps
that explains how and why DCFS never saw the phonies
the Gaskills were and allowed them to be licensed
and how they thought the girls were fine growing up.
Only back then the Gaskills did not find fault with them
as DCFS fell hook line and sinker for the ruse they were
so good at that clearly benefited them and not the girls.
GEE funny how now they can't understand how DCFS said the
girls were ok and offered no help with their problems.
As for running away, that is the BEST THING THEY EVER DID
FOR THEMSELVES. The allegations came out because FINALLY
THE GIRLS WERE FREE OF THE GASKILLS AND NO LONGER FRIGHTENED
BY THEM. IT ONLY PROVES THESE GIRLS ARE BRIGHT AND BRAVE
AND NOT MENTALLY INCOMPETENT AS THE EVIDENCE THEY PROVIDED
RESULTED IN THEIR ABUSER TO BE ARRESTED AND INDITED ON
SERIOUS CHARGES. JUST BECAUSE HE IS OUT ON HOUSE ARREST
DOES NOT LESSON HIS CHARGES. HE WOULD NOT BE ELECTRONICALLY
IMPRISONED IF HIS CHARGES WERE NOT VIEWED SERIOUS ENOUGH
THAT HE NEEDS TO STAND TRIAL FOR.
(
Apr 26 3:21 PM
News reporters have responded………LOL
Tribune last Sunday exposed DCFS failing children in
Day-Care throughout the state of IL and how
little and in many cases do not monitor
and investigate gave numerous reasons
why DCFS needs MAJOR REFORM BECAUSE IT TOTALLY
IS AND HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR YEARS.
I sincerely doubt if DCFS is not going to be EXPOSED
FOR THE ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE care of
children that DCFS places in homes and FAILS
THESE CHILDREN MISERABLY.
People on this blog have and do reveal their identity to
sources they contact and will continue to do so.
DCFS is the one that does not return calls……what a surprise!
LOL other media sources have and do respond…….
It is just a matter of time for DCFS FOSTER CARE PROBLEMS
ARE EXPOSED and this case has alot of EXAMPLES HOW
CHILDREN SUFFER AND THAT DCFS IS CLUELESS AND
BECAUSE OF THERE MANY FAILURES CASES LIKE THIS
HAPPEN TOO OFTEN AND TOO MANY HOMES.
BE patient…….and stay tuned.
April 26 3:41 PM
YOU REFERRED TO THE GIRLS AS GOING BACK
TO THEIR BAD BLOOD FAMILY. WHAT A HYPOCRITE.
YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO SAY
THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE POSTING EXPERIENCES
WITH THIS GOOD BLOOD FAMILY ARE SO "JUDGEMENTAL"
AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.
YOU JUST PROVED HOW JUDGEMENTAL YOU ARE
AND YOU NO DOUBT HAD THAT STORY SPUN TO YOU
BY THE SPIN WEAVERS THEMSELVES.
THE GIRLS ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS WORLD OR EVEN
THIS NORMAN ROCKWELL TOWN OF RIVER FOREST
FOR THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN WERE BORN
TO A MOM THAT UNFORTUNATELY DRANK DURING
HER PREGNANCIES.
THERE ARE CHILDREN IN ARE OWN COMMUNITY THAT
HAVE SUFFERED THE SAME FATE BEFORE THEY WERE
BORN (NOT THEIR FAULT EITHER).
I SUPPOSE THEY COME FROM BAD BLOOD FAMILIES
TOO…OH WAIT A MINUTE THEY LIVE IN SUCH
A IDYLIC NEIGHBORHOOD THEY DO NOT COME FROM
BAD BLOOD FAMILIES.
TALK ABOUT BAD BLOOD FAMILIES, MARY GASKILL
HAS A FAMILY SHE CAME FROM. SHE HAS ON MANY
MANY OCCASIONS AND CIRCUMSTANCES BY HER
WORDS (HATE MAIL ONE OF HER FAVORITES)
AND ACTIONS (SPREADING FALSE LIES AROUND FOR
PEOPLE THAT CROSSED HER THE WRONG WAY, OR PLAIN
DIDN'T LIKE) MADE LIFE MISERABLE FOR NEIGHBORS
ON HER BLOCK, CALLS THE POLICE FOR THE MOST
TRIVIAL MATTERS WASTING THEIR TIME TO EVEN TAKE A REPORT OR LISTEN, RUIN AN INNOCENT PRIESTS' LIFE BY
FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF A SEXUAL NATURE, LOST A JOB AT HER FORMER CHURCH FOR QUESTIONABLE AND DUBIOUS BEHAVIOR, DRINKS LIKE A FISH AT HER FAVORITE WATERING HOLE, AND
THE LIST CAN GO ON AND ON WHEN YOU THROW IN EVERYTHING
SHE DID OR DID NOT DO RIGHT BY THE GIRLS,AS WELL AS
HER LEWD BEHAVIOR WHEN SHE IS SMASHED AT HER AND HER
HUSBANDS FAVORITE MARGARITAVILLE….ON AND ON.
SHOULD WE ALL GO AROUND AND SAY SHE CAME FROM A BAD BLOOD FAMILY TOO? I WIIL LET YOU DECIDE.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE IT A CONTEST OF WHICH
FAMILY OF THE GIRLS HAVE BAD BLOOD, I VOTE FOR THE
GASKILLS. THEY ARE NOTHING THAT THEY HAVE WANTED
EVERYONE TO BELIEVE ABOUT THEM. IN SHORT, THEY ARE
NO WHERE NEAR BEING THE ALL AMERICAN FAMILY THAT
NORMAN ROCKWELL PORTRAYED OF AMERICANS ON THE FAMOUS
COVERS OF THE SATURDAY EVENING POST. SORRY THEY ARE
NOT OZZIE AND HARRIOT..
I was in court today and so were misty and amber. i commend them on their strength to show up and stand up for themselves.
Whew…and it all happened right in the 'hood. It does take a village and we all need to be aware and speak up to one another if we witness inappropriate behavior toward our children. We just do.
Thank you all who support Amber and Misty.
I know for a fact neither girls were thrown out of school. Missy was, as far as I understood, doing great in a community college until she disappeared. I never knew why she so abruptly left. I also understand that Amber left school and was not allowed to return to the Gaskill's home. All these allegation of the girls having severe mental defects surprised me for I knew both these girls growing up and neither seemed to be struggling in school. In fact Missy was in a few honors classes with some of my children in high school. Hearing that they were both in court yesterday makes me feel great, they are showing the aren't afraid of their so called family anymore.
To April 26 3:26 Your statements are EXACTLY was what MG has
told everyone for years. I really tend
to BELIEVE IT IS YOU MG that posted the blog.
I and many others have heard YOUR BAD BLOOD
THEORY for YEARS.
NO one in there right mind is buying your BAD BLOOD
THEORY EITHER; (many wonderful people in my
life
were born to ALCHOLIC parents) and some of them even have struggled with alchol addiction themselves. I guess they have BAD BLOOD and should be shunned and revieled by others as those of us that did not have that life experience are sooooo much SUPERIOR because we have "GOOD BLOOD" running through are veins. If we want to EQUATE ALCHOL ABUSE WITH BAD BLOOD than count YOU and YOUR HUSBAND IN THE SAME CATEGORY. It is common knowledge that you and your husband have been seen many times consuming and putting away alholic drinks in a restaurant the two of you have frequented for years and even were seen SMASHED many times, as well as very unlady like behavior on your part, once even coming out of the lady's room with ballons filled with water and putting on a little show that insinuated the ballons were a male body part (if you get my drift). You thought it weas hysterical; others thought you in your inebriated state, were perveted and SICK and DEFINETILY NOT FUNNY. Want to still talk about BAD BLOOD? The TRUTH is MG is that as soon as the girls were finally young adults they were FREE from YOU (and your BAD BLOOD) to get out of DODGE and THINK FOR THEMSELVES! WOW for two UNSTABLE GIRLS they were ABLE and SUCCESSFUL IN SEEKING PUNISHMENT (with more than enough EVIDENCE) to have the man that abused them; YOUR HUSBAND (you know..THE ONE WITH THE GOOD BLOOD JUST LIKE YOU) to have a warrant signed by the state attorney for arrest and now stand trial for (I'm sorry) for two class X felonies of two minors for more than half of their your young lives. The girls'
choice to leave your EVIL home was the BEST THING THAT
EVER HAPPENED and THANK GOd they are OFF OF THE GREAT
PATH you and your sick husband created for them as it
was a path paved with pavers that each represented,
and can be counted, as the many times these girls were
treated unfairly, disrespected, not valued, not loved,
abused verbaly, mentally, emotionally, and while
suffering all of it, they were suffering silently a pain
that they could not reveal until coming of age…
you know the reason your husband was in jail and is
still imprisoned no matter how you cut it as the court
only electonically monitors criminals standing trial
for very serious offenses; and that is not FREEDOM
no matter how you cut it. One more thing; if I needed
a blood transfusion and your family and the girls family
were a match..I DEFINITELY would want the girls family
blood as having alcholism and even drug abuse from
bad choices and becoming addicted as many families
unfortunately go through sometimes at one point in their
lives; does not hold a candle to the bad BLOOD LINE
in YOUR FAMILY. One more thing, if the girls came from
such a bad bloodline, why were you so bent on adopting
their little sister (who you told everyone that she did not have FAS at birth as the mom learned from her mistake
with the other two girls)? AFTER ALL, SHE HAS THE SAME
BLOOD RUNNING THROUGH HER VEINS. THANK GOD SHE IS OUT
OF YOUR GOLDEN PAVED PATH YOU PROVIDED HER SISTERS WITH.
I attended court and the girls were so STRONG and I
think the supporters that showed up fir them BOLSTERD
THEIR SELF-CONFIDENCE and I think went a long way
to show them that people are there for them and will
CONTINUE to be therefor them for the DURATION of
the trial and even after. THe girls glanced and saw
me and though they and I locked eyes for a moment;
I was so glad I attended court as I could tell the
support they were able to have (FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
THEIR ENTIRE LIFE), really meant the world to them
and in the long run will only continue to give them
more courage as they pursue the JUSTICE for themselves;
and now realize they are not ALL ALONE and PEOPLE
BELIEVE THEM and WANT JUSTICE SERVED ON THEIR BEHALF
as they are and have told the TRUTH no matter what the GASKILlS GO AROUND SAYING AND LYING ABOUT THEM.
THE TRUTH of the girls will drown out all the LIES as it stands to reason that law enforcement did their job with an investigation that revealed evidence and TRUTH in the case that their ABUSER is standing trial for.
The biting fetish story was admitted to the police by the offender, even though he and his wife and new attorney are denying it and making it sound like the police twisted his words around to solicitate such a sick statement.Also, the Gaskills can say all day long they fired their first attorney; but her asking to be recused of representing him points to her knowing (he professed guilt) that she could not represent him any longer with the knowledge that there was a confession and no doubt asked him point blank when she took on the case and at some point in the very begining she heard it from the accused herself. This attorney, no doubt has heard this from the horses mouth because if she would no longer be able to defend him as well. Kelly Sago is a good criminal attorney with a good reputation and she did what she had to do as she was after all on the scene to begin with and was able to get facts from the police and the defendent himself.
DEAR TRUE BLOOD,
I tend to believe and FEEL IN MY HEART
that you are either the girls or
the whole family together thanking
all your SUPPORTERS that ARE IN
your CORNER AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE.
THOSE of us that KNOW you two girls
(some from the time you were little),
others in your teen years in high-school
and after graduation know you two have
been so continually thrown under the
bus by these deplorable people; yet
they have not SUCCEEDED IN BREAKING
EITHER ONE OF YOU.
REMEMBER YOU ARE THE STRONG ONES,
THEY ARE WEAK AND BOTH COWARDS
as when confronted with their total
DISREGARD, RESPECT, and their many
UNFORGIVEABLE ways that they treated
and ABUSED THE TWO OF YOU YOUR WHOLE
LIVES; AS YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANY
OF US, there ONLY DEFENSE IS TO MAKE
UP THE MOST VICIOUS LIES AND make
sure they round up PEOPLE that (MANY
NEVER KNEW YOU GROWING UP) that are
so sure everything the Gaskills say
about the two of you MUST BE TRUE
because as you already know (WE WIIL
NEVER REFER TO THEM AS PARENTS TO YOU
AS WE KNOW THEY NEVER WERE) they are
VERY CAPABLE OF FINDING WEAK MINDED
ADULTS THAT FALL FOR THEIR LIES
INITIALLY and BELIEVE every word and
lie that their DELUSIONAL MINDS
make up to DEFEND themselves when
ever real facts come out that cast
dispertions on their real character.
