How Could You? Hall of Shame-Australia-Karmah Jayne Hall case-Child Death
This will be an archive of heinous actions by those involved in child welfare, foster care and adoption. We forewarn you that these are deeply disturbing stories that may involve sex abuse, murder, kidnapping and other horrendous actions.
From Sydney, Australia, “Karmah Jayne Hall, 14, took her own life in September at her foster parents’ property north-west of Sydney.”
“The biological family of a teenage girl who suicided in foster care is demanding answers from authorities after learning of her death on Facebook.”
“The family said authorities failed to keep Karmah safe and had kept them in the dark about her death ever since.
They were also alarmed that her foster father had been investigated over abuse allegations made by another foster child in his care.
Karmah was removed from her birth family’s care at 11 months of age because her father was violent towards her mother, Donna Rathborne.
“They came and literally tore her out of my arms, which to this day I won’t ever forget that feeling,” Ms Rathborne said.
Ms Rathborne had access visits with her daughter over the years, but Karmah remained with the same foster family until she ended her life in a shed at their rural property in Kenthurst.”
Family demands answers after finding out about Karmah Jayne Hall’s suicide in foster care on Facebook[ABC 11/26/14 by Lorna Knowles and Alison Branley]
REFORM Puzzle Piece
Yet again: To protect Karmah from WITNESSING domestic violence, she’s taken from her mother– where she winds up in a home with a suspected abuser. And now she’s dead at age 14, from suicide.
Here’s a thought– why not offer an abused woman sanctuary WITH her children? If there’s money to pay foster parents, there’s money for that. A mother shouldn’t lose her children for the “crime” of being a victim of domestic violence. And children shouldn’t suffer the loss of connection with a non-abusive parent.
Get your facts right before you open you start giving you opinions on why my daughter Karmah Jayne was really taken into the care of the state!!! Karmah was first taken by the department of crook services is because one of her sisters decided to vent their anger at me, Mark Hall and get a group of her drugged up teenage friend and literally smash our windows of our house kick in the doors with hope of gaining access to assault me!!! She and her friends did all this domestic abuse! I called the police twice that night there is a record of it!!! and the next day some bitch from Department of Crook Services bashed on my door with two cops,pushed a paper in my chest and said “We are taking Karmah” I said I didn’t do this Donnas other daughter and friends did, this Linda from DOCs said no she didn’t and the blame was placed on me!!!!! I ran out the back with Karmah and the police literally ripped her from my arms placed her in a car and just fucken left. I ran up the driveway and up the road SCREAMING for my baby girl to be returned!!! Nothing!!! This happened on a Friday and for four whole days I had know idea, clue, or was given any help to even find out what had happened to my baby! I WAS DEVASTATED THEN. Imagine how I am now, I’m lost so very lost. Get your facts right people. Fact!!! Donna Rathbourne/Dunbar’s first four children were taken from her by DOCs years before I had met Donna years before my Iarmah Jayne was born!!! FACT!!! ITS ON GOVERNMENT PAPER!!! DAMN ALL OF YOU WHO WERE RESPOSIBLE FOR TAKING MY DAUGHTER FROM ME BLAMING ME AND DAMN ALL OF YOU WHO WERE RESPOSIBPE FOR HELPING PUT A ROPE AROUND MY BABIES NECK. DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!! MARK A H. KARM AH’s. Daddy Mark.
I was going by the information given in the article; nothing more, nothing less.
Regardless of the specifics of your case, too many kids are being taken into foster care for reasons OTHER THAN the declared mandate to protect them from actual abuse. This leads to unqualified couples being approved as foster parents on the grounds that so many are “needed” that the state can’t afford to screen out risky carers– which results in kids being MORE likely to be abused in “protective” custody than with their real families.
This is a crazy state of affairs which benefits nobody but the privatized CPS contractors who get to bill the taxpayers for every child they provide “cost effective” care for.
well it’s very simple they don’t get any money at all if they don’t remove the children from their birth family and put them in a foster home. No they’re not going to check on these kids cuz that costs money. They just have to remove them from their biological family so they collect that first payment for the year. Now that under 5 years old and they adopt them out they click thousands more. The whole reason this happens worldwide is there is not enough lead in the air.
