Wednesday Weirdness-Placement Debacle in Netherlands UPDATED

By on 3-20-2013 in Foster Care Stories, Netherlands, Turkey, Wednesday Weirdness

Wednesday Weirdness-Placement Debacle in Netherlands UPDATED

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“A lesbian couple and their nine-year-old foster child have gone into hiding because of the row in Turkey about Muslim children being cared for by gay or Christian couples.

The couple have looked after Yunus since he was five months old but his mother has long campaigned for his return. Last week she made an emotional television appeal, leading to widespread debate in Turkey itself.

Next week, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan will visit the Netherlands and some expect him to raise the fostering issue.

A Turkish parliamentary commission is currently researching the fostering of Muslim children by gay or Christian couples, which they say will lead to them becoming estranged from their cultural background.

School

Child social services in The Hague say they are extremely concerned about the ongoing debate. ‘The situation means Yunus cannot go to school,’ one official told Nos television.

No direct threats have been made but the family have now been moved to a different address, officials say.

The two mothers have done a fantastic job, one told the Volkskrant. ‘They have explored his ethnic background, visited Turkey and are learning Turkish. But this witch hunt means they are continually being questioned, at school, in the street, in the bakers,’ a spokeswoman said.

Family

The boy’s natural parents took their two other children to family in Turkey to avoid them being fostered by the same couple, the Volkskrant reported. This led to the parents spending a short time in prison for kidnapping, the paper said.

It is not clear from the media coverage why the children were taken into care.”

Lesbian couple go into hiding with Turkish foster child

[Dutch News 3/15/13]

 

 

Update: “A nine-year-old boy in the Netherlands is at the centre of a row between Turkey  and European countries over non-Muslims fostering Muslim children and eroding  their “moral values and religious beliefs”.

Yunus, a Dutch citizen of Turkish origin, was removed from his Turkish  parents as a four-month-old by Dutch authorities over suspicions of child abuse  and neglect. He was given to lesbian foster parents who have raised him ever  since.

Several court rulings have confirmed that Yunus’s biological parents were  unfit to care for him, a Dutch official said last week. He said the boy had not  been adopted by his foster parents.

The case has become the focal point of a campaign by the Turkish government  to prevent Muslim children of Turkish families in European countries from being  raised by non-Muslim or homosexual foster parents.

If a child is given to a homosexual family, then this runs counter to general  moral values and religious beliefs of [Turkish] society,” Recep Tayyip Erdogan  said during a visit to the Netherlands this month.

At the core of the row lies Ankara’s view that the about four million Turkish  citizens and people of Turkish descent in European countries are exposed to  threats to their cultural or religious identity – and that Turkey has the right,  and the duty, to act.

Mr Erdogan suggested that cooperation between the Turkish and Dutch  governments could prevent similar problems in the future and said Turkish  non-government organisations in the Netherlands could also help.

Mark Rutte, the Dutch prime minister, dismissed the idea of any Turkish  intervention, saying the case was a domestic issue.

Mr Erdogan’s government regards itself as responsible for the welfare of  Turks abroad, even if they have foreign passports. But this clashes with  Europeans’ view of their sovereignty and ideas of integration, as well as with  the continent’s more liberal values.

Bekir Bozdag, a Turkish deputy prime minister who oversees Turkish  expatriates, told parliament late last year that there were about 4,000 cases of  children who had been forcibly taken away from Muslim-Turkish families in Europe  and given to non-Muslim foster parents.

He suggested that religious reasons were behind the trend, but offered no  proof to back up the accusation.

“These children are really Christianised,” Mr Bozdag said. “We are faced with  a big tragedy.”

Mr Bozdag called on European countries to have Turkish children raised by  Turkish families if possible and promised that his government would do  everything to “save our little ones”.

Faruk Sen, chairman of the German-Turkish Foundation for Education and  Scientific Research and an expert on the Turkish community in western Europe,  said the Turkish government was partly to blame.

“There are 700,000 Turkish families in Germany, but not enough come forward  to take children” as foster families, Mr Sen said last week. He said Turkey’s  diplomatic missions in Europe had failed to provide authorities with lists of  potential Turkish foster parents.

Referring to local, parliamentary and presidential elections coming up next  year and in 2015, Mr Sen said efforts to please the conservative voter base of  the Erdogan government were also shaping Ankara’s position on the issue. “They  want to tell voters at home: ‘I am making sure that no Muslim child is raised by  a Christian family’.”