Most of these people believe as you
know that this family walks on water
as they have always used religion
as a shield to hide behind, rather
than actually live in reality as
people that are religious quietly do,
drawing no attention to themselves
as a true relationship with the Lord
is personal and only requires keeping
your faith in GOD sacred in your life.
Keep your faith sacred and know that
GOD MADE YOU AND LOVES YOU AND WILL
BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ALWAYS.
GOD IS ALREADY SHOWING YOU HE KNOWS
YOUR SUFFERING AND IS WORKING AS HE
OFTEN DOES USING OTHER PEOPLE AS
GUARDIAN ANGELS TO WALK BESIDE AND
SUPPORT AND PROTECT YOU FROM EVIL.
YOU GIRLS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME
(I am taking the liberty of speaking
for all of us who support you)
AND WE ALL APPLAUD YOUR DETERMINATION
AND EXTREME COURAGE TO MAKE SURE
THAT JUSTICE IS SERVED. WE WILL
CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU IN EVERY
WAY WE CAN BESIDES GOING TO COURT
AND STAND WITH YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU BOTH
AS WELL AS YOUR
WHOLE FAMILY…
THE GIRLS WERE SO SMART TO GET OUT OF THAT HOUSE.
IT WAS THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD MUSTER UP THE
TREMENDOUS COURAGE IT TOOK TO CONFRONT AND
EXPOSE THE ABUSE THEY HAD TO SUFFER FOR MORE THAN
HALF THEIR LIVES. IT IS VERY COMMON THAT ONCE
AWAY AND NO LONGER AFRAID AND MANIPULATED BY
THEIR ABUSER CHILDREN THAT FINALLY COME OF AGE
AND REALIZE THEY ARE FINALLY FREE THEY ARE ABLE
TO REVEAL THE HORRIBLE SECRET THAT THEY WERE
FORCED TO CARRY AROUND BECAUSE OF FEAR OF CONSEQUENCES,
MANIPULATION AND MIND GAMES BY THE ABUSER THAT
IN THEIR CLUTCHES RENDERS THEM PARAYLIZED WITH FEAR
ALONG WITH THE SERIOUS BURDEN OF MENTALLY AND
EMOTIONALLY BURDENS THAT ARE LIKE CARRYING AN
ELEHPHANT ON THEIR BACK WITH NO END IN SIGHT.
THANKFULLY, DESPITE THE SPIN THE GIRLS ARE STUPID AND
TOTALLY OUT OF THEIR MINDS, AND VICIOUS LIARES SPREAD
AROUND TO EVERYONE MG COMES IN CONTACT WITH, THE
GIRLS ARE BRIGHT, STRONG AND DETERMINED TO RECLAIM
THE LIVES AND CHILDHOOD THAT WERE TRAGICALLY STOLEN
BY A MERE COWARD WHO NEEDED TO HAVE CONTROL SOMEWHERE
IN HIS PATHETIC LIFE AS WELL AS SICK FANTACIES FULLFILLED.
MG CAN SPIN AND THROW OUT THESE STORIES AS MUCH AS
SHE WANTS. NOBODY IN THEIR RIGHT MIND IS BUYING IT
EXCEPT FOR ALL THE OTHER RELIGIOUS FANATICS THEY
NOW HAVE WORSHIPPING THEM AND HOLD ON TO EVERY
LIE THAT COMES OUT OF MG'S MOUTH AND DELUSIONAL
THINKING. SOONER OR LATER OR MAYBE NOT (DEPENDS
HOW GULLIBLE THEY ARE) THEY TOO WILL SEE MG FOR
THE CONTROL FREAK AND PHONY SHE IS; AND HER HUSBAND
FOR THE COWARD HE IS AND IS ON TRIAL FOR.
HOW LONG DID MR. AND MRS. G REALLY THINK IT WOULD
TAKE FOR THESE BRIGHT GIRLS TO FINALLY SETTLE THE
SCORE?
THE LIVES THAT WERE STOLEN FROM THEM RENDERING THEM
MG IS TOTALLY INCAPABLE OF GOOD BEHAVIOR.
THE FACT THAT LYING SO PROFUSELY ABOUT
THE GIRLS CHARACTER, MENTAL STATE, INTELLIGENCE
AND EVEN LYING THAT THEY WERE KICKED OUT OF
THE JR. COLLEGE(sidenote: NOT SURPRISED MISSY
AND AMBER BOTH WENT TO A JR. COLLEGE, BUT
BIO KIDS DID NOT AND EVEN LIVED ON CAMPUSES),
FOR INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR (which the girls never
engaged in any way shape or form in grade and high
school). How guillable besides your BFF religious
nut jobs, do you REALLY THINK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
THAT HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR YEARS ARE?
People that know you, know that you are so good at
lies that you actually really believe them. Maybe that
accounts for people initially believing your lies,
YOU ARE SO GOOD AT IT! Also, for those that did not have a
child in Missy's grade and high school years, MISSY
was VERY BRIGHT. My own child had two honor classes
with her but MG would NEVER willing volunteer how well
MISSY was doing as her bio kid (same age, but MG held
MISSY BACK A YEAR BECAUSE SHE WAS SPECIAL NEEDS DUE
TO FAS WHICH MG USED AS AN EXCUSE TO KEEP THE GIRLS
FROM BEING IN THE SAME GRADE IN SCHOOL), was not
in any honor classes and that is fine; but MG could
not give MISSY the credit she DESERVED as that would
make the bio kid feel bad that she was not in honor
classes. (Personally, I do not think it would bother
the bio kid as she seemed very content and self confident)
So clearly this was just a problem for MG as her need
to hold the bio kids accomplishments far and away
came first and whatever MISSY and AMBER accomplished
was not recognized or applauded.
Despite MG not recognizing MISSY's INTELLIGENCE
many of us parents were aware of it; and it is
NOW CLEARLY VISIBLE AND CAN NOT BE DENIED ANY
LONGER BY MG AS MISSY AND AMBER TOO, ARE SHOWING
JUST HOW INTELLIGENT THEY ARE AS WELL AS DESPITE
MG's EFFORTS ARE SELF ASSURED AND CONFIDENT
ENOUGH TO BRAVELY COME FORWORD AND WERE VERY
POISED YOUNG LADIES IN COURT YESTERDAY.
GIRLS IF YOU ARE READING THE BLOG, WE WHO
SUPPORT YOU AND BELIEVE IN THE TWO OF YOU,
YOU BOTH CAN DO ANYTHING YOU SET YOUR MIND
ON AND YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVED THAT TO MANY
OF THE ADULTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE PROUD
OF BOTH OF YOU COMING FORWORD WHILE KNOWING
MG WOULD PUT YOU BOTH IN THE GUTTER.
GUESS WHAT GIRLS? MG'S REPUTATION PRESEEDS HER
AND NO ONE BUT THEIR GROUPIES ARE BUYING IT.
SO, THAT THREAT IS OFF YOUR SHOULDERS AS TOO
MANY OF US IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW HOW SHE WORKS
THE CROWD ON HER BEHALF WHEN SHE NEEDS OR WANTS TO
SO THE TWO OF YOU ARE NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO A GUTTER
SHE AND HER HUSBAND AND GROPIES ARE.
GIRLS IF YOU ARE READING THIS.. YOU BOTH
Dear Rally and Crabbina,
I personaly would like to thank the two of you
for your advocay for children in state care
fst. parenting and adoption atrocities, and
reporting and educating many people like myself
that knew DCFS was not so great, but had no real idea
how DCFS in the state of IL is so broken and corrupt.
I have had my eyes totally opened wide as the Gaskill
case is in my community and I like many others have
become involved in supporting the two girls at the
heart of this case. Many of our hearts are broken as
a lot of us knew the girls at some point in their
lives and some for there entire life. It pains us
to think about what burden these girls have been carrying
around all by themselves for years. We are grateful
they have put their burden down into the hands of
the court where it should have ended up a long time ago.
However, I have read this forum and not just the blog;
and I now have knoweledge that I did not have before.
Many sexually abused children have and do come forword
as young adults or even older. It makes sense as when
they are living in a home with the abuser, they have
so many fears instilled in them including Why would
anyone believe them over an adult they believe is
superior not only to themselves but others.
Also, like these girls, in many of these type of
cases fear and manipulation are major in a young
child's life as well as all the way to young adulthood
especially if they are living with their abuser.
I intend to become active in our state in any way
I can to expose DCFS and their failure to protect
innocent children that never have a say, or are
responsible for the circumstances in their life
that from the very start are totally at risk
as it is like a crap shoot at who ends up carrying
for them. Some children are lucky if they get a
great home but the number of abuse cases in IL
is staggering and proves most children are set
up for a horrible childhood with abuse of all kinds
even when the people like the Gaskills SEEM like
the children would be safe there. IN the Gaskill
case many knew this family was not quite right,
some witnessed unfair treatment, others verbal
and mental abuse but none of us seperately or
collectively took it upon ourselves to become
busy bodies like MG and did not report our
concerns as we truly put to much trust into DCFS
finding out how odd the family dynamics were
and did not know that children remain silent
for many obvious reasons about their treatment
in daily life and if they are victimized sexually
they suffer silently and alone, Most victims
finally get the courage to come forward once they are no longer in the environment, while many children never
get the courage and live all their lives with a
wound that really never has a chance to heal
because it still is inside of them and not out
in the open. I believe the reason MISSY disappeared
and Amber got herself kicked ou of the home was
the reason they could be finally brave enough to
come forward. Those of us that knew yhe girls
at various times in their life are so proud of
them and we proudly support and will continue to
support them. If it was not for this REFORM blog,
the girls and the community could not have
been joined together to seek justice for these
two girls that suffered way too long.
THanks for all you do on
behalf of children everywhere
TRUE BLOOD: I send my love and support
to the two of you,
I am so very proud of you,
you two have grown into
courageous and very smart
young ladies.
I am sending you two a big
hug. You two are in my prayers,
and I have every confidence that
you two will only get stronger
and just like you were yesterday,
remember you are and always will
be stonger than the coward facing trial.
He and MG can not hurt you any longer.
Let them keep throwing everything
but the kitchen sink at you; and
look them both in the eye with the
real truth: You girls know the truth
and I and others totally believe the
allegations you had to make to set yourself free and make this be a huge turning point in
your lives. You both can be and do anything you want to do;
I for one always knew the two of you to be bright,sweet
and very kind. I hope at the end of this ordeal you both
will be able to receive restitution from the state if
possible and file a law suit against Mr and MRS G,
no amount of money can undo the pain you suffered and
your lost childhood and innocence; but it can help you
start over and pursue educational goals or whatever it
is that will make you happy..
Keep the faith of GOD in your
heart and soul. Like the footprint
prayer he has carried you both
all of your life and is still
carrying you through this time
in your life. Remember also,
many people are supporting you
and will be there for you each step of the
way.
Love to you and your family.
I'm sure they are very proud of
you and please know that I
and many others know your
family may have had some
problems, many families do.
The important thing is that
they are there for you, and
together with God's help
you will make up for the
years you were apart; and
working together you can
and will find happiness
and if any problems exsist
or arise; the two of you
will know not only know how
to handle it, but are strong
enough to deal with anything
and be a real strength to
whoever needs your help.
Just so you know,there is no
such thing as bad blood..
just bad people.
P.S. IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE RADIO STATION
K-LOVE ON FM RADIO (A WONDERFUL CONTEMPORARY CHRISTIAN
STATION) There are many songs
that have lyrics that you can
totally identify with.
I thought of the two of you the other day,
there is a song called STRONG ENOUGH.(forgot
the artists name),please look it up on the computer
and read and listen to the lyrics. Listen to
k-love whenever you can as the station has
helped many people including myself in hard
times and reminds you to celebrate the good times as
well.
Reading this blog and information that has been forthcoming from
the blog since people started giving their brutally honest about
Mr. Mrs. G, it has been become thankfully, and very apparent
that the two of them put together equal adults that were very
comfortable exploiting children placed in their home sadly by
DCFS. THe information particularly that MG and people just like
her, is and has been is nothing more than a complete slander case
of the two girls that the couple had the nerve and were allowed to be adopted.
MG has been continually lying about these girls their whole life.