Thank you this is my lil sis & coming up to a year now since her death & still no answers just more holes.. My family is beside themselves.. Truly devastated.. R.I.P karmah my angel fly high.xx
Hi I am Karmah’s mother Mark the speed you have been taking since before she was born must have finally fried your brain! You LOCKED HER AND ME IN THAT HOUSE WHILE YOU WENT OUT PICKING UP OTHER “WOMEN”! I HAVE WITNESS’S TO PROVE THIS! AT THE TIME OF HER REMOVAL I HAD AN AVO OUT ON YOU….BUT COPS WOULD NEVER COME….AND YOU KNEW IT!!! AS FOR MY OTHER CHILDREN BEATING YOU UP …YOU MUST BE JOKING!!! THE ELDEST WAS A 15 YR OLD GIRL WHO I AM ASHAMED TO SAY I DID NOT DEFEND WHEN YOU THREW A ROCK AT HER!!!!! I WAS SCARED BUT STILL I SHOULD HAVE STOOD UP FOR HER…..OVER YOU!!!! I NOTICED YOU DIDN’T MENTION KARMAH DIDN’T WANT CONTACT WITH YOU AT ALL FOR MORE THAN THE LAST 4 YEARS OF HER LIFE????? I ADMIT PEOPLE I SHOULD HAVE LEFT HIM SO MUCH EARLIER …..WHEN IT FIRST STARTED….OR EVEN THE NIGHT I WENT INTO LABOR WHEN YOU WERE SCREAMING AT METO GO TO F#*KING SLEEP! MY 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER CRYING TO ME “Mum , I will come with you!” Only for you to reply “Let the slut go AND SHUT THE F#*K UP! I WANT TO SLEEP!” As I was being taken in the aambulance to have YOUR FIRST CHILD! She was ALWAYS mine maybe because you wanted a son?? Or when I WALKED 5 BLOCKS 24 weeks pregnant to have the amniocentesis….. and BACK AGAIN!!! When there was a perfectly good car in the garage….and being 39 yrs old the risk of miscarriage being high???? Oh look I could go on and on…but to get away from drugs (yes I lost the plot when they took her….and thanks you YOU, MARK I lost my house which was yours….but YOU DIDN’T PAY THE RENT! So it was given to me ….but YOU trashed it …I still owe Houso $4,800 thanks alot) I came home to Lismore approx 900klms from Sydney I travelled to see my baby girl once a month for 3 years ,down and back in 1 day! It nearly killed me but I would have crawled over broken glass for her!! We would ring her brother and sisters every visit ! I carried her in my womb I gave birth I feed her at my breast She was healthy and happy I will NEVER get over loosing her…EVER! I admit I should have left….I should have stood up to you….MY FAMILY’S LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN SO DIFFERENT ! And by FAMILY Karmah’s brother and sisters refused for her to be called half or step THEY WERE FAMILY ! We her family will never get over loosing her But know this people WE LOVED HER….AND SHE LOVED US…AS FAMILY DOES! Thank you for your time xx Donna Rathborne
Oh and Mark they ripped her from MY ARMS…IDIOT! And as for the “home invasion” YOUR MOTHER GOT MY 14YEAR OLD DAUGHTER A PHONE ON A PLAN..REMEMBER?… THAT NIGHT YOU RIPPED THE PHONE OF HER AND KICKED HER OUT OF MY HOUSE ONTO THE STREETS OF TOONGABBIE HOUSO!!! I FINALLY STOOD UP TO YOU…AND IT WAS RONALD ( WHO YOU WERE BEGGING “Please don’t hit me pppllleeeaaassee!” And 2 of your “women” that did that to the house! I rang YOUR MOTHER and BEGGED her to let me and Karmah’s stay the night She said “NO!” And then YOU STARTED MAKING “BOOBY TRAPS” WITH PETROL AND KERO!!! AND IT WAS P AND P COME TO SEE YOU THE NEXT DAY THAT RANG DOCS
…YOU FUCKWIT! GOD HOW I HATE YOU! HAVE YOU TOLD EVERYONE HOW THE COURT PUT MY BABY KARMA RATHBORNE ( We weren’t married) INTO YOUR “MOTHER’S” CARE??? What did she do Mark? Come on tell us?? I WILL ! SHE HAD HER 1 NIGHT THEN RANG US ” Come and get her or I will call DOCS” WHERE DID WE TAKE HER MARK? COME ON WHERE? To MY NIECE’S PLACE AT RICHMOND that’s where ppl ! I blame myself so much for staying with such a pathetic little creep as you The one thing you did right,you wrecked! Do NOT tell me to have sympathy for him HE FEEDS ON IT PITY , SOB STORY OH KILL ME IF SOMEONE ASKS ABOUT HIS CHILDHOOD !! I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF TIP-TOEING AROUND HIM AND THE LEWIS’S ( foster pigs) who by the way Mark saw on weekends for bar-b-ques etc UNTIL HE TOOK MY GIRL FOR A DRIVE ( WITH THEIR PERMISSION???? GO FIGURE eh?) UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL AND DRUGS HE DID AN ILLEGAL U-TURN IN PARRAMATTA SO MY 3 YR OLD SITS IN A POLICE STATION ALL AFTERNOON!!!Sorry ppl I am totally loosing it here It was her birthday on 26th Saturday just gone! I wish Oh how I wish I could go back Peaceand love take care xxc