A lack of Muslim foster families had also been an issue in the case of Yunus  in the Netherlands, the Dutch official said.

He was initially placed in a foster home and given to the couple after a  while,” the official said. He also said that the biological parents of the boy  had tried and failed to get Yunus back through the courts.

As the case became public, the lesbian couple in the Netherlands went into  hiding with Yunus. Dutch officials said there had been no specific threats, but  the move to “another address” had been organised as a precaution.

The Turkish family has turned to the Turkish government for help. Following  Mr Erdogan’s visit to the Netherlands, Nurgul Azeroglu, Yunus’s biological  mother, praised the stance taken by Ankara.

“Our prime minister’s statement took a weight off my mind,” she told the  Turkish Cihan news agency. “Now I have new hope that I can embrace Yunus again  after nine years.”

Ms Azeroglu appeared on Turkish television this month and called on Mr  Erdogan to intervene in the case. She said she accidentally dropped the child  from a poorly fastened carrying bag once – part of the reason he was removed  from her care.

Dutch news reports said the authorities in the Netherlands decided in 2008 to  remove two of Yunus’s siblings from the Azeroglu family and place them in the  same family with the boy, but that the children had been sent to Turkey by their  family before the decision was implemented.”

Turkish child fostered by Dutch lesbians sparks diplomatic row

[The National 3/31/13 by Thomas Seibert]

12 Comments

  1. Dear Rally,
    I don ‘t think this is weirdness but an ongoing serious issue in many European countries. Children of Turkish origin and muslim parents are often fostered by non muslim foster families mainly becaue there are few Turkish families prepared to foster. At the same time the Turkish government campaigns against it and would even prefer that these children return to Turkey than being fostered by non muslims. You can imagine the reaction by conservative muslims to a Lesbian foster family. Very sad and complicated but not weird. A

    • All of the issues we cover in this column are quite serious. What is weird is that knowing Muslims disagree with this lifestyle , they placed this child with this couple. Also, that they were able to leave the country with their other 2 children leaves a lot of questions about why the child was removed to begin with and how they are allowed to freely travel elsewhere. So weird as in peculiar that this even happens. Sorry to hear that it is common to not respect religions there.

      • Rally,

        It should be noted that when a child is removed from the parents custody by the local Child Protective Services division, it’s not always possible to place them with foster parents whose religious beliefs match those of the birthparents.

        According to HuffPost, the boy’s biological mother, Nurgul Azeroglu, stated on Turkish television that her now 9-year-old son was taken into state care as an infant for reasons which included his falling from a poorly-fastened carrier. His parents left the Netherlands in 2008 to keep two other children from similarly being taken into care.

        There’s a lot we don’t know here. What were those “other reasons” Yunus was removed from his first family’s care? Were his siblings to be removed for similar reasons? Did his parents petition to gain his return prior to their flight in 2008? Were they treated fairly by the Hague Youth Services Agency and the Dutch judicial system, both in the reason for the separation and the requirements for reunification?

        Also, what have they done since arriving in Turkey in 2008 and going on a television program last month to pursue reunification with Yunus? There’s a lot of time to be accounted for here.

        And what are 9-year-old Yunus’s wishes? Has he attached to his foster parents, or does he feel alienated and out-of-place, and long for his unremembered “real” family?

        All of the forgoing are valid questions which are relevant to adoption reform. The anti- LGBT prejudices of the birthparents aren’t.

  2. The reason why children from muslim families are not placed with muslim foster families is that there aren’t many of those. How would you deal with this? And how far would you allow the biological parents to express homophobic sentiments towards the foster family? And how would you respond to a political campaign by the Turkish government tat has nothing to do with the child’s needs?

    • Sorry it has taken awhile to respond. If the country sees a mismatch with the religion of the foster child and foster families as it appears to have, then they need to have alternate means, which would likely be a group home setting that respects the religion. The update I just added said that he was in a foster home prior to being placed with this couple so there was an alternative. In the US, foster care providers must respect and have the child adhere to their religious beliefs. I do not think this couple is doing so. We do have one case in our How Could You archives from New Jersey in which a Christian couple has proselytized a Muslim child in foster care.

  3. Rally,

    Re: “…The update I just added said that he was in a foster home prior to being placed with this couple so there was an alternative…”

    The article is vague about when this took place, since it earlier said Yunus has been with this couple since infancy. And it says nothing about WHY the first placement was ended. It may have been an emergency foster care placement to begin with. Nor is it clear that this briefly-mentioned other family would have been any more satisfactory to the Turkish government or the birthparents anyway.