Even now, she and her "CHURCH LADY GROUP" are lying through
their teeth about these two girls. If one was sucker enough to believe
her vicious lies one would think and be led to believe that these two
girls were severely impaired in not only their mental status but their
intelligence as well, all the while telling people the girls were so
horrible in college and were thrown out for INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR
and were two girls with such serious problems due to their "BAD BLOOD"
line as supposedly were so impaired from the affects of their mom
drinking while she was pregnant, and these girls are and always will
be damaged by FAS. THe truth is the girls are NOT mentally impaired
or lack good character and INTELLIGENCE as she would like everyone
to believe. If the girls had any mental and emotional problems ever;
it was because MG and her hen-pecked sick husband caused these
girls so much harm that it would be impossible not to become
distressed, depressed and experience emotional problems somewhere
along the way. THe girls carried so much heartache and no doubt
extreme stress and internal suffering; it is amazing how they were
able to come through it and now as young women be not only extremely
able, but very strong and intelligent to expose the horrible abuse
(that the abuser inflicted on them for more than half their life) on
top of the other many abuses and unfair and mistreatment they
had to deal with that MG was more than capable of, adding more
misery and suffering in their lives.
The fact that MG has lied and does lie ( she truly believes her own lies)
now about how horrible and severely disturbed the young girls are
is a desperate woman's attempt to take the focus off her despicable
husband and the very strong possibility that the crimes he is accused
of and has had his freedom taken away from him as he faces serious charges
that very well (if and when convicted) will be going to jail for a very long time).
MG has become even more of serial liar and really expects everyone to buy
all the trash she (including the bad-blood) according to her, explains how
her husband is in the trouble he is in today.
Missy was in honor classes in high school, very congenial and kind (my son
knew her well) and to think her so called mother has never given her
any credit and actually wants everyone to believe she was kicked out
of the Jr. college (also doing well there due to her extreme mental problems
and deficiencies. Amber quit school right after MIssy did the right thing
and left that crazy house as the only way she could finally expose the
accused she could not live there any longer. Amber, was no doubt aware
of her sisters' reasons and plan and knew her sister loved her and their
little sister, and left school and her loving wardens kicked her out of the
house. Thankfully, Amber knew what to do and where to go and also
finally was free from these two sick people.
If this does not prove THE INTELLIGENT, RESOURCEFUL,COURAGEOUS
AND HEALTHY STATE OF MIND THESE TWO GIRLS HAVE
DEMONSTRATED ; I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES!
HEY APR.26 3:21 PM
SHOCKING! DCFS after COUNSELING and TUDORING
the girls 5 times a month-every year found the girls doing fine , and YIKES! Their SEVERE MENTAL PROBLEMS from BIRTH were DEEMED UNDER CONTROL? Of course it makes you wonder aboutDCF'S COMPETENCY Hmmmmmmmm, Lets get this straight, these girls (though totally mentally unstable with serious PROBLEMS) of COURSE SINCE BIRTH, DCFS did nothing to help the girls; because they just could not see their serious disturbances and rendered the girls fine physically and mentally? HOW DARE THEM NOT SEE WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND WITNESSED BEFORE THEY LEFT HOME.THE GIRLS WERE JUST SO RIDDLED
WITH SO MANY PROBLEMS.The truth is and must kill you that despite every way you disparaged and degreated these girls,(telling everyone in the community, even in front of them) with your constant
continual criticism of the two girls; they both progressed well
in grade school and high school doing quite well, and in MISTYS'
case proved to be quite bright; even being placed in honorS
classes. The girls also were not trouble makers in grade
or high school, or acting out with INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR.
Nor, did the grade or high school detect SEVERE MENTAL PROBLEMS that would have precluded them from staying in school
UNTIL DEEMED MENTALLY WELL. ALSO, in both school districts
the district would have paid and provided for their
education to continue in a day program downtown for
children struggling with various mental conditions
and receive treatment so they could resume their education
back in their regular school. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN BECAUSE
THE GIRLS EACH WERE PROGRESSING WELL WITH THEIR INDIVIDUAL
EDUCATIONAL NEEDS AND NOT MENTALLY UNSTABLE. It seems now that your husband is in trouble, you are so UPSET and DISTRAUGHT that DCFS based
on what you have stated, after numerous and intense tudoring
and counseling, DID NOT SEE WHAT DISTURBED GIRLS THEY
WERE; LIKE YOU WANT EVERYONE AND THEIR BROTHER TO BELIEVE
BECAUSE AFTER ALL, THESE GIRLS ARE SO DISTURBED AND
ALWAYS WILL BE, BECAUSE OF THEIR BAD BLOODLINE THAT
THEY ACTUALLY LEFT A VERY HAPPY LOVING HOME (WITH I'M
SURE A ROYAL BLOOD LINE)AND THE PATHETIC PATH YOU WORKED
SO TIRELESLY TO ACHIEVE FOR THEM BECAUSE YOU WERE SO
DEDICATED AND A TRULY AMAZING LOVING MOTHER TO THE GIRLS.
HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY WANT OUT OF SUCH A LOVING
ENVIRONMENT AND LEAVE AFTER ALL YOU DID SACRIFICING
EVEN YOUR OWN LIFE AND YOUR CHILDRENS' FOR THEM? ALSO, EVERYTHING YOU DID TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD OVERCOME THEIR MANY DEFICIENCIES AND MENTAL INSTABILITY AND HAVE A REAL SHOT AT WORKING AT MCDONALDS THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
ON TOP OF EVERTHING "YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND DID FOR
THE TWO OF THEM", they still are so mentally incompetent
as well as delusional coming forward to fabricate the
accusation of being sexually abused and even producing
credible EVIDENCE out of a magical "rabbits" hat they
they found on that wonderful PATH you toiled and sweated
on paving for them their entire lives.
Where is everyone that knew it was the girls'
that were so disturbed and pathelogical liars as well?
GEE, it seems all people can remember is a home where
two girls suffered and never had a normal childhood,
and were abused in ways that have been referenced on
this blog, and all the while behind closed doors
suffered abuse that the girls have finally been able to
seek justice for by providing the state with enough
evidence that the accused is standing trial for.
Why don't people realize how many very serious problems
these girls have; besides being so unintelligent that
even an honor student required tudoring five times
a week for years? Why aren't people coming forward
surely with one or two experience of mental instability
for one or both the girls? The SILENCE IS DEAFINING.
To april 26th. 12:08p.m. and others, the girls were never adopted by the Gaskill family. That is what Mr. and Mrs. want you to think or have told you. Do the research on that if you need proof. Unfortunately it was not even close to being a real family for them. It was just a way station untill they could be united with their real loved ones.
Mrs. F.N.
someone asked if the Catholic priests heard about this blog–by all means, tell them and let them in on the fun. They would be so proud of their parishioners!?
I sent a letter and the BLOG URL to the Archdiocese of Chicago more than two weeks ago.
As a correction to: April 30, 2012 12:14 PM
The Gaskills (Mr and Mrs) are ex-parishoners of St. Luke and ex-Catholics for at least a decade and a half. The same may be said for at least 3 of the 4 bio-children.
DEAR Mrs. F.N., I am Apr 26th 12:08 PM,
I am totally blown away. I just read your message that the girls were NEVER ADOPTED BY THE GASKILLS.
Mary and her husband (the other liar),told everyone a long, long, time ago the girls were adopted and the girls even used the GASKIL NAME IN SCHOOL. They have a high-shool age boy that has been with them since a baby and say they adopted him. The boy has been returned to the home with two other chidren they claim to be have adopted as well. This was shocking for me to read about the girls not being adopted but I am NOT SURPRISED as the two of them are very comfortable lying and I really think after awhile they are both so deliusional that they BELIEVE their own lies. The two of them both said they adopted the terminaaly ill girl that passed away. The obit proved
other wise and listed her legal last name, her biological parents name and listed Mary and Rob as the FOSTER PARENTS.
You have just confirmed what I and many people have always believed. Many of us myself included, always thought the Gaskill was just a boarding house, or way station as you put it and NOTHING MORE. The Gaskills WANTED people to BELIEVE their ADOPTION SPIN to elevate themselves even more. After all, people would admire them more as they adopted the children (because they LOVED THEM AS MUCH AS THEIR BIO CHILDREN; as THAT IS WHAT THE HEART OF ADOPTION IS ALL ABOUT. LOVE IS THE REASON TO ADOPT A BABY OR CHILD PERIOD. THIS is so TYPICAL of what a SERIAL LIAR MARY IS (AND ROB AS WELL). THE ADOPTION STORY now than I think about also served as a cover-up of sorts. People that think the state STOPS SENDING MONEY EVERY MONTH to FST PARENTS IF A CHILD IS ADOPTED are out there as they do not know how DCFS works in cases of children that are considered special needs when adopted by FST. PARENTS. THE FACT IS THE GASKILLS KNEW PEOPLE WOULD THINK THEY WERE
NOT IN FOR THE MONEY IF THEY CLAIMED TO BE ADOPTED PARENTS OF A CHILD OR CHILDREN. People do not know that even though a child is adopted in fst care the parents STILL GET PAID. The Gaskills knew people knew that when children are in FOSTER CARE with SPECIAL NEEDS THAT THEY WERE PAID A TIDY SUM OF MONEY PER CHILD TAX FREE. The GASKILLS OBVIOUSLY WERE PULLING ANOTHER OF THEIR MANY SELF-SERVING LIES AND BASKED IN THE ADULATION THAT BESIDES HAVING FOUR BIO CHILDREN THEY JUST HAVE SO MUCH LOVE FOR CHILDREN AND THERE LIFE WOULD JUST NOT BE COMPLETE IF THEY DID NOT EXPAND THEIR FAMILY BY ADOPTING
THE FOSTER CHILDEREN THAT WERE IN THEIR CARE, AS THERE COULD NOT BEAR TO BE WITHOUT THESE CHILDREN IN THEIR LIVES EVEN HAVING FOUR BIO CHILDREN OF THEIR OWN.
THE TWO OF THEM MAKE ME SICK. MARY IS OUT THERE LYING THROUGH HER TEETH THAT THE GIRLS ARE LYING AND HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS THAT THEY WERE BORN WITH FROM THEIR BAD BLOOD FAMILY. WHAT A CROCK MARY. ALL THE LYING YOU HAVE DONE AS WELL AS YOUR HUSBAND PROVES WHO THE REAL LIARS ARE AND MENTALLY UNSTABLE. YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND ARE MASTERS AT PUTTING ON THE DOG WHENEVER YOU WANT OR HAVE TO.YOU BOTH DUPED MANY PEOPLE WHO FINALLY REALIZED THE LOW LIVES THE TWO OF YOU ARE LONG AGO. WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT ANYONE KNOWING WHAT YOU TWO ARE REALLY ABOUT AND WHO YOU REALLY ARE BELIEVE THAT ROB'S INNOCENT PLEA IN COURT IS NOT A LIE. ROB LEARNED FROM THE QUENN OF LYING HERSELF AND IS MORE THAN ABLE TO LIE WITH A STAIGHT LOOK ON HIS FACE. PROBLEM IS, BEFORE HIS ATTORNEY ARRIVED WHEN ARRESTED HE VOLUNTEERED INCRIMINATING STATEMENTS INCLUDING THE "BITING FETISH" STORY. WHY ELSE DID HE GO TO JAIL AND IS FACING CHARGES FOR THE COWARDLY SEX ABUSER HE IS?
THE FACT THAT YOU TWO WANTED EVERONE TO BELIEVE YOU WERE ADOPTED PARENTS IS A SLAP TO EVERY WONDERFUL LOVING PARENTS AND CHILDREN THAT ARE ADOPTED FAMILIES EVERY WHERE. THIS LATEST EXPOSED LIE IS NOT GOING TO HELP ROB TO HOLD ON TO HIS CHURCH CHIOR ROBE AND YOUR FAKE SET OF WINGS.
APRil 30 12:41
St. Luke priests know the outrage parishioners
EXPERIENCED because of you MARY with your
SICK AND FALSE ALLEGATIONS, AS THEY WERE
APPAULED AND SICKENED BY YOU. YOUR SICK MIND
WAS WORKING OVERTIME DREAMING UP A WAY TO TRY
TO DESTROY A WONDREFUL YOUNG IMMIGRANT PRIESTS
LIFE. I'm SURE the PRIESTS know about the blog
and no doubt read about how many people know
how very sick you are and how by giving examples
how you and your sex abuser husband could not
AND DID NOT RESPECT THE YOUNG LIVES THAT HAD
EVERY RIGHT TO BE TREATED WITH LOVE RESPECT
AND HUMAN DIGNITY. CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT AND
THE MOST VULNERABLE OF THE VULNERABLE; and
this blog is really about PEOPLE WHO KNOW
BY YOUR LYING AND ABUSIVE HOME THAT CHILDREN
WERE NOT RESPECTED; AND EVERY INSTANCE YOU
MISTREATED, ABUSED VERBALLY AND MENTALLY
AS WELL AS SEXUALLY TWO INNOCENT GIRLS
GROWING UP THEIR ENTIRE CHILDHOOD AND DENYING
THEM DIGNITY AND RESPECT NNO DOUBT ARE GLAD
PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE GIRl's AIDE BY
SUPPORTING THEM EVERY WAY THEY CAN AS THAT
IS WHAT WE AS ADULTS NEED TO DO FOR CHILDREN
THAT HAVE OR ARE VICTIMS OF ABUSE AND IN THIS
CASE NEED SUPPORT AND LOVE ,RESPECT and DIGNITY
THEY NEVER RECEIVED THEIR ENTIRE LIFE THRU NO
FAULT OF THEIR OWN; JUST THE WORST POSSIBLE
DECISION OF PLACING THEM IN A HOME THAT
ONLY RESPECTED THE PAYCHECK RECEIVED BY
A STATE AGENCY, DCFS, THAT TOO MANY TIMES
FAIL CHILDREN LIKE THEY DID IN THIS CASE.
FYI: INVESTIGATORS NEED TO CHECK OUT INFORMATION
GIVEN TO THEM BY PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG THAT HAVE
AND DO REVEAL THEIR IDENTITY TO THEM PERSONALLY,
THEY HAVE HEARD THE St. LUKE DEBACLE AND ALREADY
HAVE CHECKED OUT THAT INFO AWHILE AGO, so don't
WORRY ST, LUKE AND THE CHICAGO ARCHDIOCESE
VALIDATED ALREADY THE TROUBLE YOU CAUSED AND
YOUR HUSBAND LOSING HIS JOB AS PUBLISHER OF
THE CATHOLIC NEWSPAPER THE NEW WORLD THAT
WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF YOUR VICIOUS LIE AGAINST
A PRIEST THAT THE ARCHDIOCESE INVESTIGATED
AND QUESTIONED ALL PARTIES INVOLVED AND CONCLUDED
THE ALLEGATIONS WERE FABRICATED BY A VERY DISTURBED
WOMAN.THIS BLOG IS NOT ABOUT FUN FOR ANYONE TO
READ AS THE READING MATERIAL WEAVES WHY AND
HOW TWO GIRLS WERE FORCED TO SUFFER IN A BOARDING
HOUSE RUN BY TWO GREEDY PEOPLE THAT ONLY SAW
DOLLAR SIGNS INSTEAD OF TWO GIRLS WHO NEEDED
AND DESERVED A LOVING HOME WITH LOVING PARENTS.
TRUE BLOOD
Just found out reading this blog,
that the two of you never were
really adopted by the GAskills.
That is great news for you as
you will not legally have to
have your last name changed
to your biological family.
Great news. You are now finally
free of them in every way, including
freedom of a name that is and will
never be a name that can be worthy
of respect because of the horrible
way the two of you were treated and
never repected you whole lives.
Stay strong and know many people in
the community are and will be there for
you and by getting DCFS to explain
how they let the two of you suffer
in a home that never really was a home
that you both deserved to grow up
in and have a HAPPY NORMAL CHILDHOOD.
MG, I think you better make good on being
on your best behavior as your husbands
attorney advised you (reported on this blog)
We all know how hard it is for you to
behave… so try staying off this blog
and chiming in (so apparent).
THe blog really is now a community blog
that has joined many people together
to be there and SUPPORT the girls as
they never received SUPPORT from you
and your family in the sense of being
loved and a real part of a loving home
like you tried so hard for many to believe
including ADOPTING THE TWO GIRLS and it
is now in the open that that was another
one of your many LIES that you told very
matter of factly, I might add, to everyone
you knew and knew the girls.
It takes a village to support children that
have been so horribly treated and abused
plus criminal abuse as well, to help
those children when they were forced to suffer their whole life in a home where none of us would want
a pet flea to live in.The blog does reference you and your husband because after all you were the adults
that are totally responsible for along with DCFS your
partners in crime.
I am so happy the girls are finally reunited
with their biological family and I wish them
well reclaiming their life and rebuilding
a family relationship with family and have
a true new beginning with their whole biological
family who no doubt suffered as well for the
girls having to be in foster care.
The girls are smart and resourceful (look at what
and how they have sought justice for themselves)
and I'm sure will be a real help and inspiration
showing their family that it IS POSSIBLE TO
CONFRONT ADVERSITIES and RECLAIM LIFE with
COURAGE AND DETERMINATION.
I do commend all parents who adopt for the right reasons. To love and care for a child and provide them with a family that they may otherwise not have. They truly deserve the right to be called parents. May God bless those people and keep them in his care so they may continue to care for the children that need them. Its just too bad DCFS doesn't do its homework as it should to find them.
Mrs. F.N.
catholic priests, child abuse/ molestation, fun????? Really April 3oth
Hey Apr 30th 12:14 PM
Guess what? Everyone that has written about their
unfortunate experiences witnessing abusive verbal
language to the girls, mistreatment, unfair rules
that only applied to them, talking about the girls
private information that you had no right to share
as well as very odd family dynamics that were
baffling and left many people ill at ease with
being around witnessing some or all of the unsettling
behaviors listed above are not all St. Luke parishiners.
Many many people that had the priviledge of knowing
everthing listed above and probably more than St. Lukers,
have chosen to share their discomfort at some point
in a friendship with this family that as it evolved
over a period of time, they too realized that this
couple was not who they thought they were; and in fact
were very uncomfortable witnessing the many ways
the girls were treated overtly as well as in sutle
ways that were obviously not in line in how any
child or children be treated by their parents or
parent.There is a large faction from Calvery that
also have felt a need to voice the many reasons
they grew disturbed with this couple and the parenting
of what they professed "their adopted daughters".
If it was not for this blog many people from both
church communities would still be falsely believing
the girls were adopted daughters into this family.
This revelation is just the icing on the cake.
Although nothing tops the abuse that the accused is
now standing trial for and has lost his freedom for
by being on house arrest and electronically
monitered to makr sure his freedom in society
is no longer a priveldge for him due to the very
serious nature of the crimes a grand jury indited
him for.I'm sure the elders at here at Calvery
church if reading this blog are not having "FUN"
with the examples given about how many in the
Calvery community have shared to give further
information on their experiences and some just
feeling something was not quite right or off
with this couple and now know exactly what it
was and that their intuition was correct.
The two church communities different in religious
doctrine and practices both share and are
sadly connected as both communities suffered
damage from the Gaskill couple. Mary left St.
Luke as she had no choice; and the same thing happened
at Calvery when she was suddenly asked to leave
by the church eldrers who ALL SIGNED OFF ON.
The two communities both were baffled with the
unfortunate behavior of MG and both have many
people they left behind with less than respectful
feelings for the way they parented their UNADOPTED
DAUGHTERS THAT ALONG WITH ALL THEIR OTHER LIES
AND BEHAVIOR NOW ADD UP TO A HOME THAT WAS FOR
THE FOSTER CHILDREN NOTHING MORE THAN A BOARDING
HOUSE THAT THE CHILDREN PAID WITH THEIR LIVES
AND WELL THE GASKILLS….SIMPLY CASHED IN
ON THE STATES' CHECKS EVERY MONTH AND ACTUALLY
REAPED THE BENEFITS OF THE CHILDRENS' MISERY.
THIS BLOG IS NOT IN ANY WAY A "FUN" BLOG or
"FUN" READING FOR ANYONE UNLESS YOU ARE SOMEONE
THAT DELIGHTS IN READING ABOUT THE GROSS
AND DESPICABLE BEHAVIOR THAT HAPPENS TO TOO
MANY CHILDREN THAT DCFS FAILS AND DOES NOT PROTECT.
Are people going to bring in the Archdiosese to evaluate issues regarding morality and child abuse?
Rally or Crabbina–
Is there somewhere we can confirm if the girls were actually adopted? Is there a public registry or any place that you are aware of?
I do think the adoptions were finalized.
The only reason the Archdiosese is and has been discussed on this blog; is DUH…..MG totally showed how really
sick her mind was and is when she made false allegations
against a priest at St. Luke that was a blatant lie
and even slander that caused the church and the Archdiosese
to have an investigation that questioned all parties
involved including FATHER PAUL RYCHER(who is nobodys' fool)
and of course MG herself and concluded no merit in her
false accusations and I'm sure between themselves rendered
her a sick woman with serious issues and no doubt prayed
for her and her family that were from the time this all became common knowledge people were distressed and totally mystified how low MG went down with her vicious lying; and MG knew
she would never be able to live what she did down(she took
off ASAP and landed at Calvery where she caused a lot of internal trouble and was such a nosy body and irritated
many people that were not part of her unknowing fan club.
Again, she got herself in serious trouble having to do
with financial matters and was released from her position
and she never went back to Calverly either as once again
their was the same element of problematic and serious
character and mental issues that presented themselves
once again that people were astonished and baffled
of the behavior in each instance that did not put MG
in good stead with many in the church community.
the Catholic church as well as Calverly can only
evaluate the character or lack of character that
caused troubling circumstances in their church community,
and can only verify that her departure was due to
troubling and disturbing circumstances that MG and MG
alone caused and brought trouble to both churches with
St.Luke being the worse.These two examples are examples
of MG and her lying problems and even in Calverys case
someone who could no longer be trusted in the position
she held as again her character or lack of character
became a problem of trust and credibility.
The court system is now the judge of what kind of home
parents, and treatment of the two girls as facts that
will show how indeed this was a home that has all the
ear marks of a home where the dynamics were such that
sexual abuse can and does happen, The state already has
made a strong case of the abuse that the girls have
exposed; otherwise the accused would not be facing a
trial of not one but two class X felonies against his
unadopted daughters and standing trial for.
It goes without saying that the two churches that MG
caused trouble enough to have to leave, as well as
everyone on the planet can make their own jugement
about morality annd child abuse.Anyone that can mistreat,
abuse a child or children has no values and absolutely
no morals and lie and pass themselves as people that
live their life according to their professed faith in
God our NOT ONLY LACKING MORALITY BUT ALSO LACK HUMANITY
to abuse children and in this case no scruples whatsoever.
Thank God for these girls breaking their silence as….
yes every church, priest, pastor, and members of the
community at large (even the people on the jury) can
conclude that people that can and do abuse children
lack morality and even a sense of conscience…
how can people like this live with themselves,look
in the mirror and sleep at night while abusing a
child or children that are totally helpless yet
totally dependent on them???
Anonymous April 30 with regard to adoption records: They would be sealed to the public so we can't verify that. Only the Gaskills and hopefully the girls would know for sure. Even after adoption, the adoptive parents still get money from the state.
Rally
At some point the prosecution during
their investigation, the state attorney
office will no doubt be checking with DCFS
on their involvement with the supervision
and responsibility of the welfare of the girls
so won't they be able to know if the
girls were adopted by the Gaskills
or not according to records and of course
the girls themselves?
You did state that the in this case (can not
use the words adpt/pareents) the imposters
of parents of the girls (either way), if
they indeed adopted the girls at some point,
it was because at one time when they were
a little older the original agency in
Oak Park and DCFS were considering placing
the girls that could very well give them
the opportunity to be adopted, and the
imposters immediately somehow switched
to a catholic agency and were able to
remove themselves from the Oak Park
agency, and in time supposedly adopted
the girls. The only reason if they did
adopt the girls or any other children was
to INSURE THEY COULD NOT BE ADOPTED OR
placed in another foster home were there
would be likely parents that would have
wanted to adopt the girls.
The imposters are not stupid, if they did
not make a move to adopt, the threat of
the girls being adopted by parents that were
qualified and waiting to become parents
could or would have happened leaving them
without the paycheck every month so if
indeed they really did adopt the girls or
ANY other children the motive was not because
they loved the girls or children so much,
that they could not bare life without them.
The motive is crystal clear, they knew if they
adopted the money they so greedily collected
each month would still be coming in from
the state and that IS WHAT THEY COULD NOT PART
WITH AND BARE.