    Additionally, if the REAL concern is Yunus getting “Christianized” in foster care, a secular lesbian couple may have been a far more culturally-sensitive placement than an Evangelical or Catholic family who would feel obligated to “save” the boy by raising him as a Christian.

    • Yes I agree we don’t know if it was emergency placement or not. The latest article says 4000 Muslims across European countries have this issue so just like we have this same issue in the US-not enough group homes because we will never have enough individual foster homes- this needs to be considered. I don’t know the religious affiliation if any of the couple Yunus is with, but one of my concerns with the ideal of getting each child in an individual home is that that is never going to happen and there are not enough forms of alternate care (small therapeutically trained group homes) available for way that governments remove children in the first place.

  4. Rally,

    I agree that– in the U.S. at least– there is a LOT of socioeconomic bias behind Child Welfare decisions. It’s hard to get CPS to even investigate white, reasonably-affluent, church-going Christians for egregious abuse, whereas Americans of low socio-economic status have their children removed for obesity! (I just read your update on the other Russian adoptees who Diane Black couldn’t get action on for years, despite one boy having broken teeth.)

    So I’m willing to accept that Yunus’s birthparents may have been been subjected to stricter standards than white, well-to-do, native-born Dutch citizens would have been. I think this aspect of the issue should definitely be looked into.

    But I don’t think prejudice against Muslims in the EU somehow entitles them to discriminate against LGBTs in turn. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Yes, in America if a foster child is placed with a family who doesn’t share the birthparents’ religious faith, the foster parents can be required to see to it that the child attends religious services the birthparents approve, but they don’t require that the foster parents convert to the birthparents’ religion– or divorce, if according to the birthparents’ faith they shouldn’t have married each other.

    Let’s look a a parallel example. A child is removed from a white supremacist family for neglect which endangers his life, and placed with a mixed race couple. Do the birthparents have the right to demand that he be moved to a foster family which shares their beliefs, even if no such family is available?

    Is hatred disguised as religious belief entitled to state support? Does respecting the family-of-origin’s religious affiliation mandate that the government prevent a child in care from being cared for by a couple who complies with all legal standards for foster parents, but who simply by existing, shows the child that “Not everyone shares my parents’ beliefs”?

    Requiring religious attendance at worship services of the birthparents’ choice is one thing; demanding that the state censor the child’s reality to ensure that he doesn’t encounter anyone who believes differently than his birthparents is unreasonable.

    It should be noted that not all Muslims are anti-LGBT.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/progressive-muslims-launch-gay-friendly-women-led-mosques_n_1368460.html

  5. The values that are considered acceptable in US and in general in the western world are not universally shared. As a matter of fact the definition of “adoption” itself is controversial in Islamic law. http://jurist.org/forum/2012/11/faisal-kutty-adoption-kafalah.php In countries in which the large majority of population is Muslim, one of the requirements for the adoptive/foster parents is to be Muslim. http://adoptiondashboard.com/countries/country-restrictions/ Moreover only some countries in the world allow adoption by LGBT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_adoption

    • Restoftheworld,

      Re: “…In countries in which the large majority of population is Muslim, one of the requirements for the adoptive/foster parents is to be Muslim…”

      So if a child of non-Muslim parents comes into care in those countries, they’d be raised as Muslims regardless of the birthparents’ desires?

      Isn’t that a double standard? It’s wrong for Muslim kids to be brought up by non-Muslims in countries where Muslims are a minority, but in Muslim countries, it’s perfectly okay for non-Muslim children to be reared out of their faith group.

  6. Rally, what is the religion of an infant? If the religion of the parents was born again christian should that inform the decision on who should foster that child? I don’t think so.

    • It is a powerful strawman that you put up. I would guess this child had Muslim birth rites but I do not know for sure. Government shouldn’t decide what religion people should be and that includes in cases when they are the deciders of who the parents are going to be for a child. It is part of family rights and is entwined with culture in this case as well.

      Article 20 of UNCRC “Article 20 (Children deprived of family environment): Children who cannot be looked after by their own family have a right to special care and must be looked after properly, by people who respect their ethnic group, religion, culture and language” I agree with this. I don’t think this placement adhered to this which is why I think there needs to be a focus on alternate means for these 4000 Muslim children in Europe including group homes if that is all that is possible but the thought process needs to start.

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