Mrs. F. N, if you can shed more ligh on this adoption question it would be appreciated.
Anonymous 9:38 AM May 1: Yes the prosecution would know this already. Whether or not that comes out in court or in the media, I can't say.There is no way for us to independently verify.
The Gaskills are and have been SCAMMERS
their whole life. If there was a threat
or they felt one of these children or
in the girls case could be placed in a
different home and their money would
dry up, they would run so fast to find
a attorney to make sure their money
source (the children) could not be removed
to KEEP THEIR BIG BUCKS COMING IN.
To even be referred to to as adoptive parents
is sickening. Adoptive parents go through
so many channels to fulfill their dream of
becoming parents and together with their
children are examples of the true meaning
of what LOVE IS AND LOOKS LIKE.
I for one will be referring to these selfish
money grubbers, child abusers, and the accused
pervert as what they really are and have always been "FOXES" IN SHEEPS CLOTHING that in their DISGUISE
PREY ON INNOCENT CHILDREN AND GO UNDETECTED
UNTIL THEY ARE CAUGHT WHEN THEY ARE FINALLY
HUNTED DOWN AND EXPOSED FOR JUST HOW DANGEROUS
THEY ARE. MR AND MRS FOX ARE YOU LISTENING?
Dear TRUE BLOOD,
IF the two of you were legally adopted by the Gaskills;
begin now, if you already have not, legal proceedings
to get rid of that last name as soon as possible.
However, perhaps if you really were adopted (which means
the Gaskills accepted and vowed to be parents to the two of you
in every sense of the word parent); attorneys may advise you
to wait until the trial is over as I imagine the fact that they would
abuse and mistreat you girls on so many levels, while legally being
your parents, (although just as reprehensible as fst. parents),
it could help you be even more sucessful to receiving money
from a civil law suit against them as it makes them even more
despicable to have adopted you girls so the money from the
state would not stop coming in every month while you girls
received nothing but suffering from many abuses, of course
the worse (although the abuses are all horrible) the sexual
which you suffered even before you were adopted as well as after.
DCFS is responsible as well, I would think the state owes you
both restitution for failing you miserably as well. Perhaps, the
state can also seek to retrieve money that this couple clearly
should have never received and sue them as well to gain money
back and make sure the money is given to the two of you for
the suffering and abuse you had inflicted on you, and were forced
to carry around silently as these people were an are very able to
frighten and manipulate children as they did to many adults that
experienced the viciousness and sick behavior were intimidated enough
to get away from MG as she clearly has a serious mental disorder
that she even had before the two of you were even born.
The Gaskills are afraid of the IRS for a reason. Your attorney she probe
why that is and find out exactly their net worth if they are hiding money
and claim they have no savings in accounts or investments.
They also own a home that if needed they will be forced to sell if
they need to satisfy a settlement that is reached on your behalf
as compensation ( no dollar amount could make up for all you suffered),
for the mistreatment and abuse they inflicted on the two of you
and even were paid for their despicable false parenting as well.
Hopefully, the prospect of restitution and or a settlement from
a law suit has been discussed with you, and you ultimately receive
money that you deserve and can use pursuing higher education,
as well as a savings account to start your new life as young adults
to be there for you to use as you need to to.
I truly believe and hope you can sue and receive money as you
clearly deserve it and you have paid with your lives being
ruined while the Gaskills were paid each month for simply
boarding the two of you in their house and taking away your
entire childhood. Become pro-active on the issue of law suits
as I do believe you will be able to to receive a settlement
that you both deserve and can use as you move forward in
reclaiming your lives and rebuilding a future that you
not only deserve as you have paid a huge price with
living through a nightmare of a childhood.
Much LOVE and PRAYERS
I was told by both Mary and Rob Gaskill that they were going to adopt Missy, but never Amber–"because who would want to be in charge of something like that?"
Is there anything more that EVER has to be said about the Gaskills'? I think not.
I did not know that if you adopted a child that was
a foster child, you would receive money still from the state. I really thought that when the Gaskills adopted
or said they adopted they were truly supporting
the children on their own and I believed that
their heart was in the right place, as couples
that adopt in my experience adopt because of their
true love that a child could benefit from as well
as living in a loving home with parents that love
them as their own. I now know that was not the
case here, and it is sad that these children
were really a business in a sense that paid them
generously for caring for the children.
It really is sad, and does not speak well
of this family as they obviously were and are
something they are not. PARENTS.
Yes, it's probably better to keep church or any religious evaluation of morality out of this, as history has reflected the inconsistancy and hypocrisy of these institutions.
TRUE BLOOD,
There seems to de a debate on this blog
regarding if an adoption ever really
did take place withthe two of you
girls.As far as you changing your
last name as you as you can if it was
legaly changed to Gskill; you could
get advice on perhaps the timing of
you doing so. In the meantime, nothing
can stop you from simply not using the
name or writing it. I would think now
that you are finally free of them
even having to carry their last name
is burdensome, so if it is legal you
don't have to give it any part of
your life and use if you are not already,
your own family name which will be
another step away from removing these
people of "ROYALTY" from your lives.
May1 4:47PM THE GASKILLS ARE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT
RELIGION INTO THIS FROM THE START.
THEY USED THEIR CURRENT CHURCH
BUDDIES TO CRAM THE COURTROOM
AND WRITE LETTERS ABOUT HOW THIS
RELIGIOUS MAN IS BEYOND REPROACH
AS HE IS THE PERFECT FATHER,FAMILY
MAN AND HIS MORAL CHARACTER EXEMPLIFIED
BY HIS STRONG FAITH COULD NOT POSSIBLY
BE IN QUESTION,AND THAT THERE IS NO
WAY HE COULD HAVE ABUSED THE GIRLS.
THESE SAME PEOPLE ALONG WITH MG HAVE
ACCUSED THE GIRLS OF BEING LIARS,
MENTALLY INCOMPETENT, AND COME FROM
A BAD BLOOD LINE, AND THE ALLEGATIONS
AGAINST THE ACCUSER ARE THE WORK OF
SATAN DOING HIS BEST TO ATTACK THIS
MAN WITH ALLEGATIONS FROM TWO VERY
UNSTABLE GIRLS.
NO ONE ON THIS BLOG INCLUDING A CHURCH
OR CHURCHES HAS EVALUATED ACCORDING
TO ANY CHURCH BELIEFS OR DOCTRINE
ANYTHING ABOUT THE QUESTION OF MORALITY
OR LACK OF MORALITY.
INSINUATING THAT HISTORY HAS REFLECTED
HYPOCRISY BY ANY PARTICULAR RELIGIOUS
INSTITUTION IN EVALUATING MORALITY
AND IT IS BEST TO KEEP RELIGIOUS
EVALUATION OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION
AND CASE IS ABSURD AS NO CHURCH
HAS OR WILL MAKE A STATEMENT
AND IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD LIKELY
RESPOND THAT THEY ARE PRAYING FOR
EVERYONE IN THIS CASE,AS THIS CASE
HAS IMPACTED AND IS CAUSING SUFFERING
FOR A ENTIRE FAMILY (IMMEDIATE AS WELL
AS EXTENDED).I HARDLY WOULD FIND
THAT HYPOCRITICAL AS CHURCHES AND
PASTORS AND PRIESTS IN ANY DENOMINATION
BECAUSE OF THEIR FAITH, PRAY FOR ALL
THAT ARE INVOLVED AND REALIZE THAT
THERE IS EITHER GUILT OR INNONENCE,
AND EITHER WAY THERE ARE AND WILL BE NO
WINNERS, JUST MANY PEOPLE THAT WILL
NEED SUPPORT AND PRAYERS TO GET
THROUGH WHATEVER THE OUTCOME AS
A CASE LIKE THIS WILL IMPACT AND
HAVE LASTING AFFECTS FOR A LIFETIME.
THE JURY WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER NOT
ONLY EVIDENCE BUT BECAUSE OF THE
NATURE OF THIS CASE CHARACTER, VALUES
AND MORALITY WILL HAVE TO BE DETRMINED
AND NO DOUBT WILL ENTER INTO THEIR DECISION AND AFTER THE DECISION IF THEY HAVE AND PRACTICE A FAITH THEY TOO WILL PRAY FOR ALL INVOLVED, AS THIS CASE IS TRAGIC AND AS STATED EARLIER, HAS ALREADY AND WILL HAVE LASTING AFFECTS ON EVERYONE INVOLVED.
May1 4:47 PM
After reading your comment about leaving
the church out of any discussion as well as religious evaluations of
morality because history has reflected
the inconsistencies and hypocrisy of these
institutions?
Your remark uses the singular word church and
not churches. The implication your statement
makes is nothing but a snyde remark directed
at the Catholic church.(and no doubt Catholics)
Reading between the lines you are really
singuling out the Catholic church and have
tried to INMPLIY that the Catholic Church
doctrine and faith has had a HISTORY of being
INCONSISTENT as well and is a INSTITUTION
of HYPOCRISY.
Really? Then everyone that is CATHOLIC and
practices their faith is therfore a HYPOCRITE
along with their FAITH and CHURCH?
The implication is that other "CHURCH DENOMINATIONS"
do not have any history of HYPOCRISY in their
particular domination and religious beliefs.
This snyde comment, is like the pot calling
the kettle black.
The pastor of ST. Luke church despite
the problem and uproar NEVER ASKED MARY
AND HER FAMILY TO LEAVE.
Mary chose to leave
in quick order and was amazingly able to
embrace a different church faith group.
Mary and her husband are now very comfortable bashing
Catholics and thinks (disturbling) that all
Catholics are hypocrites and evil.
Ironically, her husband when he was Catholic
would bash the very people that are an have
been in their new faith groups as nothing but
"HEATHONS" and wanted nothing to do with them
and as he put it "THEIR BIBLE THUMPING" mentally
and Christian faith that was phoney and sickening.
Also, whoever wrote the remark that prompted
this blog, you can DENY ALL DAY LONG YOU WERE
NOT REFERRING AND SINGULING OUT THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH, if you truly were a person of faith
and truly believe in GOD you would realize
that people of most other denominations all
have in common is obvious A TRUE BELIEF AND
THE FAITH IN GOD.
Sorry for any misunderstanding, just responding to April 30th 12:14 post… telling the priests and letting them in on the fun
Wow…so much hate in these posts. Rally can obviously see the IP addresses of all who comment. I would bet that the same 3 or 4 people are constantly commenting. Does anyone doubt they have an agenda? What if Rob is innocent? Is it possible? Yes. If he is guilty, then I hope he is punished, because what is alleged is terrible. Is Mary G. perfect? No, she is a sinner saved by Grace. There is such hatred in the posts. When the time comes, do you, the posters want to be judged as harshly as you condemn Mary? I don't know if the things said are true or not, but I can identify evil. Many of the comments seem to be evil. I could be wrong, but I would bet that there is an agenda for all who post here. My agenda is…what if someone who is innocent, gets judged by people who really don't know the facts and is assumed guilty? Does that seem fair? I think not.
You do receive money from the state. Upon finalizing an adoption — there is something called an adoption subsidy which legal agreement that sets up monthly payments.
http://www.state.il.us/dcfs/adoption/index.shtml
DCFS provides and funds a variety of financial and non-financial benefits after adoption or guardianship, including subsidies for families who adopt waiting children or become guardians of children in DCFS care. Subsidy agreements are entered into prior to court finalization of adoptions or approval of guardianships and begin after the adoptions (adoption assistance agreements) or guardianships (subsidized guardianship agreements) are finalized.
Subsidies may include any or all of the following:
*Ongoing monthly payments equal to what the child's foster care payment was, or would have been.
*Medicaid card to cover medical expenses not covered by family insurance or other public resources.
*Counseling services for the family and child, if needed.
*Therapeutic day care.
*Reimbursement for costs associated with the adoption or guardianship, such as attorney fees and court costs, with a maximum reimbursement for non-recurring expenses of $1,500 for adoption and $500 for guardianship.
http://www.state.il.us/dcfs/adoption/index.shtml
One of the biggest issues that needs reform in the foster care system is postplacement monitoring after adopting from foster care. There is NO monitoring whatsoever yet all foster-to-adopt parents receive $ from the state they adopted from EVEN IF they MOVE to another state. Obviously there are no human resources to track these kids.
We have 2 horrible cases in our archives from foster-to-adopt parents that moved and were under the radar. One is the Austin and Edward Bryant case http://reformtalk.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-could-you-hall-of-shame_4626.html These children have been MISSING and presumed dead for years. Their foster parents finally were convicted of defrauding the government recently.
The other case involves abuse and the is the Kluth case-jury trial next week http://reformtalk.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-could-you-hall-of-shame_24.html
The person that thinks that people who have been reporting on this blog are evil regarding the Gaskill
case is equating outrage with evil as people have felt compelled posting their own individual experiences with this family because after the arrest happened recalled
their interaction with this family over periods of time, led them to be so
unsettled in the way the girls were treated ,and so much so that many had to
severe ties with the family.
People are not evil for revealing their relationships and experiences that
they have shared, as adding it all together it does not take a genius to realize
that there was something off and not right with the parenting of these girls.
Many people have become active in their support of the girls in many ways,
including showing up in court on their behalf, and sharing how this family
were not the people they wanted everyone to believe, and of course the
treatment of the girls that troubled them as well as their disgust with
DCFS for failing to pick up on the unhappiness of the girls, and not following
up and supervising;including unannounced visits that might have been
a game changer for these two girls being placed in a different home.
If evil is what people perceive that have supported the girls based
on what they witnessed and know to be true, as well as the baffling
behavior that Mary acted out over the years as well as her husband
on many occasions belittling Amber and rendering her an "idiot"
and other disrespectful comments, makes everyone evil that have
felt they needed to express real facts that make this a home that
many believe could have really been a home dysfunctional enough
for what the girls have charged the defendant with, and the girls
gave enough supporting evidence that caused his arrest and
is on trial for. Yes, he is INNOCENT until proven GUILTY, but the
fact that people have come forward with supporting the girls
does not as already stated make them
evil, it makes them concerned citizens
that feel compelled to express their experiences; that put together
can shed light on the way the girls were treated and the home
not being what many people believed it to be.
There are times in life you need to help and share what you know
as in this case as the girls really are on their own and need
people to come forward to help back up what they no doubt
have had to share about their childhood.
If the people that think this blog is truly evil for supporting the girls,
and not the Gaskills, by sharing what they believed the girls sufferd,
sheds light on how the girls were treated unfairly and verbally abusive
then DO NOT READ THE ENTRIES AND THEN WHINE ABOUT HOW
PEOPLE COULD POSSIBLY SHARE THEIR UNFORTUNATE EXPERIENCES WITH THE
GAKILLS ARE EVIL, BY ALL MEANS, THEN SHARE ALL THE TIMES THE GIRLS BEHAVED
INAPPROPRIATELY, LIED THROUGH THEIR TEETH AND WERE SO MENTALLY
UNSTABLE THAT THEY SHOULD NOT EVEN BE WALKING AROUND ON THE STREETS
AND ATTENDING COLLEGE AS WELL.
WE WILL BE WAITING.
If Mr. Gaskill is proved to be innocent,
people and the adminstrator of this forum
will be happy that justice is served,
just as if he was found guilty.
The forum is and has been about experiences
that people have had, witnessed,heard,
seen first hand for themselves what they
know as true facts that are not consistent
with any one that is a parent. In this case,
reports are about both of these parents as wll as individually.The reports are negative as negative
behavior was unfortunately imposed unfairly on
the two girls. Disparaging words about the girls
heard often at different times by different people
has not helped people believe this was a happy
home for the girls either, and put together does
lead to the question of could all this add up and
possibly lead to the abuse that the girls charged
the accused with? Everyone knows that it will take
the legal system to work at answering to Innocence
or Guilt. People do want justice to be served;and
the facts that people reported about how the girls
were treated in the home as well as in public,
are not made up or fabricated. People no doubt
have felt a need to come forward as perhaps this
information is valuable in making sure that facts
the girls have had to share about their childhood
can be backed up by other people to prove they
are not lying if they told authorities the same
exact things. The girls have been portrayed by
their former family as liars so people just want
the record straight that if they had to discuss
their childhood there are plenty of people that
can back that up. As for the charges, only the
girls and the accused know the truth and the untruth.
Many have stated they believe the girls are not lying
because to make all of this public the girls knew
their former family would trash them anyway they
could, and unfortunately many in the community
were and have been treated unkind by MG; and that
is why their unforunate experiences with MG have
come out. Is this fair or unfair to MG?
The only answer is that because this case has
elements that are not flattering to her or her
husband in regard to what people experienced
with them as fst parents and the experiences
of interactions with MG in the community;
people have given examples as stated above,
and because this case has become high profile
in and outside of the River Forest community,
it was bound to come out as the case set
off feelings that people have had and felt
a need to share if it helps give a more
detailed picture of what the girls went
through and what they are up against.
Perhaps, if the former family did not go around after
the allegations became public bashing and trashing
the two girls so viciously, people would not
have become so determined to defend the girls that many have known either when they were younger or in their older
teen years in high school.
Everyone wants a fair trial,This is a hardship for
everyone involved. No matter what happens no one
is a winner and no one is a loser. All involved have and
are paying a high cost for a case that everyone wishes was not
happening; but unfortunately it is. It really is
sad on every level and DCFS needs to take responsibility
for their part in all of this no matter the outcome.
I hope DCFS is taken to task as they were in charge
of the girls and this families interaction to begin
with.
To WOW there is so much hate on these posts; and people
have an genda of some kind…the only agenda is that
two girls have suffered in their former home,
examples given throughout the forum. People just
want to support the girls experiences growing up
that people witnessed and feel they need to come forward
as the girls need people that witnessed their not
ao happy childhood in their former home.
The hate that you think is on this forum you have
mistaken for disgust and even outrage on the parenting
of the girls as well as DCFS and their total lack
of supervision on an on going basis, as well as not
seeing what people saw as a dysfunctional home
with complex due to the personalities of the
parents in the home. As far as the things Mary did
that caused problems for some in the community has
come out as explaining that her behavior was puzzling
to adults many times so therfore it stands to reason
that her behavior parenting the girls was puzzling
and disturbing that had experiences with MG socially
and some publicly. Some examples are harsh, but harsh
unfortunately was the way MG dealt with many people
so the examples are not sugar coated, they are
recollections of someone that was difficult and
hard to deal with with even the most trivial matters.
Mary is not being judged. Her behavior is just being
linked to her also puzzling and harsh treatment of the
two girls in comparison to how she parented her bio
children. Mary is not the one on trial. Her behavior
could have contributed to a home where perhaps the
abuse alleged could or might have taken place,
The legal system will have to look at the family
life as a whole, but what will find guilt or innocence
is the credibility of the evidence or non credibility
of the evidence. No one can really predict what
the outcome of this case will be. The only thing
that people can speculate on is their experiences
with this family, and some of the unkind behavior
Mary exhibited dealing with people on a personal
level often not making sense and sometimes just
puzzling and disturbing at the same time.
The word hate is being mixed up with the word:
Concern. The reasons can be read from the examples,
as the heart of this case is really CONCERN for
the girls being treated fairly and not trashed
by their former family and their friends.
People just want the girls to be on even footing
with the accused, which means not labeling them
mentally disturbed, liars, and worse.
This is a heart wrenching case as many people knew
these girls one way or another and feel they need to
stand up for negative things they witnessed; and the
horrible things the family as said about them since
the allegations became public.
Hope this clears up your perception of hate as apposed
to the very strong CONCERN thay people feel they
need to express.
The girls would know if they were adopted or not as they would have been in on the process if they were old enough. Does someone feel comforable enough to just ask them. These girls are not vicious in any way and I'm sure wouldn't mind answering that question.
The alleged abuse that the accused is standing trial
for took place for almost half their lives; or maybe
longer. It stands to reason that the girls were
abused while being fst.children; and if they were
indeed adopted it is more than likely they were
abused as adopted children as well.
Someone wrote on this blog that they believed
only Misty was adopted and was told that they
would never adopt Amber ( go back and read the entry
to view what he said) I can't even repeat the
horribly mean thing he said about not adopting Amber.
If the court along with DCFS allowed only one sister
to be adopted and not the other, I find that questionable
and despicable as well as these two girls are sisters,
and I would think the adoption of one and not the
other would not be allowed. If it was allowed, it
was terribly insulting to Amber and if true Amber
than further suffered more indignity that they
heaped on her her entire life. (she was not even
a bridesmaid as Misty was when the older bio girl
was married) Both girls were treated unfairly growing
up, but Amber was treated without question even
worse, suffering horrible things said about her
in her presence that was cruel and horrible
many times. (It makes you wonder what she had
to endure in the privacy of the home)
Amber's abuse verbally and mentally really stands
on its' own as WHY the Gaskills have been vilified
by many on this blog that witnessed the abuse
and were sickened by it. Amber is a sweet kind girl
but as sufferd so emotionally that she developed
a speech impediment that the Gsaskills did not
insist or go out of their way to make sure she
was given the help that she needed other than what the
school district provided. If Misty was adoplted and
not Amber, I can not imagine how worthless Amber
was made to feel and suffer. I really hope that is
not what happened, but left to their own devices
I totally see how cruel the Gaskills could be if
they were allowed to adopt Misty and not Amber.
Note to TRUE BLOOD: If you were both adopted I'm sure
you will take legal action to take back your family
name when you are able (not sure if you have been advised
to wait until the trial is over. Only you two girls
and the Gaskills know the truth.In any other NORMAL
loving home the TWO of you (YOU ARE SISTERS NO LESS!)
would have been adopted together, I really hope the
Gaskills have been lying(who knows the truth of anything they say) as then at least you will be saved the trouble
of legally freeing yourself from a name that is totally
meaningless as we all know they never made the two
of you a real part of the family which is shameful
whether you were adopted or not.
You girls are so strong and AMAZING for after everything
you endured most of your lives you both do not have
one UNKIND bone in your body. Stay strong and remember
many of us who have known the two of you at some or
all of your lives support and want you both to have
a happy life filled with love that you both deserve
being reunited with your family and relatives.
One of your MANY SUPPORTERS
Dear Rally:
I am writing this email on behalf of the victims' and their family. In fact, I am family to the younger sister of these beautiful young, courageous women, Mistee and Amber. I am the Aunt of the younger sister who has been removed from the Gaskills home and Thank God is still not returned to this home as other children have. These girls were placed in this home after a terrible tragedy in their life – the loss of their father and a break down of their mother. There was no abuse going on in that family prior to the removal of the five (5) children of these parents. The mother, after the death of her spouse and the taking of her five children went into a depression and then went to treatment, got a job and a townhouse and began to attempt to rebuild her and her children's lives. Her three boys were sent to a different home and the girls were placed with the Gaskills. Mary Gaskill befriended the mother as a "Christian" woman who only wanted the best for the girls. When the mother worked hard to get her boys back as they were placed in visibly neglectful and abusive homes, Mary stood by telling the mother don't worry the girls are fine her they can stay with us as long as they need to. All the while attempting to convince the mother that she could not possibly take care of five children on her own and planning to have the mother agree to allow adopted of Mistee and Amber. When the mother got visitation with her boys, they were supervised at first through DCFS and she saw the boys were always in old tattered clothes, hair not washed or combed, dirty fingernails, etc. She mentioned this to the DCFS worker on several occasions to no avail, until one day at 2 a.m. she received a phone call from DCFS that the boys were being removed from that home. This type of situation happened on at least two occasions for the boys and ultimately they were going to split the boys up. That is when the mother began a strenuous campaign to get the boys returned ASAP. Conversely, when the mother had visitation with her girls, they were always dressed in beautiful clothes (passed from Mary's biological children) neat, clean and always attending church or church functions. From the outside appearances all seemed to be good for the girls and bad for the boys, two of whom are older than the girls and one who is in between in age. The girls were not allowed to spend time alone with the mother and therefore could not verbalize to her that Mary Gaskill was derogatory about their family, emotionally attacking their lineage and their self-esteem. All the while Mary would be encouraging the mother, I'm so proud of you, your doing so good. But how can you afford to take care of five (5) children and work? In fact, the mother worked hard to continue with therapy and raise her boys, while working nights as a forklift operator and/or dock supervisor. It was not easy, and she was being "dupped" by Mary Gaskill. My niece, the girls sister has suffered the same kind of emotional abuse and family bashing from Mary Gaskill. There is no way that any child should be returned to Mary Gaskill's care. She does not treat the children who she adopts or fosters with the same care that she treats her biological children and further, the biological children also follow "mom's example" and emotionally abuse the other children as well. When clothes are past down, statements like "those were my clothes first, if it weren't for me and my family you would have nothing." It hurts me to hear that these girls suffered this abuse on a daily basis as well as the abuse from Rob Gaskill.
I want to thank all of the ANONYMOUS bloggers who are in support of my step-nieces. I only recently found out about this, how sad the biological family is the last to know. The mother was aware of this for sometime, but again is very depressed that the system has failed her and her family once again. She has had a long time battle with the system and often has felt victimized by the DCFS system. She feels that everyone of her kids has been victimized by the DCFS system and has suffered irreparable harm that they did not and would have suffered had DCFS not removed them from her care, but provided her with assistance such as they provide to these foster families to help her rebuild her life after the loss of her husband. It was not these children's faults that they suffered a tragedy liking losing their father and then having to be removed from their mother. They were young innocent children who loved their parents deeply and whose parents loved and adored them.
I worked in the juvenile justice system in 1993 in the Public Defenders office, the attorneys who are appointed to help the parents. I thought this was an area of law that I might like to work in – what better way to be of service in the world than to be a part of helping restore struggling families be reunited and strengthened? Unfortunately, during my tenure there, I discovered that even though that is what the system was supposed to be doing, in practice they are all working independently focusing on the micro (their job) rather than the macro (their mission) to restore the family. DCFS workers make judgments of the biological parents as "being bad parents" before even hearing their stories. The minute they remove the child is not when the investigation is done, they investigate after removing the child. By that time, they have evaluated the living arrangements of a parents home, evaluated and questioned kids, sometimes neighbors or the report caller. DCFS has already written a report on these things prior to talking with the parents – and made their judgments. At that point, when the parent comes in, the caseworker is already biased against the parent and does give that parents stories much credibility. This is the situation that these young girls mother found herself in.
Dear TJNEWS, I am so glad you were able to find this forum
and read for yourself ( although painful
I'm sure) all the sincere and insightful entries written in
unwavering support of Mistee and Amber. People that have
shared their individual negative and uncomfortable experiences
that many personally and collectivly witnessed unfair
and unwarranted abusive mistreatment of the girls over the
years by the Gaskill family. The many examples given are no
doubt heartbreaking for the girls mom and relatives like
yourselves; as you have stated the BIOLOGICAL FAMILY tragically all to often due to the complete FAILURE and
INCOMPETENCY of DCFS, as in this case with the girls, are
the LAST TO KNOW. DCFS'S failed the girls on every level;
from the time of placement and throughout their lives.
If DCFS was truly competent and supervising the Gaskill
home with unannounced visits; as well as giving the girls
opportunities to speak privately with caseworkers as well
as their own mom, the girls would have been spared the
senseless suffering they were made to endure living with
a so called "family" that MG reasured the girls mother
that the girls were "FINE" and not to worry about them.
.What would MG and her precious family do
without the INCOME from the state each month do without
that money coming in each month? MG and her selfish
self and mind-set went to work on trying to convince the girls mom to allow the girls to be legally adopted.MG like the
cunning and convincinig liar that she is, more than likely
listed convincing reasons why the adoption would be a good idea
as she could give the girls so much more and no doubt
referenced the "PERFECT" meetings with the girls and their
mom with the "PERFECT" outfits and that the girls were
thriving and so "LUCKY" to be growing up in such a "PERFECT"
Christian "Loving" home; always attending church and church
activities. ) and every lie Mary deviously made up
to plead her case as to why it would be so much "BETTER"
for the girls and not DISRUPT their "PERFECT " lives. Sadly, everything MG told
the girls mom was a total lie as well as the "Perfect"
outwardly appearances of the girls on their visits with
their mom. It really is sickening; but sadly the
Gaskill family is not nor have ever been the people they wanted
their community and especially their church community to
believe who they really are.DCFS needs to take responsibility
for their lack of stringent supervision and lack of protection
of the girls having to live in the "PERFECT" home with the
"PERFECT" family in a "PERFECT" house on a "PERFECT" block
with a "PERFECT WHITE PICKET FENCE" with a path paved in
gold that really does not EXSIST except in the "PERFECT"
mind of MG and entire family; and so called Christian
friends that have not yet faced reality and woken up from
their sleep from what has been nothing but a "PERFECT"
NIGHTMARE.
Thank God you are all
reunited and…..
Happy Mother's Day MOM!
Is there any concern out there that the two girls came together to report this so many years later? How is that kept a secret? I assume that no friends, teachers, doctors, case workers or other children in the house were never told. Was there any acting out sexually with the two girls after the alleged abuse. It's obvious that 99% of all who post here support the claims made by the two girls. Does any of the above make you wonder?
Anonymous May 10: First, it is a free country and people can choose to support anyone they wish or stay out of it. People also have the right to disagree.
Second, you are trying to convey a lot of false premises by saying that they reported this information late and together. Perhaps you just are not aware of the studies and statistics on child sex abuse. The best fact sheet is a 19 page pdf http://www.childabusesolutions.com/child_sexual_abuse_fact_sheet.pdf
So let me address each of your questions since many will not want to read 19 pages.Your first question is about reporting this information years later and together. The fact sheet that is sourced with real studies says that delaying the reporting is common and that the AVERAGE time between cessation of child abuse and reporting is 12 YEARS. So, as for delay in reporting, this case could be classified as a quick report.It also states that 42% of women did not disclose their abuse until the survey which indicates that this is not a topic that people like discussing. It also states that 85.3% to 97% of perpetrators are by an adult that the child knows. So, that is another reason why support is high for the alleged victims in this case. This case is getting its day in court and everyone here will abide by whatever ruling that comes down.
Next you assume that others did not know. I don't know where you are getting that from. Many commenters here who know them felt something was not right. Again I point back to the statistic that 42% of women don't disclose the abuse unless asked.
You last question was about sexually acting out.There are short and long term psychological, behavioral and physical problems that CAN occur but not everyone who was sexually abused sexually acts out.
Page 6 of the pdf, question 16 asks if children maliciously fabricate sex abuse allegations. Studies show that 0-2% of the time this happens.Anything is possible anytime and this case may fall into that category. That is why we have a court system in this country. He will get his day in court.
Signs of child sex abuse trauma can be found at http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/workers/17/44
It most often involves self esteem, which is another reason why those that know them want to be in court to support.
Hello~ Does anyone know how manipulated, frightened and literaly
paraylized from the sheer terror of what these girls
had to live with in a household that family dynamics
were very dysfunctional and complicated; as the enviornment was abusive and the chief in charge no doubt terrifyied these girls their entire life while living in that house. These girls came forward because they were FINALLY FREE
of this prison, and reclaimed their life; exposing the horrible
abuse they suffered and no doubt articulated what their horrible
childhood was like (which people can attest to and have and will continue to write to the state attorney office)that support
what no doubt they described BEFORE this forum even exsisted.
Why don't you unintelligent people read about what RALLY
has posted that can not be disputed and is well researched
and documented which I'm sure the prosecution attorneys know all too well as tragically they have had other RGS to prosecute
when abused youg adults or older adults finally come forward
to reclaim their life, face the accused, seek justice and
finally take back the self esteem that was taken away from them;
as it is very healing realizing it was never about you being
a worthless human being, and not your fault in any way.
Then and only then can you see clearly who is the worthless
human being is and reclaim your life and self esteem and
begin liking and even loving yourself
and you will be able to live a healthy life trusting
and being able to give love to others and have healthy
relatioships that become possible because you valued
yourself and bravely came forward facing the person that
once had power over you and turning the tables and realize
finally you are the one that has the power that you never
had and you no longer a victim and you are finally FREE.
Dear, TRUE BLOOD and FAMILY,
I would like to take this time to wish
your mom (who is nothing like the Gaskills said
her) a VERY HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY. Mom of the girls,
I read the two entries so well articulated by your
sister-inlaw (I am assuming as she is the aunt of
your other beautiful daughter) and I was so moved
as you had the unfortunate experiences of actually
speaking with Mary when you were seriously wanting
to be reunited with your beautiful daughters;
as you were able to do after what obviously
was another living nightmare for you thanks to
DCFS and their total broken system that would rather
pay negligent and abusive parents (until something
really horrible happens, like when DCFS called you
at 2am in the morning and telling you they were
removing your boys from the abusive and negligent
home and seperating them as well. Thank God you
were the MOMMA GRIZZLY BEAR and fought I'm sure
a hard fought campaign and your dear boys are
where they belong, with a mother without any
help, made a life overcoming so many severe losses
in your life; as circumstances of losing your
huband with little children that you were so
distraught and depressed that you needed time
to heal fully so you could support them and be
reunited with all of them and be the loving family
that you so desperately wanted and God bless you
worked very hard to achieve.
There are no words to describe how being reunited
with your precious children must feel;
I am so emotional thinking about all of you as
every mother knows ( even though we were not in your
shoes) just how much you love your children,
and I'm sure you will have the most joyous MOTHERS
DAY EVER. GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU IN HIS CARE
To the person that asked if the girls acted out sexually?
Are you kidding?
Are you totally in the dark about the strict rules the
girls had to abide just to stay in good graces from MGS
verbal as well as punative punishment ( such as the girls
had to clean bathrooms scrub toilets, help with the other
fst children an on and on and on?
These girls could not snezze without MG knowing about it;
and the question really is quite insulting and ignorant
of facts that children that have been abuse are so fragile
as they are carrying around a burden that if anything
they will have to overcome with professional help to
(when they meet Mr. Right) trust, and feel really loved
and realize finally that they need to close that book
in their life and put it so high out of reach.
Like any emotional trauma (even reciving professional help)
like any other tramatic experience in one's life it will
open up the wound a bit; but they will know how to get it out
of their mind and not let the trauma victimize them once again.
None of this is going to happen overnight; and DCFS better
provide professional psychological services by well qualified
psycholgists that have treated these traumas that victims
fom abuse or rape have to learn how to let go and develop'
coping skills to help themselves if and when that wound
opens especially in the first few years.
Do you still want the question answered about these emotionally
and psychological wounded girls "ACTING OUT" sexually in
any way shape or form? Also,it is clear that you do not
know these girls at all, because if you did you would not
have shown how uneducated you are in tha area of child
psychology and the very fragile nature of children that
are sexually abused. Here is a tip for you, go to the
library and do some reading in child psych as ell as
sexual abuse of children as in this case suffered that
and more in a house that they should have been removed
and returned to their birth mother a lon g time ago.
When you do some extensive reading then see if you need
to ask such a ridicoulos and derogatory question about
two girls that suffered something that you can not
comprehend and that if it happened in your family you
would be outraged at someone that is as ignorant as you.
Hello –
Thanks for the moderation and education on this thread. I found the information you provided about sex abuse very interesting especially “the fact sheet that is sourced with real studies says that delaying the reporting is common and that the AVERAGE time between cessation of child abuse and reporting is 12 YEARS.”
Just wanted to thank you for this site and your efforts to bring attention to problems in the Child Welfare World.
Is there a reason there is no activity here or am I not accessing the website correctly.
You are accessing it correctly. Perhaps that there is no new information to share. Names and emails do not need to be shared to post
TJNEWS, I don’t think it’s right to publicly bash the biological children. I don’t agree that it’s okay for comments like “if it weren’t for me, you wouldn’t have anything” to be made, but in the end siblings say things that are terrible at times and I’m sure those comments have been wildly exaggerated into something more than normal sibling fights. Cut the kids a break. You complain about your step-nieces being in a bad situation, so don’t put the other children in a bad situation by putting them down either. It’s not their fault that they were given things in their life that their siblings may or may not have been given (if that is the case). It certainly isn’t right, but it’s not their fault either. They most likely didn’t know any better. They are good people from the bottom of their hearts. I don’t know about Mary, but I know that’s true for her children. And we all have our flaws and moments of acting out of line and saying things that we shouldn’t. I’m sure everyone is guilty of that, including the victims. But this whole case is not about the relationship of the siblings, it’s about the parents (or parent, Rob, in particular).
Dear NAME and other bloggers
I dont exactly know how my message was perceived as bashing the biological children. Children follow what their parents do a majority, of of the time. For example “swearing”, if parents use foul language at home on a regular basis, chances are the children will also swear habitually. So I was mentioned things that were said by the biological kids as an extension of MGS emotional abuse towards the girls.
By the way, does anyone know that MGS has had 4 new children placed in her care? Also the girls were NEVER adopted but forced to use the Gaskill name in school, etc. Seems there is something illegal about that! MGS was also admonished in court by DCFS for her statements about the biological family to my neice in 2010. Its a matter of record that she bashed the girls family and tried to destroy the girls relationship with their biological family also. I have not heard personally on my email from any annonymous’ who can expound upon MGS treatment of the girls. Please contact me directly so that there can be no reprecussion toward you by MGS. As I state d earlier, I would like to get the girls proper representation. My e-mail is dreamingwolf711@juno.com. Thanks for supporting MISTEE and AMBER!
By the way RALLY when is the June courtdate for RGS? All supporters of the girls would like to know.
The next court date that was published is a status hearing on June 19 at 930AM. I do not have access to the actual records to confirm that the date is still intact, unfortunately.
Is there a way – we can confirm if the agency is still placing children in the Gaskill home.
I know the 3 adopted were returned; but would it be possbile that 4 more children were place as stated by TjNew?
Why would an agency ever place 7 unrelated siblings in one home? And with a single parent on top of that!
How do we find out what happened in court today or when the trial begins?
Reporter, Casey Cora advises that the June 19 hearing was continued until July 2, and that he will be there. You can keep up with Casey at oakpark.patch.com.
Is anyone able to comment on what occurred at the status hearing 19Jun?
We also would love to know as records are not searchable for this county in Illinois. It would not surprise me if there were many delays in this case.
http://oakpark.patch.com/articles/another-status-hearing-set-for-robert-gaskill
I think the defense will drag this out as long as possible, in hopes that the angry public will cool off and forget about it.
Thanks for keeping vigilant! I was posting our update 9 with this information as you were posting the comment. I am glad that they are publishing the next hearing date as I am sure most people who support the girls were unaware of the July 2 status hearing and that is why there was the support of Robert.
The girls will never forget what happened to them. Their families will not forget what they went through with the Gaskill family. The public may cool off or lose interest as this may end up taking a long time to see justice served, but I personally vowed to see this through all the way to the end and that is what I am going to do. The girls need continued support they have a long road ahead of them and hopefully their will be support for their families also. The next court date is set for Aug. 29th. Please be there for them I know it meant alot to them as I was able to talk breifly with them after the last time they were in court.
Mrs. F. N.
Growing up in Arizona our next door neighbor must have fostered 18 to 20 foster children over the years. All of them teenage boys. Once I asked the old man why he only fostered boys.
He told me that it wasn’t worth the trouble to foster teenage girls. “One accusation of inappropriate behavior, no matter how ridiculous, and I will lose everything.”
I used to think he was just kind of paranoid. Now I see he is wiser than I ever imagined.
I’m a healthcare provider and my worst nightmare would be having to face down a false accusation.
Joe, I do not know what your neighbor’s story has to do with anything in this case. These 2 girls have alleged 13 YEARS of abuse (that would mean it started when they were ages 3 and 5)That is not “one accusation.” He didn’t start fostering them when they were teens. He HAS been indicted by a grand jury who heard evidence that must have met a threshold. Please read all of the comments and the backstory on this man. Community members are saying that they still had a sibling in the home that they were worried about, supposedly one of the two foster children removed from the home after the arrest.
so false accusations could only come from “female” foster children?
It would be terrible, terrible if these were false accusations against Gaskill, but it appears there was enough evidence for the grand jury to indict and also let’s not forget that he admitted to guilt when initially charged.
Dear Joe:
I know that false accusations could be devestating, however, it would be a terrible tragedy to not believe a child over a grown human being who should know better. Children do not have the capacity to be that vicious without cause. Just look at the accusations and then guilty verdict of Mr. Sandusky, who claimed his innocence until the end. Look at his victims, grown men who were unable to cope with or maybe even internalize what happened to them under the care of a program designed to assist them have “fuller richer lives” than their parents could. When these things happen to children, they may be so young that they do not “know the wrongful actions of adults taking care of them”. These girls were so young when they were placed in the care of the Gaskills, I don’t believe they knew it was something terrible being thrust upon them. Psychologically, it takes years for the realization and then the trauma begins to overwhelm them after they realized this was so wrong. This is true of all children, boys and girls who are sexually molested at a young age not just Mistee and Amber. As a health care provider, you must have been counseled to have a nurse or assistant in the room when examining teenage girls for their protection and yours. Its seems now we should have the same protections for teenage boys!
when is next court date?
August 29th. in Maybrook 9:00 a.m. I believe is the correct time
I don’t see where in any of the articles it says he confessed. It says the cop “says” he confessed but it DOES NOT say they have any written or audio proof. Now I’m no lawyer but I am a smart person who knows cops can and will lie to get you to say things. Where is the proof he confessed? You cannot just assume someone is guilty before being proven guilty! If anything I’ve seen how corrupt the justice system is and most times I’ve witnessed people who want to win a case more than they want to get to the truth. I can only comment based on the articles you posted, but if this man isn’t guilty the damage it is doing to his name and family is very apparent here. I would like to see people treated fairly until proven they are not guilty. I used to think in this country it was innocent until proven guilty but lately I have not seen this at all.
Anonymous, the articles do not disclose all of the evidence for *obvious* reasons, but yes the cop has testified under oath that there was a confession. A grand jury indicted him. That is a big deal. You are a “smart” person that “knows” that cops lie? Great general statement there! What does that have to do with this particular case? I would like adoptees and foster children and everyone else for that matter NOT to be abused. The legal process is still ongoing. We will update this case with whatever happens. Why don’t you want the victims treated fairly? Is it “fair” to call them liars? Because that is what you are saying. If it didn’t happen, then they are liars. You seem to have no problem saying that THEY are guilty of lying. Why is that? Do you have any understanding of sexual abuse?
I assume if the grand jury indicted him it is based on the word of the cop. THE WORD. I guess we will have to wait until the trail to see if he pleads guilty or not. I just think it’s odd that they have no mention of a written or audio statement. I just think it’s wrong to judge someone before they’ve been proven guilty. A cops word in my opinion is not enough. No one is perfect. Things like this are what make many people I know turned off from adopting or fostering children. I just think rushing to judgement in these types of cases has made even me never want to take in foster children which all my life I thought I might do one day. I know we have to take these allegations seriously but people can’t risk it. Also in my opinion a guilty person wouldn’t just willing go down to the police station with cops. That part seemed odd too.
Anonymous, why do you assume that there is no other evidence? Wrong to judge someone? We are not judges or the jury. We are discussing the case. This “wrong to judge someone” is the common excuse that people give when they can’t think of anything else to say.We have plenty of cases in which a “guilty person” goes willing to the station with cops. Not odd at all. He is a huge ego. You have not taken that into account in your assumptions.
I just came across this. But one thing I noticed in reading other cases like Jerry Sandusky or the catholic priests is that once someone came forward, more victims came forward. It says in an article this family had many foster children. I assume they interviewed them and there were no other children who saw anything during that time? If there were that many then there would have been many case workers at the house. Did they see nothing? If something did happen this looks more like the Jaycee Dugard case and maybe the state should be responsible for not doing anything earlier. Why did no one else from all the other children see anything? In my house if anything like that had happened to one of my siblings we’d have known. There was no time that you could really be alone for very long. Just something to think about.
Anonymous, sometimes that is the case and sometimes only a few children are abused in that way. We have seen cases turn out both ways. IN this case, his wife did work so that did leave gaps of time where she was not in the home. We hope that they looked at the other children that were fostered. It has not been reported one way or the other.
I know for a fact that other foster children formerly in the care of the Gaskills have NOT been contacted, notified or interviewed by DCFS regarding this case. It doesn’t seem that DCFS is looking to be certain that there are no other victims.
Even if there are no other victims in this case does anyone know if any of the Gaskill family still have any of the children in their care? I thought I read somewhere that the biological brother has taken some of the children into his home. Guilty or not I personally feel that none of the Gaskills should be allowed to care for any children untill this is settled. Even then after reading all of the information about Mary Gaskill she should never be allowed to take care of any children.
There is a cvourt date on Oct. 2nd. If want to show your support for the girls the best way to do that right now is to be there for them. The case is set for 9:a.m. Thank You Rally for continually posting what is happening at these court dates.
Thank you for reminding everyone about the court date. Please local readers, show your support at court!
What happened at the October 2nd status hearing?
Readers, were any of you there? There was no media coverage, so I am guessing that nothing has changed and the case is moving forward.
Finally an update:
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/11-06-2012/Judge_says_Gaskill_won't_be_present_at_final_deposition
Next date 19Dec2012
Finally an update:
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/11-06-2012/Judge_says_Gaskill_won't_be_present_at_final_deposition
Yes we have that added to the update. I was surprised to read that he was present in 4 out of 5 depositions. How awful for the girls.
Yes I agree with yiou Rally. Whatever happened to victims rights. It seems so unfair that the girls should have to face him again. I pray for them to keep up the strength to go on and see justice served.
Does anyone know what happened at the Dec 19th Status hearing?
No details were published about the December 19 hearing, but he had another one this week. Next hearing February 22. Check out our latest update
I am sorry but I don’t agree, I don’t feel Mr. Gaskill is being harassed. I for one am glad they are checking up and making sure he is where he should be:
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/1-15-2013/Gaskill's-lawyer-says-sheriff's-visits-are-harassing/
Latest Gaskill article:
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/2-26-2013/Gaskill-trial-waits-on-subpoena-in-River-Forest/
These delay tactics by the Defense are not unexpected. However much the frequency of comments has decreased, we all still remember and will come forward in force when the time is right.What in the world are they fighting for? surely not the restoration of his ‘good name’ LOL
I agree with you. He has all of his followers that show up with him for every court date but I hope when the time comes the victims will have more people supportting them then just the few that are with them on these court dates. I’m proud of the girls for continuing to face them every month. The next court date is April 11th and I hope the judge doesn’t modify his bond again. It seems like she continues to grant him favors. It just isn’t right. Does she think about how the girls may feel about that?
Any idea of what happened at the April 11th court date? I can’t find any records of anything that happens in court.
Just another continuance. The judge did not have time to look over the papers that were submitted to her about the officers records. The nest court date is tommorrow May 1st.
Thanks for the update!
The judge did not allow his attorney to view the personal records of the officers involved in this case. The next court date is set for june 24th. Can anyone find any updates in the newspapers regarding this matter?
Thank you for letting us know. I will update the post with this information. I am very angry that the media does not seem to want to cover this important case.
Is there any way to get the media involved? He was once considered an important person. Are people not still interested in what is happening any more to either the victims or him?
FYI, for those following the case: The Wednesday Journal is reporting a judge has signed an order allowing Gaskill expanded visitation rights. His next court date is Sept. 30. More here: http://oakpark.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/robert-gaskill-former-newspaper-publisher-foster-parent-accused-of-sexual-abuse-molestation-gets-child-visitation-rights-in-cook-county-court-river-forest-oak-park
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/8-19-2013/Gaskill-wins-expanded-child-visitation-rights/?utm_source=EmailShare&utm_medium=EmailShare&utm_campaign=EmailShare
Thanks for sharing. I will add to the post!
The Gaskills have sold their home on Ashland and now live at 25 Franklin, RF. The home, though small, was listed as having 8 bedrooms. enuff said!
Nice job of publishing someones address… you all are a bunch of sick individuals.
The individual who is sick is the one who created this mess. He is the one who needs help.
Does anyone know of any new developments?
Here we are 1 year later and nothing new has happened in this case, except for the fact that he was granted permission to go on a family vacation in December to Florida. More favors being granted to him. Next court date is set for January 28, 2016.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the update. Please post any developments. Lot of people trying to stay informed on the case.
Wondering what si going on here. Se him with kids, working in a pharmacy on Lake, often with his family including the 3 foster kids they carried out open adoption….so continuing to receive money. Have been told he was exonerated but needs to live in Oak Park on Marion until trial…but that he no longer needs to wear his ankle monitor. What is up?
I have been looking for updates. I can’t find any. Sorry.
So creepy that an individual can abuse 2 girls and be scot free
Robert Gaskill was Acquitted in February 2017!
Robert Gaskill has a 2nd 25-count indictment against him. He goes to court on August 21,2017
I have been following this closely for years. Mary Gaskill (Rob’s wife) is using an alias, Mary Case, and is currently working at The Village Church of Oak Park.
After reading some of the comments in here, and the problems with the two churches in the past, I was wondering why this church would bring her on staff. After looking into it further, her son-in-law is the youth pastor.
https://villagechurchoakpark.com/who-we-are